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2008-04-30 India-Pakistan

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Posted by john frum 2008-04-30 00:00|| || Front Page|| [12 views ] Top

#1 IIRC > LUCIANNE? - WAS JESUS CHRIST A HINDU/BUDDHIST??? Pre-Ministry JESUS OF NAZARETH may had been a Student-Scholar-Master of Asian Philosophies as per Israel being a normal part of ancient Trade, Travel routes [ e.g. SILK ROADS] to and from Asia by various differentiated Religious Scholars-Perts???

Posted by JosephMendiola 2008-04-30 00:21|| 2008-04-30 00:21|| Front Page Top

#2 For a comparison, here is what Hindus (well, one of them) think vis-a-vis Yuropeons, but it touches some aspects of the above PotEoH:

As a Hindu from India, the Westerners should appreciate the difficulties in managing 200 million muslims amongst us for over 1000 years. We have managed them and here are a few suggestions:
> Go back to Christianity and the Church. It is a good religion and it is worth defending. Defending Christianity is better slogan than defending an abstract like freedom of speech, democracy etc.
> Throw out the socialist scoundrels from politics and the left lunatics from the academics
> Force the Conservative Party to become Christianity supporting party; it is unlikely that the Church will exert any undue influence in the government and it is a an issue that can be remedied.
> Scrap the welfare pay outs except for the aged. Welfare only encourages the unproductives and undesirables.
> Make extradition easy and it should be for the entire family; the convict will be jailed say for a period of five years but the family will be thrown out immediately on conviction
> Influence the judiciary, by fair and foul means, to give tougher decisions. Establish fruitful liaison between the police and the judiciary.
> The police force should be brainwashed against muslims and should use violent methods to control. In India the police does and people brush aside the resultant Islamic jingoism.
> The Conservative party should accept national security as the main plank
> Re-install death penalty
> Once in five years there should be riots in which thousands of muslims will be killed. Sounds barbaric; the alternative is being consumed by barbarism. In India we retaliate and it is called constructive response.
> Separate them physically in secluded areas; that is better than to permit them to live in all areas, which they will contaminate. They will never assimilate and do not attempt at it. This will come in handy at the time of riots.
> Stop muslim immigration and substitute with Hindu labour; they are law abiding and will integrate admirably well. Hindus are the second richest and most highly educated minority in USA. There is a not a single case of a Hindu being profiled for wrong reasons.
> Teach the children to hate the muslims; they any way are doing the same thing.
> Consign all the human rights characters to Saudi Arabia, that is the place where they should practice their profession; tell them human lives are more important than human rights
> Get out of EU and preserve your right to protect your country and its culture. Earlier you had a country and culture to be proud of and now EU has converted the countries into anonymous entities
> In India we have a main stream political party for protecting the majority rights; create a similar one, since otherwise the secular fanatics will abandon the majority.

Constructive response, eh?

Posted by twobyfour 2008-04-30 02:39|| 2008-04-30 02:39|| Front Page Top

#3 Just change the Muslims to Journalists and Lawyers and I am all for it.

Posted by Sock Puppet of Doom 2008-04-30 03:56|| 2008-04-30 03:56|| Front Page Top

#4 Vow, the paks really are a subtil lot, aren't they?!

Posted by anonymous5089 2008-04-30 06:09|| 2008-04-30 06:09|| Front Page Top

#5 Time to get a statue of Ram for my office.

Posted by Excalibur 2008-04-30 06:09|| 2008-04-30 06:09|| Front Page Top

#6 And this was published in an English language newspaper - by and for the "westernized" Pakistani elite.

Posted by john frum 2008-04-30 06:26|| 2008-04-30 06:26|| Front Page Top

#7 authored by Dr R Singh
Sounds like a Sikh name to me.

Posted by Spot">Spot 2008-04-30 08:12|| 2008-04-30 08:12|| Front Page Top

#8 Forget it, Jake. It's Pakistan...

Posted by tu3031 2008-04-30 08:44|| 2008-04-30 08:44|| Front Page Top

#9 Yet more evidence that the ISI is the modern Okhrana.

Posted by Mitch H.">Mitch H. 2008-04-30 08:56|| http://blogfonte.blogspot.com/]">[http://blogfonte.blogspot.com/] 2008-04-30 08:56|| Front Page Top

#10 Anybody remember the Moguls?

Them Hindoos hold a grudge, you betcha.

Posted by mojo">mojo 2008-04-30 11:23|| 2008-04-30 11:23|| Front Page Top

#11 12. Wear a black string around your wrist.

Dr. Ra'ad Aman is clearly an intellectual of the first water.

Given the ties between the ISI, the madrassahs, and the jihadi groups, this sounds like a one for one substitution of Hindu for Pakastanism. But the ignorant Muslims of the world will believe it without question, just as they believe every word of that notorious forgery The Protocols of the Elders of Zion. Uneasy lie the heads against which the world plots, I s'pose.

Posted by trailing wife ">trailing wife 2008-04-30 12:42|| 2008-04-30 12:42|| Front Page Top

#12 Some doc musta screamed "Om" in Rage Boys ear. For hours and hours and hours...

Posted by tu3031 2008-04-30 14:33|| 2008-04-30 14:33|| Front Page Top

#13 Twobyfour,

As someone who lived in Asia for a number of years, I wouldn't be surprised if this was valid. My experience was that, in private, Asians were brutally honest and cut very quickly to the economic and political chase.

Muslims ARE a problem and Hindus have more cause than most to know just how bad of a problem they are. Hindus have no illusions about living in equality, peace and prosperity alongside Muslims; they know that if Muslims aren't kept firmly in control they will destroy the country and turn it into another failed entity like Pakistan.

This just looks like a very logical, if completely politically incorrect, description of some necessary steps to insure Muslim submission to the majority's wishes. I wish that in the U.S. we paid a bit more attention to what the majority wants rather than constantly bending over backwards to accommodate screaming (and often violent) minorities.

Posted by Thaimble Scourge of the Pixies4707 2008-04-30 16:54|| 2008-04-30 16:54|| Front Page Top

#14 Thaimble Scourge of the Pixies4707, I don't have much beef with what he said.

Defending Christianity is better slogan than defending an abstract like freedom of speech, democracy etc.

I disagree here as the abstracts like freedom of speech, democracy are a part and parcel of judeo-christian philosophical heritage. Can't separate them.

Influence the judiciary, by fair and foul means, to give tougher decisions. Establish fruitful liaison between the police and the judiciary.

Probably very pragmatic approach, but not sure these foul means would be appropriate. Works mayhaps ok in semi-tribal society, but may be somewhat detrimental to western one.

Stop muslim immigration and substitute with Hindu labour

A shameless plug? ;-)

Also, I have a problem with Hindu treatment of Dalits, who by a coincidence are converting to christianity in droves. Actually, no coincidence, Dalits see christianity as a great status equalizer. It raises a degree of animosity from Hindu side towards christianity--"how dare them Dalits to escape their place in society?" kind of thing.

Granted, this particular Hindu may be westernized to a great degree and probably does not see it that way. I visited some Hindu forums and you can find bigots in droves there, though.

Posted by twobyfour 2008-04-30 22:31|| 2008-04-30 22:31|| Front Page Top

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