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2007-10-18 Home Front: WoT
WND : Mexican military, U.S. police have border standoff in Texas
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Posted by anonymous5089 2007-10-18 05:18|| || Front Page|| [2 views ]  Top

#1 Mexico says the armed men crossing into the U.S. are paramilitary forces loyal to drug-smuggling cartels.

Those and the Mexican Army are one and the same.
Posted by gromky 2007-10-18 05:31||   2007-10-18 05:31|| Front Page Top

#2 "When you're up against mounted machine guns, what can you do?

Have the FAC call in Reapers.
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2007-10-18 06:47||   2007-10-18 06:47|| Front Page Top

#3 Where's the video? These stories have no impact if they don't have video. Some good action shots and it would be in red on the Drudge Report. Otherwise, just wring your hands boys.
Posted by Penguin 2007-10-18 07:10||   2007-10-18 07:10|| Front Page Top

#4 Fort Bliss is right there. Plenty of combat-experienced folks are usually around training more folks for combat experience. Neely's Crossing would be a much shorter commute that Iraq. I believe the place (Fort Bliss) was Gen. Pershing's base for defending America against analagous threats nearly 100 years ago.
Posted by Glenmore">Glenmore  2007-10-18 07:32||   2007-10-18 07:32|| Front Page Top

#5 1. Get video.

2. Post to YouTube.

3. Post to all the other video-sharing sites, since YouTube will likely yank it as "hate".

4. Pass the video around to as many people as possible.
Posted by Rob Crawford">Rob Crawford  2007-10-18 08:09||   2007-10-18 08:09|| Front Page Top

#6 I agree with RC. Get some video on the web and the news! Once the American people SEE it for themselves, maybe, just maybe, our government will freaking do something about it. We can't put our police officers in danger like that. They aren't equipped to deal with a military force. Arrrrrgggggh. This really makes my blood boil.
Posted by AllahHateMe 2007-10-18 08:44||   2007-10-18 08:44|| Front Page Top

#7 Mexico says the armed men crossing into the U.S. are paramilitary forces loyal to drug-smuggling cartels.

So in the near future, when they're just a pile of burnt cinder on the northern side of the Rio, there'll be no repercussions, cause you know that they're really not part of the official Mexican government. Even if there are a few more empty billets back in the Mexican Army base south of the border.
Posted by Procopius2k 2007-10-18 08:54||   2007-10-18 08:54|| Front Page Top

#8 Nimble Spemble: Reapers were my first thought too.

Can you imagine the heads exploding if the US Army set up machine guns 200 yards on the Mexican side of the border?

What the hell is wrong with us?
Posted by Excalibur 2007-10-18 09:03||   2007-10-18 09:03|| Front Page Top

#9 "When you're up against mounted machine guns, what can you do?

Combined arms doctrine says airstrikes, armor or artillery.

I rather suspect the sonic boommage from a fighter making a low pass with afterburner cranked would quickly change the tactical situation without a single shot being fired.
Posted by SteveS 2007-10-18 10:09||   2007-10-18 10:09|| Front Page Top

#10 Fences and LAAWS make for good neighbors.
Posted by ed 2007-10-18 10:14||   2007-10-18 10:14|| Front Page Top

#11 Call in a AC-130. Make short work of 'em.
Posted by DarthVader">DarthVader  2007-10-18 10:40||   2007-10-18 10:40|| Front Page Top

#12 Oh, and where is our fence, senior Bush? Oh yea, you are getting it with a reach around from our "friends" down south and can't get to it.

Washington elite asshats.
Posted by DarthVader">DarthVader  2007-10-18 10:41||   2007-10-18 10:41|| Front Page Top

#13 50mm sniper rifles, alot of em
Posted by traveller 2007-10-18 10:57||   2007-10-18 10:57|| Front Page Top

#14 or, shaped charges convienently placed around their favorite entry points.
Posted by traveller 2007-10-18 10:58||   2007-10-18 10:58|| Front Page Top

#15 I like the AC-130 solution.
Posted by 3dc 2007-10-18 11:31||   2007-10-18 11:31|| Front Page Top

#16 I told Mr. Wife about it this morning, and he commented, "If this has been going on for a while, it's because Bush is ok with it."

Definitely photos and video, whether on YouTube or forwarded to the entire address book, and the border states will vote for whichever candidate most believably promises to stop it.
Posted by trailing wife 2007-10-18 11:40||   2007-10-18 11:40|| Front Page Top

#17 Eventually this is going to turn into a shooting incident, with casualties, followed by a desperate attempt the the US government to hush it up.

Only when a bunch of US civilians are gunned down by Mexican Army personnel is there going to be a response, unless some US citizens with sniper rifles take down an entire Mexican Army unit inside the US.
Posted by Anonymoose 2007-10-18 11:48||   2007-10-18 11:48|| Front Page Top

#18 plz add my outrage to the list,
absoulutely outrageous.. we've been betrayed by Bush and his cronies big time..

