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2008-11-11 -Signs, Portents, and the Weather-

NASA Using Bad Data To Make Russia Look Hot

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Posted by Anonymoose 2008-11-11 12:29|| || Front Page|| [11136 views ] Top

#1 The data will be modified to fit their conclusions.

Posted by DarthVader 2008-11-11 13:00|| 2008-11-11 13:00|| Front Page Top

#2 I dunno, Russia never looked very hot to me...after a coupla beers, tho.....maybe.

Posted by Uncle Phester 2008-11-11 13:06|| 2008-11-11 13:06|| Front Page Top

#3 In any event, we here at Climate Audit are always eager to assist NASA. On earlier occasions, we helped identify the lost city of Wellington, New Zealand, where NASA has been unable to locate climate records for nearly 30 years

Heh.

Posted by Grenter, Protector of the Geats 2008-11-11 15:44|| 2008-11-11 15:44|| Front Page Top

#4 LOL fester.....cool but n a hot Russ way

Posted by .5mt 2008-11-11 15:50|| www.cybernations.net]">[www.cybernations.net] 2008-11-11 15:50|| Front Page Top

#5 Probably not a NASA problem initially, they probably have a MOU with Russia to accept certain data files.

Its unfortunate that NASA doesn't have good automatic logic checks. Its more unfortunate that aren't the only ones.

Posted by mhw 2008-11-11 16:42|| 2008-11-11 16:42|| Front Page Top

#6 The climate is in a cooling trend, which puts the heat on warmists like NASA. They were probably so excited about the October results they posted them immediately to shut the deniers up.

Posted by DoDo 2008-11-11 18:02|| 2008-11-11 18:02|| Front Page Top

#7 "are you denying our figures? Raaascisst!"

/coming response to all criticism

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2008-11-11 18:10|| 2008-11-11 18:10|| Front Page Top

#8 Some of those Russian women on the pron sites look pretty hot. Is that where NASA gets its data?

Posted by Glenmore">Glenmore 2008-11-11 19:30|| 2008-11-11 19:30|| Front Page Top

#9 It wasn't NASA's fault that the data were wrong. It is NASA's fault, though, that they didn't catch such a glaring anomaly and look into it before they published their graph showing this October to be the hottest month in eleventy billion years.

The data are provided by NOAA. NOAA's raw data files are good, they don't have any errors in the daily temperatures. The data are then fed into a program that calculates a monthly mean for each station. Somehow during that process, some stations retained their September values for October. NOAA didn't catch it, I am guessing because they hadn't tried to use that data for anything yet.

Hansen, over at NASA, grabbed that bad data and fed it into his temperature adjuster. Out popped "unprecedented" October warming and he ran with it posting the graphics and the data on the website (with a measure of glee, probably).

It isn't just Russian temperatures that this happened to. Some areas of Eastern Europe and Ireland also saw September values where there should have been October values.

What is surprising is that he wouldn't have said to himself "hmm, something must be wrong here". Since the data validated his belief that we are going to burn ourselves up with CO2 (notwithstanding the fact that there hasn't been any recorded warming in 10 years) they published it.

They have since taken the data off the site but the graphics remain. It will be interesting to see how many newspapers carry the story of how hot October was.

Posted by crosspatch 2008-11-11 22:12|| 2008-11-11 22:12|| Front Page Top

#10 REDDIT > NATIONALGEOGRAPHIC = THE END OF NIGHT?; versus BIBLE's "END OF DAYS" + FATIMA'S
"DANCE/MIRACLE OF THE SUN" [Earth knocked out of normal orbit away from Sun]???

Posted by JosephMendiola 2008-11-11 22:40|| 2008-11-11 22:40|| Front Page Top

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