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2008-04-02 Home Front: WoT
U.S. government waives obstacles to border fence
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Posted by Fred 2008-04-02 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11135 views ]  Top

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Posted by gorb 2008-04-02 00:45||   2008-04-02 00:45|| Front Page Top

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Posted by gorb 2008-04-02 00:47||   2008-04-02 00:47|| Front Page Top

#3 No illegals, no burritos

I can pick up a Mexican cookbook at the library, or I can buy one at Half Price Books for about $6.00+tax. Or I can switch to Kentucky Fried Chicken. Where's the threat?
Posted by trailing wife ">trailing wife  2008-04-02 08:16||   2008-04-02 08:16|| Front Page Top

#4 Bush can read the papers as well as anyone else. If McCain gets the job, his work in the ME will be sustained. If he isn't, then it's all down the drain. The one thing he does know from the hurt'n he took on his amnesty program is that there is power out there that can make or break the McCain bid. If this is true, then its political show, but its show that has to be done before election day and substantial enough to convince people to not sit out the vote.
Posted by Procopius2k 2008-04-02 08:56||   2008-04-02 08:56|| Front Page Top

#5 Proc...

Absolutely spot on.

McCain has 2 HUGE things that give any conservative pause: his softness on amnesty and border security, and his addleminded stupidity in believing the global warming hoax.

The third woudl be campaign finance reform, the McCain Feingold bill that basically unleashed dirty Dem 527's to run anonymous smear ads without any repercussions. They have already started here in Colorado with the "Boulder Millionaire Gay Club" of scuzzbag rabid homosexual far-leftists activist Jerod Polis and his cabal being behind almost all of it.
Posted by OldSpook 2008-04-02 11:19||   2008-04-02 11:19|| Front Page Top

#6 My fear is they'll build a fence and then say "OK, we built the fence. Now we can give amnesty to the 12-30 million illegals already here." Then they will have to be spanked again.

If they had started mass deportations and a Real ID eight years ago I might be able to trust them but this is too little and too late.
Posted by Abu Uluque (aka Ebbang Uluque6305) 2008-04-02 11:43||   2008-04-02 11:43|| Front Page Top

#7 Mass deportations are not needed or tactically wise - targeted raids and deportations (targeted in terms of geography and type of enterprise), adequately publicized, would be better. This, combined with application of Real ID in all federral govt. entities, contractors - and hopefully in states on a similar basis, with all entities receiving taxpayer funds - along with a border barrier (even one that covered most if not all of the border) would probably produce dramatic results.

The most important result would be repair to the tattered state of the rule of law. All the desirable effects flow from this - just as the undesirable effects of the current situation flow from the collapse of the rule of law in this area.

Short term impacts would include higher wages in the unskilled sector (thus some higher prices), reduced unemployment among the unskilled citizenry, reduced burdens on social services, health care, and police/justice systems. Longer term impacts would include an accelerated pace of change in Mexico, whose social/economic pathologies are the real enemy.

Sadly, barring a conversion of the sort unprecedented in recorded human political history, it's hard to see McCain leading this sort of easy, sensible, high-impact effort.
Posted by Verlaine 2008-04-02 12:54||   2008-04-02 12:54|| Front Page Top

#8 McCain has 2 HUGE things that give any conservative pause: his softness on amnesty and border security, and his addleminded stupidity in believing the global warming hoax.

Ya gotta give the liberals something or they'll vote for Obama. Besides, global warming is going by the wayside. That leaves amnesty as the main obstacle to conservative support. Given the candidate choice, it seems to me to be a wise tradeoff for McCain, who needs a better showing among centrist ranks to assure a win for this election.

IIRC: McCain has gone to school by watching W, who got the crap kicked out of the Republican party for resisting the fence. So now McCain says he's for the fence. I'm not sure what his power base would look like if he reversed direction on that, but I think he'd lose more Republican support than the Democratic support he would pick up. To me, amnesty rides on the fence's coattails, but he's not going to say that until after he's in office. I hope.

Am I full of it? :-)
Posted by gorb 2008-04-02 16:03||   2008-04-02 16:03|| Front Page Top

#9 gorb, I think you're right.

But perception is a funny thing. According to polls, a large chunk of McCain's voters think he is "tough" on immigration, yet the liberals (and Hispanics) view him as "easy" on immigration (thanks to the MSM's slanted coverage of the immigration fight last year).

Dunno how long he gets to have it both ways, but its kinda weird seeing a Republican get the benefit of slanted MSM coverage.
Posted by OldSpook 2008-04-02 17:06||   2008-04-02 17:06|| Front Page Top

#10 Of the three Democrats up for election McCain is by far the best, he's the only one serious on the war and he seems to be budget conscious. I can live with that.
Posted by rjschwarz 2008-04-02 20:06||   2008-04-02 20:06|| Front Page Top

#11 Lots of good comments in this thread, but the first one is too funny (second comes pretty close). "SQUEE!" indeed! LOL

On the other hand, now the Peanuts theme will probably continue playing in my mind for the rest of the day.
Posted by ryuge 2008-04-02 22:28||   2008-04-02 22:28|| Front Page Top

#12 btw - the family that runs the delicious taquieria ("Los Nachos") a block from my house are all legals, with the kids born/raised here, so Mr. Sombrero can pound sand on his way OUT. Try the #4 combo :-)
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2008-04-02 22:33||   2008-04-02 22:33|| Front Page Top

#13 Lucky you, Frank! ;-)
Posted by gorb 2008-04-02 23:23||   2008-04-02 23:23|| Front Page Top

#14 FREEREPUBLIC/LUCIANNE/TOPIX > USA: MORE DRONES TO FLY OVER TEXAS, SOUTH BORDERS.

Oh the fear instilled in dedic illegals from having their pics taken from something flying overhead and not shooting at them.

REDDIT/TOPIX > VARIOUS > TOP US GENERALS:DRAFT ARMY OR MAKE CHANGES TO SUPPORT FOREIGN POLICIES.

*OTOH, RIAN > ROBOT ARMIES - THE NEXT MILITARY REVOLUTION? The coming Organized RoboWarfare - Russia must not delay or fall behind in R&D RoboWar developments lest it forget the lessons of Barbarossa = 1941 to its detriment???

Posted by JosephMendiola 2008-04-02 23:42||   2008-04-02 23:42|| Front Page Top

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