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2008-03-04 Israel-Palestine-Jordan

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Posted by ed 2008-03-04 16:47|| || Front Page|| [5 views ] Top

#1 Enough of the human shields. Any bunnies lost? Baby rabbits?

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2008-03-04 18:01|| 2008-03-04 18:01|| Front Page Top

#2 Holding a baby in front of their bodies is a violation of the Geneva accords.

Posted by 3dc 2008-03-04 18:23|| 2008-03-04 18:23|| Front Page Top

#3 Bush said there is "plenty of time" to get a Mideast peace deal in the 10 months before he leaves office

I'm going to miss him when Obama is POTUS.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2008-03-04 18:23|| 2008-03-04 18:23|| Front Page Top

#4 So show killed their own baby and blamed the Israelis?

Posted by legolas 2008-03-04 18:31|| 2008-03-04 18:31|| Front Page Top

#5 How did 1 month old baby ended up in the crossfire? Irresponsible parents or human shields?

If Israeli fired shells and missiles, how could they kill the baby by ricocheting bullet? Or did Palestinians themselves fired indiscriminately? Or was it a setup like in Lebanon?

BS and propaganda and CNN is eating it :(

Posted by techgaltx">techgaltx 2008-03-04 18:42|| 2008-03-04 18:42|| Front Page Top

#6 Guys, you need to understand the seriousness of this issue. Why the US is not giving pressure to Israel to go back to 1967 borders. Still they ate making new settlements although they have enough land. don't you think this is a violation, why this double stand US? In 1948 some 7,50,000 natural inhabitants of Palestine has been uprooted by the JEWS who were armed by US, British.

Posted by Jaffer">Jaffer 2008-03-04 18:45|| 2008-03-04 18:45|| Front Page Top

#7 Jaffer - No sympathy for Paleolithic Paleostinians here.

Posted by 3dc 2008-03-04 18:55|| 2008-03-04 18:55|| Front Page Top

#8 3dc, why not?? still they living as refugees and living in refugee camps under poor conditions. For you people all that matters is Israeli lives not the poor Palestine lives. I am not saying that Israel have no right to exist but why they cannot give back the lands that they grabbed in 1967. Even UN says that, who bothers?? If US want to broker a peace deal then it should make it faster, because there are innocents dying.

Posted by Jaffer">Jaffer 2008-03-04 19:02|| 2008-03-04 19:02|| Front Page Top

#9 they had a chance at peace and started the intifadas, they regularly kill civilians as "state" policy and target civilians with their rockets. Fuck em. They get what they deserve. You'll find no sympathy for a culture that puts Nahoul the Bee on to brainwash the kids. Bite me

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2008-03-04 19:10|| 2008-03-04 19:10|| Front Page Top

#10 #8 3dc, why not?? still they living as refugees and living in refugee camps under poor conditions.

For 60 F'ng years! Your Arab/muslims brothers keep them poor and stupid for propaganda!

For you people all that matters is Israeli lives not the poor Palestine lives.

Billions of dollars to these savages and what????
Nothing changes, gotta kill the Jews, you lowlife prick.

I am not saying that Israel have no right to exist but why they cannot give back the lands that they grabbed in 1967. Even UN says that, who bothers??

You lost the war get over yourelf!

If US want to broker a peace deal then it should make it faster, because there are innocents dying.

Would that be the "innocent" that harbor and sheild the Palo barbarians.

Take your false peace and read the Holy Bible. The islamist will find they have been lied too.

I'll pray for you.

Posted by Jaffer 2008-03-04 19:02|| Front Page|| ||Comments Top

Posted by Gromogum Pelosi6962 2008-03-04 19:12|| 2008-03-04 19:12|| Front Page Top

#11 You people have no value for humanity. The US should stop blindly supporting Israel for the cause of humanity. Hamas doing a mistake there by attacking Israel with rockets. But if look into the core issue then you will not speak like this, its easy for you to speak like this from US. Israel is known for throwing the peace deals in water, read history man.

