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Obama Disagrees With Pastor's 'God Damn America' Sermon

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Posted by Fred 2008-03-15 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11125 views ] Top

#1 When cooked without sauce,over time, teflon peels.

November minus March =

Posted by swksvolFF 2008-03-15 00:58|| 2008-03-15 00:58|| Front Page Top

#2 Not a good enough answer.

Posted by 3dc 2008-03-15 01:01|| 2008-03-15 01:01|| Front Page Top

#3 October 2003 Rev. Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright, Jr. Obama's Pastor:
In the 21st century, white America got a wake-up call after 9/11/01. White America and the Western world came to realize that people of color had not gone away, faded into the woodwork or just disappeared as the Great White West kept on its merry way of ignoring Black concerns.

Obama has had 4 1/2 years to denounce the Reverends celebration of this mass murder of Americans. Instead Obama has for 23 years been so steeped in the black supremest racist ideology of the Trinity United Church of Christ that he has devoted this time and vast sums of money to advancing this racist agenda while hiding behind the skirts of liberal white and Jewish guilt. Only when threatened with losing his goal of the most powerful office in the world does he make the faintest protestations. But have no fear, Mama Michelle will slap Barack back onto the One True Path.

Posted by ed 2008-03-15 01:56|| 2008-03-15 01:56|| Front Page Top

#4 Obama says he only recently became aware of his pastor's controversial comments.

Truth? I think not.

Posted by ClemScheck 2008-03-15 03:09|| 2008-03-15 03:09|| Front Page Top

#5 What a morally bankrupt weasel. It is like saying I disagree with Hitler and Stalin. And there is no cherry-picking; the book section of the Trinity United website openly promotes "Afrocentrism." Wait until the GOP opens the "reparations" gate, after the Dems self-destruct.

The Left is over-playing McCain's contacts with Holy Roller, Rod Parsley. Do they think that McCain has never accessed Youtube? I think that Rev Parsley is a nut-bar, but he appeals to a lot of African-Americans. That would scare Obama.

Posted by McZoid 2008-03-15 07:30|| 2008-03-15 07:30|| Front Page Top

#6 There are PLENTY of racist blacks out there. Pastor Wright is just one of many.

Shelby Steele says whites are rapidly losing any residual guilt they might have had about the past concerning blacks. The rest of the country's ethnic groups, particularly hispanics, never had any to start with. When the cloak of PC finally gets ripped asunder and people start publicly saying what they've long been privately thinking, there's going to be one hell of a row and probably a not inconsequential number of violent incidents.

To be perfectly honest, I'm not sure that's a bad thing. You can't fix a problem until you openly admit what the problem is and examine it closely. Race relations in the U.S. need honest reassessment more than any other part of our national fabric. Allan Bloom's The Closing of the American Mind does an excellent job of explaining how America arrived at the currently poisoned state of affairs between blacks and everyone else. He didn't see any easy answers.

That's probably because there aren't any. However, the state of affairs we currently have where the black 15% of the population commits 53% of the violent crime (not to mention a vastly disproportionate amount of the non-violent crime) can't continue.

Blacks right now have it both ways: when there are benefits to being black, as in affirmative action, they're happy to be part of the black group. When it's not a benefit, as in being considered part of that group that commits the majority of violent crime in America, they want to be judged as individuals apart from the group. Affirmative action was a poisoned apple to start with and its perniciousness has only gotten worse with time.

I agree with Steele; I think the patience is running out and that we're going to have some very blunt assessments of the black community out in the public fora that won't be deflected by accusations of racism. Truth is a winning defense against charges of libel.

Don't be surprised when you hear them coming from East Asians and hispanics, either. The Dem primary results are showing there's no love lost between blacks and hispanics, and I've never seen a white American yet who held blacks in as low esteem as most of the Koreans I know.

I don't think Obama's got a chance in the general. As I despise the Dems, however, I'm almost tempted to wish he would win. I think he'd be such an abject failure that even the ridiculously stupid lot of Republicans we have in office now would look like Einsteins by comparison. It took two years of Clinton's left-wing liberal idiocy to get the Republican majorities of 1994. It might take two more years of egregious Dem mismanagement to bring the Repubs back for another decade.

Posted by Pancho Elmeck8414 2008-03-15 08:59|| 2008-03-15 08:59|| Front Page Top

#7 you can understand where Michelle Obama got her hating Amerikkka groove on, though. I suspect he "obviously disagreed" with her too? Or was he "unaware" of that for the last 20+ years too?

After watching some of the video clips, the Rev Wright just f*cked Obama's chances methinks

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2008-03-15 09:01|| 2008-03-15 09:01|| Front Page Top

#8 If this is your "spiritual" guide week after week, I assure you Obama, Jesus will have nothing to do with it. OR You.

Posted by newc">newc 2008-03-15 09:14|| 2008-03-15 09:14|| Front Page Top

#9 So like Slick Willie, he 'never inhaled' the sermons?

Posted by Bobby 2008-03-15 09:24|| 2008-03-15 09:24|| Front Page Top

#10 Yo baby, do't you listen to that smack. I'm your man. Yeah, so way back when I used to hang with Shifty back in the hood, but man, he's just strutten, nothing real, its just the show. We go way back but its nothing. Come on, you know you want to be with me. Looky here. I got the threads, the class that everyone and your posse are just jealous of . They'll be talking down cause they know its just you and me. I can make your future. Be my number one priority in life. Don't mind those wannabe number nines. This is the real thing babe, honest.

