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2009-12-10 -Signs, Portents, and the Weather-

Despite Record Drought, Aussie Farmers STILL Don't Buy AGW

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Posted by Bobby 2009-12-10 06:03|| || Front Page|| [1 views ] Top

#1 Bad example, Bobby. The Dust Bowl in 1935 was probably a creature of the *actual* peak of global warming, or at least continental warming, IIRC. Wasn't there some micro-scandal when NASA/GISS under Hansen was forced to revise claims that 1998 was the warmest year ever in the continental US with a correction that, um, actually, 1935 was the hottest year on record.

Posted by Mitch H.">Mitch H. 2009-12-10 09:46|| http://blogfonte.blogspot.com/]">[http://blogfonte.blogspot.com/] 2009-12-10 09:46|| Front Page Top

#2 hugely overbuilt irrigation system will have to shrink

Which is the real problem, plus upstream dams built by Queensland. There is nothing to indicate rainfall is outside historical variability.

Brush fires killed 173 people earlier this year during the most severe heat wave in the history of southeast Australia.

Thats because people are building houses in the bush without adequate clearance around them. A problem compounded by the enviros.

I heard an interview with someone whose house survived the fires, while all his nearby neighbours were burned out. He had incurred two $10,000 fines for clearing the bush around his house.

Here in Western Australia we have far and away the largest bushfires in Australia and they don't even make the local news, because no one lives out there (in an area called the Great Southern Woodland).

Posted by phil_b 2009-12-10 10:07|| 2009-12-10 10:07|| Front Page Top

#3 Thank you phil_B for your Diggers support on the Global War on Terror. Interesting how Perfidious Albion has now become the 'prison colony' eh?

Posted by Besoeker 2009-12-10 10:14|| 2009-12-10 10:14|| Front Page Top

#4 Mitch H.: The Dust Bowl (1930-1940) would have been just a bad decade in that region, but became a major problem because of bad agricultural practices, resulting in a vast amount of topsoil being blown away.

Ironically, those farmers *outside* of the Dust Bowl region had such bumper crops that there was major overproduction right when the Great Depression deflation hit. Wheat was less than 50 cents a bushel, and corn was burned for fuel.

This is why "Ol' Frank" created the Federal Surplus Relief Corporation (FSRC), an insanely authoritarian government agency. One of their first acts was to slaughter 6 million pigs, in the very decentralized pork industry, to stabilize prices. Literally going from farm to farm, killing every pig they could catch, on the spot.

Next, they bought up vast amounts of grain to destroy, using a small percentage to feed people who were starving, but had no money. Then they put huge amounts of farmland off limits, paying farmers to *not* grow crops there.

They even went so far as to go into the homes of farmers and destroy the food they had for their own use in storage, such as canned goods. Quite literally telling them that the only food they could have was that provided by the government.

Posted by Anonymoose 2009-12-10 11:59|| 2009-12-10 11:59|| Front Page Top

#5 Mitch - I was suggesting that had the Global Warmers been around then, we would've had cap and trade by 1940. Yet, somehow, the agriculture industry in the region survived. Farming practices changed, sure, but so did the weather.

I just love the way the WaPo assumes the farmers are all morons, when the WaPo is drowning in Kool Aide.

Posted by Bobby 2009-12-10 12:36|| 2009-12-10 12:36|| Front Page Top

#6 'moose - I know, I've mentioned the great livestock slaughter elsewhere in connection with Cash for Clunkers. I'm not arguing for causation, just that the correlation makes it a weak comparative argument in this context.

And Bobby, they didn't need watermelon-style subterfuge back in the 'Thirties, because being a straight-out collectivist was expected, even fashionable. No need to hide behind scientific prattle to sell destructive collectivist command-and-control schemes.

Not that didn't stop the Commies & Lysenko around about the same time period...

Posted by Mitch H.">Mitch H. 2009-12-10 15:34|| http://blogfonte.blogspot.com/]">[http://blogfonte.blogspot.com/] 2009-12-10 15:34|| Front Page Top

#7 I just read what I wrote, and realized how foolish it was. What the hell is Marxism, but collectivism hidden behind scientific prattle about the dialectic?

Posted by Mitch H.">Mitch H. 2009-12-10 15:36|| http://blogfonte.blogspot.com/]">[http://blogfonte.blogspot.com/] 2009-12-10 15:36|| Front Page Top

#8 But we love you anyway, Mitch. ;-p

Posted by Barbara Skolaut">Barbara Skolaut 2009-12-10 15:46|| 2009-12-10 15:46|| Front Page Top

#9 So it's hot and dry on a continent famous for being hot and dry. Who could have seen that coming?

Posted by SteveS 2009-12-10 20:39|| 2009-12-10 20:39|| Front Page Top

#10 They even went so far as to go into the homes of farmers and destroy the food they had for their own use in storage, such as canned goods. Quite literally telling them that the only food they could have was that provided by the government.

How many were sot and killed by these "Homeowners", or alternately went on their job, and were never seen again?
Somebody destroys the food I need, they die.

Posted by Redneck Jim 2009-12-10 21:48|| 2009-12-10 21:48|| Front Page Top

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