Posted by Jaffer">Jaffer 2008-03-04 19:15|| 2008-03-04 19:15|| Front Page Top

#12 In 1948 some 7,50,000 natural inhabitants of Palestine has been uprooted by the JEWS who were armed by US, British.

This is crap. The Jews were not armed by the US and British. They had to buy their arms on the black market or from the Soviet Block. The British were actually supporting and arming Jordan's Army, which occupied the West Bank in 1948. More to the point, the war of 1948 was started by the Arabs, who refused to accept the UN Partition Resolution which would have created a Palestinian Arab State alongside Israel.

Posted by Apostate 2008-03-04 19:16|| 2008-03-04 19:16|| Front Page Top

#13 3dc, if someone created a new country in your homeland then you will not speak like this and you will be fighting for the freedom. The British ruled all over the world and atlast they have to give back the lands which they won in war. Your comments clearly shows you are not a lover of peace.

Posted by Jaffer">Jaffer 2008-03-04 19:19|| 2008-03-04 19:19|| Front Page Top

#14 Jaffer said:You people have no value for humanity.

Jaffer, please try to think. Look around the world today. Mulsims are killing Christian, Jews, Hindus, infedels. Thousands are dead or injured every day. Is this a reasonable position to take. What kind of God would command you to do this?

It is not God. It is satan.

Jesus said" because they refuse to love the truth"

You are being lied to. THINK FOR YOU SELF.

Does a loving God condone the brutal murder you see?

Posted by Kojo Elmearong9807 2008-03-04 19:23|| 2008-03-04 19:23|| Front Page Top

#15 Apostate its natural when someone suddenly comes in and divide the land in which your race lived for 1000 years. As per UN's stand the occupied lands of 1967 must be given back to Palestine. I think that will bring peace to the whole region. It can be only achieved by US.

Posted by Jaffer">Jaffer 2008-03-04 19:24|| 2008-03-04 19:24|| Front Page Top

#16 I am not saying that Israel have no right to exist but why they cannot give back the lands that they grabbed in 1967

In 2000 at Camp David, Israel was ready to agree to a Palestinian State on 94% of the West Bank, 100% of Gaza and further territory inside Israel. Arafat turned it down. Hamas openly says that its aim is to wipe out Israel. Why should Israel cede one inch of territory to people who voted for Hamas? All it will get in return are more rockets and more suicide bombs.

Posted by Apostate 2008-03-04 19:26|| 2008-03-04 19:26|| Front Page Top

#17 Kojo, those who are killing innocents in the name of religion cannot be called as Muslims. Majority of the Muslims are peace loving people and we are taking initiatives now to stop this kind of nonsense activities. Killing innocents are not allowed in Koran. It says "Lakum deenukkum Valiya deen" means "To be your way and to me mine". These terrorist idiots are not Muslims they are animals and they are against human race. They kill people regardless of religion. So stop questioning and blaming faiths, it has nothing to do with some nonsense people.

Posted by Jaffer">Jaffer 2008-03-04 19:29|| 2008-03-04 19:29|| Front Page Top

#18 Apostate, Arafat turned it down because of there is no word agaist East Jerusalem and for the refugee crisis.

Posted by Jaffer">Jaffer 2008-03-04 19:32|| 2008-03-04 19:32|| Front Page Top

#19 So stop questioning and blaming faiths, it has nothing to do with some nonsense people.
Posted by Jaffer 2008-03-04 19:29|| Front Page|| ||Comments Top

This makes you a liar.
Welcome to the 21st Century where even a person like me can read the koran, hadith and sira.
Your prophet was a blood thirsty murderer rapist and thief. He also santioned lying. And rape. and sex with childeren. Nice prophet you got ther jaffer.

Posted by Hupemble the Obscure4250 2008-03-04 19:35|| 2008-03-04 19:35|| Front Page Top

#20 A people who deliberately target innocent civilians as a mater of state policy does not deserve sympathy or recognition.