Posted by B D Hustler 2008-03-15 11:36|| 2008-03-15 11:36|| Front Page Top

#11 Sniff do I detect the first sharp tang of flop sweat wafting from BO?

Posted by regular joe 2008-03-15 11:59|| 2008-03-15 11:59|| Front Page Top

#12 Why am I thinking about Abu Mazen condemning terrorist attacks---surely there cannot be any logical connection?

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2008-03-15 12:35|| 2008-03-15 12:35|| Front Page Top

#13 Obama is on record saying he was never in attendance when his pastor made any of these 'controversial' statements.

A Newsmax representative has just gone on FoxNews to say they will run a story on Monday with proof that he is lying about that.

Amen and pass the popcorn!

Posted by ClemScheck 2008-03-15 14:07|| 2008-03-15 14:07|| Front Page Top

#14 Here's another little nugget about Big Mama Obama: She already had a cushy position with a hospital at $100K/yr, but when Barry got tapped by The Machine to go for US Senate in fall of 2003, her pay went from $100K to $325K. Damn, not bad for a merit promotion. Most of the rest of us were stumbling around with 3-4%. She must be realy, ree-aaly good at sumthin'!

Posted by Woozle Elmeter 2700 2008-03-15 14:39|| 2008-03-15 14:39|| Front Page Top

#15 It's really too bad. I dislike Hillary so much I wanted to believe Obama was different. Liberal, but honorable. It appears he is pulling a Roger Clemens.

I would say his candidacy is in real trouble right now. If there is absolute, incontrovertible evidence that he attended one of those "black-KKK" sermons he is done.

Posted by anymouse">anymouse 2008-03-15 14:57|| 2008-03-15 14:57|| Front Page Top

#16 Sen. Barack Obama says he "obviously disagrees" with his pastor of 20 years who said black Americans should sing "God Damn America" instead of "God Bless America."
What were you doing, sleeping in Church? If you were awake, did you hold your hand over your heart or just grab your cockles?

Hows that story your wife wrote coming along?

Audacity of Hope, what does that mean anyways? (Like something I'd read from Foucault's Pendulum). I watched the sermon, continue the lyrics..land that I _________.

OK, y'all, Ima gonna dig up ye ol time capsule so we remember what 'hope' means. -Hope- an exostential ideal, an idea that if one believes true enough then it will happen. What is belief, a feeling that there is something greater than oneself..and what is that? Spirituality. An understanding that He has a plan and that it will all work out in the end according to His plan.

That 'sermon' is not hope it is blame, it is hate. The very place where you can stand out in the open and proclaim this dribble is the very place where you can stand up and spew, thus disproving the very point.

A bartender said it best - "Why do people hate America? Because it is the best goddamn country in the world and people know it."

Posted by swksvolFF 2008-03-15 15:13|| 2008-03-15 15:13|| Front Page Top

#17 Obambi and Omamma are now unelectable. Rev. Wright's sermons encapsulate what so many people hate about the loony left and about Afrocentrism.

Obama doesn't really disagree with the Rev.'s positions. He wants to talk to all of our enemies. He wants to transfer American's wealth to Third World $hit holes. He wants to cut the military, slow weapons development, eliminate nuclear weapons... Socialize healthcare and who knows what else. The public will begin to match his programs with Wright's sermons, and game over.

Pancho Elmeck8414 might be correct: that the dialog that has been suppressed by PC for so long will finally commence. I think it is more likely that people will say nothing. They might even say to pollsters that they will vote for Obama, but will pull the lever for someone else. This is the beauty of the secret ballot.

BTW I wonder who released the videos to the net?

Posted by SR-71 2008-03-15 15:30|| 2008-03-15 15:30|| Front Page Top

#18 Someone deeply connected to the DNC or the Clintons released those videos - at the perfect time to start chipping away at the super delegates and others worried about a brokered convention. The more this issue gets airplay, the more cover for the super delegates and others to do a deal at the convention for Hillary.

Posted by Shieldwolf 2008-03-15 18:37|| 2008-03-15 18:37|| Front Page Top

#19 Michelle O'Bama (in early honor of St. Pat's day) is being kept under heavy wraps, a la Bill Clinton, and you know the campaign managers live in constant fear that she'll say something stoopid like "Pastor Wright was right, and you just disagree because you're white". God, I hope she slips her bonds and ball gag and starts speaking her mind ....

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2008-03-15 18:47|| 2008-03-15 18:47|| Front Page Top

#20 Why does Hillary's Personal Destruction Team[tm] remind me of the Wrath of Khan;

Khan: From hell's heart, I stab at thee. For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee

Please, pass the popcorn.

Posted by Procopius2k 2008-03-15 19:03|| 2008-03-15 19:03|| Front Page Top

#21 #13 ClemScheck - Extra butter, or perhaps a sprinkling of parmesan?

Looks like I'd better double my popcorn order :-D

Posted by Barbara Skolaut">Barbara Skolaut 2008-03-15 19:26|| http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/]">[http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/] 2008-03-15 19:26|| Front Page Top

#22 Oops, didn't see ya' there, #20 p2k.

Here, have an extra-large. ;-p

Posted by Barbara Skolaut">Barbara Skolaut 2008-03-15 19:30|| http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/]">[http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/] 2008-03-15 19:30|| Front Page Top

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