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2009-07-12 Home Front: Politix

New Curbs Set on Arrests of Illegal Immigrants

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Posted by GolfBravoUSMC 2009-07-12 02:20|| || Front Page|| [11128 views ] Top

#1 The transformation gathering steam

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2009-07-12 03:10|| 2009-07-12 03:10|| Front Page Top

#2 Hope you like your Change.

Posted by Perfectly E. Noucuous 2009-07-12 03:41|| 2009-07-12 03:41|| Front Page Top

#3 I'm sure the
Sheriff looks for all the blond Mexicans with blue ryes he can find.

Posted by whatadeal 2009-07-12 03:59|| 2009-07-12 03:59|| Front Page Top

#4 I'm not sure which the liberals hate more, Palin or Joe.

Posted by Besoeker 2009-07-12 07:40|| 2009-07-12 07:40|| Front Page Top

#5 building the Dem voter base for 2010 and 2012

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2009-07-12 08:08|| 2009-07-12 08:08|| Front Page Top

#6 Joe's biggest fault is appealing to the "public sense of sadism", which really gets out of control in a hurry. Once individuals are classed as groups, be they "criminals" or "illegals", there are lots of people out there who have no more empathy for them than did the Nazis have for the Jews. And I mean this literally.

In some discussions about Joe's policies with "criminals", there are a disturbing number of people who are fine with advocating unbelievable abuse, be it branding, beating and torture, even the death penalty for all sorts of crimes. There is no hesitation, no equivocation, in this advocacy, only burning hatred.

It is downright creepy.

As far as illegals go, the bottom line should be to get them back to their own country, not to injure them or make them suffer. But this line gets blurred by people who blame their personal problems on illegals.

The bottom line is what Joe is doing in this case isn't too bad, usually just annoying to Hispanic citizens who get checked to see if they are citizens.

However, he tries to appeal to those who are unreasonable, by vilifying people, who while they shouldn't be here, are for the most part not offensive, or violent, or otherwise criminal.

Posted by Anonymoose 2009-07-12 10:05|| 2009-07-12 10:05|| Front Page Top

#7 Excellent comment, Moose.

Posted by Steve White 2009-07-12 10:53|| 2009-07-12 10:53|| Front Page Top

#8 Not sure about the particulars of your indictment of Arpaio, 'moose, but I'm sure there is a forest/trees problem here.

Of all the great disgraces of recent America, enshrining abitrary racial social engineering and shredding rule of law (affirmative action and all its toxic offspring) is the most offensive to basic principles and most pernicious to rule of law. The social/political phenomenon that has enabled this disgrace to occur, of course, is race-baiting and the insane presumption of racism that is allowed to be used by designated elements (defined by their position on policy issues, not THEIR race - thus Sen. Graham and Dubya briefly donned the odious cloak of race-baiters during Amnesty I).

The election of a preposterous non-entity (and bumbling amateur politician) as president of course crowned America's disgrace in this respect, and confirmed that a functioning majority had imbibed and succumbed to the race guilt/social engineering delusion.

Remember the response to the rejection by many of the truly audacious and insane provisions of Amnesty I? "We need to get the bigots out of the debate" (or words to that effect) by Graham.

I don't care if Arpaio's antics appeal to some unappealing instincts among unfashionable folk we wouldn't hand out with. They aren't a factor, racist discrimination or violence aren't a factor. Period - and anyone who thinks they are needs to get out more, or have an IQ check-up. But assuming/pretending/fearing/fantasizing that they are is the core of the race-obsessed mindset that has shredded the rule of law and made America a laughing-stock among the thoughtful. And demonizing those who have common sense and an understanding of the importance of rule of law as "bigots" is the significant factor (forest), not the antics of one sheriff that might produce stupid reaction in people are just stupid anyway (trees).

The number of people blaming illegal immigration for their problems is about 1/100,000th of those blaming evil oil corporations/"big business"/white males/"the Bush administration"/Prop. 13/CO2/rich people/etc for their problems.

Difference is, the latter group constitutes a working majority of the electorate, and their idiocy is reflected in the idiotic public square and many idiotic policies today. The former group ..... well, they have no impact or importance, as they never have.

Which is the national problem of stirring up objectionable feelings? A histrionic local law enforcement official, or a "president" who says his political opposition is sure to point out that he "doesn't look like the other guys on the dollar bills"?

Those whose delicate consciences need salve may look to the impending elevation of a racist mediocrity to the (in many respects already farcical) SCOTUS for comfort.

Posted by Verlaine 2009-07-12 12:35|| 2009-07-12 12:35|| Front Page Top

#9 Moose, I can't think of anything more corrosive to the underpinnings of the American Republic, the Rule of Law, than the continued defense of illegal immigration on "racial" grounds. Besides, last time I looked, most Mexican immigrants would be classified as "white".

Posted by rwv 2009-07-12 14:35|| 2009-07-12 14:35|| Front Page Top

#10 Obama's policy change is expected to bolster his standing with Latinos and some Democratic legislators. The administration is seeking to set the stage for a sweeping overhaul of immigration legislation that could put millions of illegal workers on the path to U.S. citizenship.

I can't stand all the pandering and the double speak. This is nothing more than Obama selling our country for votes.

However, he tries to appeal to those who are unreasonable, by vilifying people, who while they shouldn't be here, are for the most part not offensive, or violent, or otherwise criminal.

Not violent? Not criminal? Check out California's prisons some time. Ever hear of MS13? OK, so most of them don't belong to MS13. They don't need to. They are effectively seizing control of our country without violence. They have the numbers, growing numbers, which translates into votes. That's how they get politicians at the local, state and federal levels of our government pandering to them as if they are just another legitimate voting block.

Wanna know a big part of the reason for California's budget deficit? It's the money the politicians give to illegal aliens for welfare, health care and education. It also includes the cost of keeping them in prison when they become literally offensive and violent.

I don't blame the aliens. I certainly don't hate them. In fact, I rather like them. That's one reason I get particularly incensed whenever anybody tries to inject the word "race" into this issue. That is a red herring. It is a smoke screen. Race is not the issue. Profiling is NOT the issue. They're just trying to dodge the real issue which is that our border needs to be secured before we lose our country. Don't think that could happen? You may not notice it because it is happening, little by little, every day with the help of politicians like Obama.

Posted by Abu Uluque 2009-07-12 15:35|| 2009-07-12 15:35|| Front Page Top

#11 Lets be honest here...
What's the point of having a country if you don't control the borders, support the rule of law and give preference to that countries citizens?

None.

Posted by Bright Pebbles 2009-07-12 18:26|| 2009-07-12 18:26|| Front Page Top

#12 With the economy in the shit, and unemployment high, now's the time to push illegals home. But, of course, the Donks and bottom-line-only GOP'ers won't. I'll call them what they are: traitorous bastards who sell out our citizenship for their personal gain, either voters or low wages or ethnic gains. Fuck em. They ARE traitors, every time an illegal vote cancels out an American vote, and every time they vote down ID requirements to vote. If you support that, then you are a traitor too

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2009-07-12 18:39|| 2009-07-12 18:39|| Front Page Top

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