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2008-09-04 Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia

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Posted by Flaique Slomoper5755 2008-09-04 12:43|| || Front Page|| [5 views ] Top

#1 As I recall the "Cold War" was a time of unparalled growth, new electronics every other day (It seemed) and prosperity.

I vote YES for "Cold War II. We badly need another growth spurt.

Posted by Redneck Jim">Redneck Jim 2008-09-04 13:26|| 2008-09-04 13:26|| Front Page Top

#2 Well goodness. It seems I should crawl into a hole, pull it in after me, and hope nobody sees the lump I make under the rug. Vice president of the Toledo International Center for Peace in Spain? The kind of authority born to be believed!

Posted by trailing wife ">trailing wife 2008-09-04 13:27|| 2008-09-04 13:27|| Front Page Top

#3 "Who wants Cold War II?"

I'll take Cold War II over WW Hot War III.

Posted by Barbara Skolaut">Barbara Skolaut 2008-09-04 13:32|| http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/]">[http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/] 2008-09-04 13:32|| Front Page Top

#4 What Barbara said. Better a few generations of regional proxy wars than a few years of the global kind.

Posted by AzCat 2008-09-04 13:38|| 2008-09-04 13:38|| Front Page Top

#5 And if it comes to war, the Euros should welcome another Cold War - considering where the last two hot wars were fought.

Do they honestly think it would be any different this time? Do they think the Russians would cross the Bering Straight or something?

Posted by Barbara Skolaut">Barbara Skolaut 2008-09-04 13:44|| http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/]">[http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/] 2008-09-04 13:44|| Front Page Top

#6 Not only did Russian intelligence fail to catch the coming Georgian attack on South Ossetia

Maybe my memory is faulty here, but I seem to recall reports that said 'not exactly'.

Posted by Pappy 2008-09-04 14:55|| 2008-09-04 14:55|| Front Page Top

#7 Old military technology? Not anymore. Russian blogs are reporting that Russian troops captured the most sophisticated American and Israeli technology, during the intervention. And who started that war? The 9 Monitors of the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE) will be issuing their report shortly. Der Spiegel claims they will blame Georgia.

Posted by Regional Peace 2008-09-04 16:28|| 2008-09-04 16:28|| Front Page Top

#8 Of course they'll blame Georgia, they can't very well blame their Russian overlords now can they?

Posted by AzCat 2008-09-04 17:36|| 2008-09-04 17:36|| Front Page Top

#9 The OSCE is nobody's puppet. President Bush will take notice of their report. Captured infantry from Georgia's Telavi Barracks have admitted that the infiltration to the zone from where Saakashvili ordered a 6.5 hour barrage, began while he was on state television offering autonomy to South Ossetia. Within 10 hours half of SO's population was in exile. We don't need to lie to support peace and security.

Posted by Regional Peace 2008-09-04 18:27|| 2008-09-04 18:27|| Front Page Top

#10 So you do it gratuitously? tsk tsk

Posted by lotp 2008-09-04 18:51|| 2008-09-04 18:51|| Front Page Top

#11 Who wants Cold War II?

Just remember the words of Captain John Parker uttered on the morning of April 19, 1775. Tradition reports his order at Lexington Green to be "Stand your ground. Don't fire unless fired upon, but if they mean to have a war, let it begin here."

Posted by Procopius2k 2008-09-04 20:40|| 2008-09-04 20:40|| Front Page Top

#12 the unilateral use of force and by invading a US ally -- which even the Soviet Union never dared --

Nah - they just invaded themselves in 56 and 68.

Posted by anonymous2u 2008-09-04 20:54|| 2008-09-04 20:54|| Front Page Top

#13 INTERFAX > IRAN PROTESTS LAYING OF PIPLEINES ACROSS THE CASPIAN SEA. This is more MSM-NET evidence that ANTI-US/NATO ANGRY RUSSIA IS COVERTLY MORE SCARED OF NUCLEAR IRAN/ISLAMISM [Center of Russia], + ACTUALLY DESIRES THE US-NATO/EU TO SET UP VIABLE MIL PRESENCE ALL OVER ITS PERIPHERY.

RUSSIA > "D *** NG IT, IFF THE US-NATO/EU WON'T HELP ME PROTECT MYSELF AGZ MY OWN ANTI-US ALLY NUCLEAR IRAN/ISLAM, I'LL NUKE THE WORLD, D *** YOU, INTO GLOW-IN-THE-DARK SMITHEREENIES, AND DON'T YOUSE ever Ever EVER E-V-E-R EEEVVVVEEEEERRRRRR EVVVVAAAAHHHHH FORGET WHAT I NEVER TOLD YOU"!

2008-2012 [2016] > SITZKRIEG??? IMO IRAN will be "pushing the envelope" agz the US + ISRAEL iff it fails to unilater conduct a formal nuke test(s).

9-11/WOT > RADICAL ISLAM = IRAN IS WAGING ITS JIHAD TO VALIDATE ITSELF, PRECLUDE USSR-STYLE IMPLOSION, + TRANSFORM INTO A PAN-DIMENSIONAL GLOBAL FORCE ON PAR [iff not SUPERIOR] VV US-WEST + JUDEO-CHRISTIANITY, NOT TO REMAIN IN MINOR/LESSOR STATUS.

RADICAL ISLAM > IS NOT ABSOLUT DEFEATED, BUT NEITHER HAS IT ACHIEVED PARITY = SUPERIORITY EITHER.

*AN "ANGRY RUSSIA" IS AS MUCH A PROB FOR NUKE-+ OWG CALIPHATE-AMBITIOUS RADICAL ISLAM AS FOR THE US-ALLIES.

It again shows why, despite any rhetoric to the contray, NO CAMP OR SIDE DESIRES "ARMISTICE",
"STATUS QUO", "DETENTE" OR "MUTUAL CO-EXISTENCE", ETC. UNLESS I'VE MISSED SOMETHING, RADICAL ISLAM WILL NOT ACCEPT BEING SECOND-TIER TO THE US-ALLIES NOR RUSSIA NOR ANY "MODERATE" = "NON-ALIGNED" POWERS.

On another note, BOTH THE US + RUSSIA, etc. HAVE PROCLAIMED THERE CAN BE "NO RETURN TO THE COLD WAR" [BIPOLAR NUC DETENTE + CO-EXISTENCE + MAD] - what more a return to a COLD WAR II or even III???

IOW, there can be no "COLD WAR II" BECUZ THE US-ALLIES, ANGRY RUSSIA, + RADICAL ISLAM DON'T WANT ONE!

Posted by JosephMendiola 2008-09-04 22:50|| 2008-09-04 22:50|| Front Page Top

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