A people who have never lived up to any of its agreements for any peace process (see 'road~~kill~~map') but instead break it by deliberately targeting and blowing up busses filled with innocent civilians are simply not to be trusted.

A people who have been refugees for over 60 years without doing anything to get out of their 'refugee' status (except murder innocent Jews) no longer deserves sympathy.

A people who would elect a terrorist group (Hamas) as their government, of their own free will, does not deserve sympathy.

A people who would send their own children to murder innocent civilians do not deserve sympathy.

A people who react with glee with a pregnant mother and her 4 under 10 year old children are stopped on the highway and murdered in cold blood (simply because they are jewish) do not deserve sympathy.

A people who would use childhood characters much like Micky Mouse and Bugs Bunny to brainwash their children into intense hatred of a ethnic group - and to seek to murder that same group - do not deserve 'sympathy'.

I used to have 'sympathy' for the Palistinians. And if they would ever stop their terrorist methods and actually seek peace maybe something would come of it.

And by the way the 'moderate muslims' are not moderate because they are devout muslims but because they are not devout. That is why the terrorist can use the Koran as justification for their acts.

And Muslims do not seek 'equality' for non-muslims. Dhimmitude is not 'equality'.

Look at the laws of Saudi Arabia and Iran and how they treat non-muslims religions. Ask the Christians of Egypt.

Posted by CrazyFool 2008-03-04 19:38|| 2008-03-04 19:38|| Front Page Top

#21 Hupemble, these are wrong and lies even mis interpreted.

Posted by Jaffer">Jaffer 2008-03-04 19:38|| 2008-03-04 19:38|| Front Page Top

#22 CrazyFool, Why you have not mentioned about UAE, Turkey, the allies of US, there all religions got better treatment. They also Muslim countries.

Posted by Jaffer">Jaffer 2008-03-04 19:40|| 2008-03-04 19:40|| Front Page Top

#23 Hupemble further your comments, speaking bad about other faiths is a sin in Koran, Jesus is also a Prophet for us and we call him as Eesa. Why should I lie? You called me a liar, I have no business with you to lie.

Posted by Jaffer">Jaffer 2008-03-04 19:42|| 2008-03-04 19:42|| Front Page Top

#24 I have no business with you to lie.
Posted by Jaffer

Takyia. Hunda.
Takyia. Hunda.

Posted by Thrimble Prince of the Infinitesmal4667 2008-03-04 19:47|| 2008-03-04 19:47|| Front Page Top

#25 Jaffer, you seem sincere, so I'll put it politely (which is a change for me...), but what you are selling has been refuted by facts. Typically then, a salesman understands his product has been "exposed" and withdraws. We are all aware of what a "Right of return" means, i.e.: destruction of Israel of a Jewish democratic state. Perhaps you could point to a muslim-majority state that allows the minorities the same membership and governance-participation options? What about right-to-worship for non-muslims in Saudi? Ever wonder why the Arab Brothers will pay for arms but not resettle the Paleos? Ever wonder why everywhere they go: Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, Kuwait, the Arab Brothers consider them second-class citizens? Because they are!

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2008-03-04 19:52|| 2008-03-04 19:52|| Front Page Top

#26 Jaffer Jaffer Jaffer, Must we constantly list the Koran, hadith and sira to Show you that you prophet was a murderer, rapist, thief, and pedaphile. And a liar. Please.

See that google. Educate youself. You are being lied to by the imams.

Posted by Thaitle the Grim9322 2008-03-04 19:54|| 2008-03-04 19:54|| Front Page Top

#27 I am not saying that Israel have no right to exist but why they cannot give back the lands that they grabbed in 1967

They didn't grab it, they conquered it. In a war. Granted, it wasn't much of a war but you can't pick your opponents. But I suppose if you could, you'd pick Arabs. I would think they wouldn't want to give it back only to have to do it all over again. We've already seen what they get when they give back a place like say...Gaza?

Posted by tu3031 2008-03-04 20:00|| 2008-03-04 20:00|| Front Page Top

#28 Jesus said" because they refuse to love the truth"

Jaffer is conversing, Jesus is knocking on his door.

