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Obama Poised to Cede US Sovereignty, Claims British Lord

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Posted by Bright Pebbles 2009-10-15 14:22|| || Front Page|| [5 views ] Top

#1 Not at all surprising.

Posted by Besoeker in Duitsland 2009-10-15 14:55|| 2009-10-15 14:55|| Front Page Top

#2 Sry, link appears to be broken

Posted by GirlThursday 2009-10-15 14:59|| 2009-10-15 14:59|| Front Page Top

#3 Well I posted the right URL...
Obama Poised to Cede US Sovereignty, Claims British Lord

Posted by Bright Pebbles 2009-10-15 15:29|| 2009-10-15 15:29|| Front Page Top

#4 His analysis is wrong. In American law, the Constitution always trumps treaties. To revoke a treaty that was confirmed by the Senate would only require an Act of Congress signed by the President.

While sovereignty is a major concern going forward, this is not a "hit the fan" moment.

Posted by Maggie Ebbuter2991 2009-10-15 17:27|| 2009-10-15 17:27|| Front Page Top

#5 Maggie E, your take assumes that the Supreme Court agrees with you. There are some on the court, like Ruth Bader Ginsburg, who believe that we should take foreign law into consideration in US cases. They would be happy to cede sovereignty to Europe.

Posted by Rambler in Virginia">Rambler in Virginia 2009-10-15 18:03|| 2009-10-15 18:03|| Front Page Top

#6 Sovereignty rests SOLELY with the people. It cannot be given away, except by coup.

Posted by Bright Pebbles 2009-10-15 19:41|| 2009-10-15 19:41|| Front Page Top

#7 Such a treaty would never be ratified in the first place. We'd toss out every last congressman and Senator and they know it. That is what happened with Kyoto.

Posted by rjschwarz 2009-10-15 19:59|| 2009-10-15 19:59|| Front Page Top

#8 Given who the chief justice of the Supreme Court still is, I think Maggie Ebbuter2991 is still correct, Rambler.

Posted by trailing wife">trailing wife 2009-10-15 20:32|| 2009-10-15 20:32|| Front Page Top

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