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2008-12-11 Syria-Lebanon-Iran
Obama to change US policy on Iran
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Posted by Fred 2008-12-11 00:00|| || Front Page|| [8 views ]  Top
 File under: Govt of Iran 

#1 Suckers.
Posted by newc">newc  2008-12-11 00:23||   2008-12-11 00:23|| Front Page Top

#2 A strong case can be made that Iran is a natural US ally. That Persian shiites are more likely to support such an alliance (and participate in a healthy democracy) than Arab sunni would. That emerging US ally India could play a role in closing making this happen and that a new president is a good way to justify a fresh start.

But all of this first requires the mullarchy to go away first. Unfortunately it is a near nuclear police state. A minor detail Bill misses. Gosh.
Posted by JAB 2008-12-11 00:48||   2008-12-11 00:48|| Front Page Top

#3 "Iran plays a key role in establishing peace in the region "

Kinda like arsonists play a key role in fire safety.
Posted by crosspatch 2008-12-11 02:24||   2008-12-11 02:24|| Front Page Top

#4 The region will be peaceful once it's filled with smoking radioactive holes in the ground and it's entirely likely that Iran will bring this about so ....
Posted by AzCat 2008-12-11 04:17||   2008-12-11 04:17|| Front Page Top

#5 A senior advisor to US president-elect Barack Obama says the White House's approach to Iran will undergo a 'big change' in the future.

Gonna join them in nuking Israel, Baraq Hussein?
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2008-12-11 06:38||   2008-12-11 06:38|| Front Page Top

#6  Out of the three problem countries(SA,Pak and Iran)the general population in Iran is most pro west.Somehow we need to remove the govt though-how?.In SA and Pak we have friendly govts but dangerous elements within the establishments eg ISI/military in PAK and too much religious power in SA!!!
Posted by Paul2 2008-12-11 09:13||   2008-12-11 09:13|| Front Page Top

#7 Go ahead. Reach out to them. Then when they bite your hand, bomb them.
Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2008-12-11 12:43||   2008-12-11 12:43|| Front Page Top

#8 Maybe, just maybe, BHO & Co. are saying all the "right" things so when they do the "wrong" thing (bomb Iran back to the stone age), they can say to everyone, "Look, see, we tried to negotiate, we tried to reason, but they were having none of it and that left us with no other option."

I fully realize this is more likely than not wishful thinking on my part but one can HOPE... for... CHANGE.

Although the news of Obama's promise of a "nuclear umbrella" for Israel would appear to discount the possibility he would ever attack pre-emptively, at least on its surface.
Posted by eltoroverde 2008-12-11 13:09||   2008-12-11 13:09|| Front Page Top

#9 Yeah drug production, that's the real enemy. If we don't continue locking people up for smoking spliffs then Western Civilisation™ is doomed.
Posted by Thuns Borgia2289 2008-12-11 13:19||   2008-12-11 13:19|| Front Page Top

#10 Key role in establishing peace = Get rid of Israel, then we'll have peace. Let Iran be the "big boy" in the middle east, then we'll have peace.

Gawd, the Iranians love to mess with Americans' minds.

Get rid of the nutjob Islamic hardliners in Iran, return it to the "Persians" -- then we'll have peace.
Posted by ex-lib 2008-12-11 15:05||   2008-12-11 15:05|| Front Page Top

#11 Wel-l-l, FREEREPUBLIC > OBAMA "ACCEPTS" IRAN'S NUCLEAR BOMB!?; + IRNA > OBAMA INCAPABLE OF FUNDAMENTAL CHANGE [US Middle East Foreign Policy = MORE BUSH-STYLE]???
Posted by JosephMendiola 2008-12-11 20:00||   2008-12-11 20:00|| Front Page Top

#12 * "SAVING THE JIHAD" > IMO ISLAMIST IRAN MUST DETONATE OR CONDUCT AN INDIGENS NUCBOMB TEST(S), ideally on or before Year 2010 but absolutely NLT 2012 maxima, AS THE LONGER THE LEAD TIME THE HARDER IT WILL BE FOR RADICAL ISLAM, ETC. TO DEFEAT OR DESTROY US ENTRENCHMENT.

Pragmatically, before 2010 the threat from Iran = Radical Islam to Israel stems mainly from PROXY TERROR ATTACK, ESPEC BIOWAR OR CHEMWAR. POST 2010 + INDIGENS IRANIAN NUCBOMB TESTS > ISRAELI VS. IRAN/ISLAMIST WAR- OR TERROR- MAJEURE WILL INCREASINGLY TEND TOWARDS NUCLEARIZED OR OTHER WMD-COMBIN CONFLICT, WID THE ADVANTAGE GOING TO THAT SIDE WHICH PREEMPTIVELY STRIKES FIRST

*PAN-ISLAMIST PRE-NUCLEARIZATION [2008-2010/12] > Again, IMO Iran will prefer to maintain a low-profile, which in turn means that the US may have no cause to attack Iran short of PROVING [United Nations = UNSC]]THAT IRAN PROVIDES DE FACTO COVERT SUPPORT TO VARIOUS LOCAL-REGIONAL TERROR CONTRARY TO ITS PUBLIC RHETORIC, AND THAT IN CONSEQUENCE A NUCLEARIZING IRAN CANNOT BE TRUSTED TO NOT SUPPORT OR PROMOTE NUCLEAR TERROR + NUKE-BASED NATIONAL MILITARISM.

IOW, the US will need to formally link covert Iranian policies and actions to a high-profile, severe to catastrophic TERROR EVENT = ATTACK.
IN THE ABSENCE OF THIS SAME, THE OTHER CATALYST FOR US MILACTION REMAINS THE NORTH KOREA-TAIWAN ISSUES, ESPEC NORTH KOREA VEE ITS NATION-WIDE FAMINE [UNO = over 40% of NOKOR population needs IMMEDIATE FOOD AID]??? The succession to KIM JONG-IL is uncertain, and the UNO says under 1/2 of NK is de facto starving and likely to get worse into 2009.
Posted by JosephMendiola 2008-12-11 20:31||   2008-12-11 20:31|| Front Page Top

#13 See FREEREPUBLIC > MUSLIMS VERSUS IRAN; + PAKISTANI DEFNCE FORUM > IRAN WANTS TO DEVOUR THE ENTIRE MUSLIM WORLD.
Posted by JosephMendiola 2008-12-11 23:09||   2008-12-11 23:09|| Front Page Top

#14 WAFF > US CONFIRMS IRAN BOUGHT SA-20 MISSLES [S-300PMU-1/2's], from Russia wid love.

Also from WAFF > ITS TIME TO RE-SIZE RUSSIA:OBAMA'S NEW JOB.
Posted by JosephMendiola 2008-12-11 23:11||   2008-12-11 23:11|| Front Page Top

#15 PAKISTANI DEFENCE FORUM > PAKSITAN EXPANDING ITS NUCLEAR PROGRAM - NEW PLANT PROJECT UNDERWAY COULD PRODUCE ENOUGH PLUTONIUM FOR 40-50 BOMBS A YEAR. Could spark a REGIONAL NUCLEAR RACE, espec wid INDIA; + US URGES PAKISTAN NOT TO USE NEW REACTOR FOR WEAPONS [read, IRAN + NUC TERROR].

* SAME > PAKISTANI NUCLEAR SCIENTIST [AQ Khan] SAYS HE OBTAINED PARTS IN JAPAN.
Posted by JosephMendiola 2008-12-11 23:25||   2008-12-11 23:25|| Front Page Top

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