Jaffer, what does your heart tell you about the brutality of islam. From the begining to end it is not pretty.

What kind of God would sanction this butality.

Think!

Posted by Chesing B. Hayes2363 2008-03-04 20:00|| 2008-03-04 20:00|| Front Page Top

#29 Jaffer, you and the Arab world have a stunning case of cognitive dissonance. Egypt started the war and Jordan and Syria jumped in. Israel WON in six days. WON. As in YOU LOST. That was almost 41 years ago. GET OVER IT! YOU LOST. You have no valid claim. Anything Israel gives up is a gift to you, not a right.

Posted by Darrell 2008-03-04 20:04|| 2008-03-04 20:04|| Front Page Top

#30 Jaffer,
When I became a Born Again Christian I looked back on my life to see how come it took so long. I discovered that all through my life Jesus had been knocking on my door.Track you life from the begining you will see the same. There is a reason you came here.

Posted by Gleamble the Tiny6717 2008-03-04 20:10|| 2008-03-04 20:10|| Front Page Top

#31 We should give back the U.S. to the indians too.....

Posted by Slease Speaking for Boskone666 aka Broadhead6 2008-03-04 20:58|| 2008-03-04 20:58|| Front Page Top

#32 Boy, it's funny to watch a new troll getting slapped around. :-)

Posted by Scooter McGruder 2008-03-04 21:11|| 2008-03-04 21:11|| Front Page Top

#33 Troll land. Tell you what Jaffer if you condemn your pedophile for profit, admit he was a child molester, mass murderer, I'll admit Muslims follow a terrorist hand book called the porKoran.

Trouble is boy these men know more about your own history than you ever will.

Posted by Icerigger">Icerigger 2008-03-04 21:15|| 2008-03-04 21:15|| Front Page Top

#34 How about we give back the Middle East to their original people who Islam conquered it from - you know the Christians, Jews, and others....

As for Turkey and UAE - they prove my point since they are less religious in their government then SA or Iran.

I feel sorry for the Muslims who are born into it and are not allowed (under pain of death) to convert to any other religion or even hear about it (again - under pain of death for anyone who would preach anything else) or any criticism of Islam or Mo. For example the 'MoToons' or Danish Cartoons and the upcoming short film. One wonders why Islam and its clerics are so terrified of a bunch of cartoons. And no, they are not 'offended' - they are terrified.

"As for me, I pity even his slaves..." - one of my favorite lines from from Lord of the Rings

Posted by CrazyFool 2008-03-04 21:23|| 2008-03-04 21:23|| Front Page Top

#35 The paleo's chose to leave the human race. Therefore I have no sympathy, mercy, or compassion for them. If they all die, I don't care.

Maybe, when about 10 of them are left, they will decide to rejoin the human race and actually use the help that the US, Europe and even Israel has offered them to become a real nation. But some how, I don't think so.

I think after the cult of Allan is destroyed, future generations are going to bitch-slap us hard in the history books for failing to make the hard choices. Sad thing is, we deserve it.

Posted by Silentbrick">Silentbrick 2008-03-04 21:38|| 2008-03-04 21:38|| Front Page Top

#36 Jaffer - Cut it with this HOMELAND crap!
Vaterland! Motherland!...

In the US, these days, we are all pretty much mixed...
What's a homeland?
I might have ancestors from Norway and Germany...
The wife China..
The kids all three..
The neighbors - Mexico, .... and and ..
Homelands have no traction in the USA...
Its a totalitarian rallying point...
You get your hitlers with Deutchland Deutchland uber alles.
Your Soviets with the Motherland...
and your Paleos - tribes that wandered all over now yelling homeland..
Totalitarians all!

Posted by 3dc 2008-03-04 21:43|| 2008-03-04 21:43|| Front Page Top

#37 Troll feeding 3dc?

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2008-03-04 22:42|| 2008-03-04 22:42|| Front Page Top

#38 jaffer please read something other than paleo propoganda

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