If both Bill Clinton and GW Bush owned a Feed Lot and sold Bull Shit for a living instead of making a living in US politics, Americans would have been better off.
Posted by Red Dawg">Red Dawg  2007-10-18 12:16||   2007-10-18 12:16|| Front Page Top

#19 ...At a spot more than 200 yards inside the U.S., Mexican Army troops set up several mounted machine guns

It is an invading force. Treat them as such.

These greed based narco-terrorists are as bad as the religion fueled muslim terrorists.

Drugs are destroying this country.

What's it going to take until something is done by the U.S.?
Posted by JohnQC 2007-10-18 12:19||   2007-10-18 12:19|| Front Page Top

#20 What's it going to take until something is done by the U.S.?

A successful conclusion of CW2.
Posted by Laurence of the Rats">Laurence of the Rats  2007-10-18 12:32||   2007-10-18 12:32|| Front Page Top

#21 Blackwater anyone?
Posted by Besoeker 2007-10-18 12:44||   2007-10-18 12:44|| Front Page Top

#22 Bull$hit
"One of the most salient features of our culture is that there is so much bullshit. Everyone knows this. Each of us contributes his share. But we tend to take the situation for granted. Most people are rather confident of their ability to recognize bullshit and to avoid being taken in by it. So the phenomenon has not aroused much deliberate concern, or attracted much sustained inquiry. In consequence, we have no clear understanding of what bullshit is, why there is so much of it, or what functions it serves.

One who is concerned to report or to conceal the facts assumes that there are indeed facts that are in some way both determinate and knowable. His interest in telling the truth or in lying presupposes that there is a difference between getting things wrong and getting them right, and that it is at least occasionally possible to tell the difference. Someone who ceases to believe in the possibility of identifying certain statements as true and others as false can have only two alternatives. The first is to desist both from efforts to tell the truth and from efforts to deceive. This would mean refraining from making any assertion whatever about the facts. The second alternative is to continue making assertions that purport to describe the way things are but that cannot be anything except bullshit."


"
Posted by SR-71">SR-71  2007-10-18 13:08||   2007-10-18 13:08|| Front Page Top

#23 SR-71.. So?
Posted by Throger Thains8048 2007-10-18 13:21||   2007-10-18 13:21|| Front Page Top

#24 CW2?
Posted by JohnQC 2007-10-18 15:27||   2007-10-18 15:27|| Front Page Top

#25 "If this has been going on for a while, it's because Bush is ok with it."

I've said as much myself before. The drug problem is the same as illegal immigration. If the government was serious about stopping it, they could. All the solutions you good Rantburgers have offered here could be easily brought to bear and yet they are not. The problem is that too many people are making too much money from it. Is it any surprise? If the cheap labor from illegal aliens is enough to corrupt them, how much more corrupting would be the fabulous amounts of lucre from the drug trade?

I took a lot heat here yesterday for wondering if I could vote for Giuliani against Hillary. But this is the problem I have unless Giuliani promises in no uncertain terms to disavow amnesty and to secure the damn border. What good is it to win in Iraq if we lose our own country?
Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2007-10-18 16:24||   2007-10-18 16:24|| Front Page Top

#26 [Aris Katsaris has been pooplisted.]
Posted by Aris Katsaris 2007-10-18 16:32||   2007-10-18 16:32|| Front Page Top

#27 If the government was serious about stopping it, they could.

Then how come there's drugs in prison? Or is the government not serious about stopping countraband there, either?
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2007-10-18 16:34||   2007-10-18 16:34|| Front Page Top

#28 Do I understand correctly that so long as Mr. Katsaris is pooplisted, his comments are visible only to him?
Posted by trailing wife 2007-10-18 16:38||   2007-10-18 16:38|| Front Page Top

#29 [Aris Katsaris has been pooplisted.]
Posted by Aris Katsaris 2007-10-18 16:41||   2007-10-18 16:41|| Front Page Top

#30 Do I understand correctly that so long as Mr. Katsaris is pooplisted, his comments are visible only to him?

yes, TW, but he has always been his own biggest fan, so no loss
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2007-10-18 17:03||   2007-10-18 17:03|| Front Page Top

#31 #30 Do I understand correctly that so long as Mr. Katsaris is pooplisted, his comments are visible only to him?

yes, TW, but he has always been his own biggest fan, so no loss


Kinda cool though, when you think about it. Outside, look'n in. Screaming his lungs out to no avail. Sort of a Twilight Zone version of hell.
Posted by Gabby Cussworth 2007-10-18 17:26||   2007-10-18 17:26|| Front Page Top

#32 When you make the pooplist your comments vanish into the ether, seen by no one. Sure hope Aris kept a copy. AoS.
Posted by Steve White">Steve White  2007-10-18 17:32||   2007-10-18 17:32|| Front Page Top

#33 I went to his blog to see if he's posting them there. Nope. And that's the problem. He doesn't have anything to really say; he just wants to be disruptive.

It will be interesting to see how long he keeps trying to post. If the definition of insanity is repeatedly doing the same thing and expecting a different result...
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2007-10-18 17:44||   2007-10-18 17:44|| Front Page Top

#34 #13 50mm sniper rifles???????

I REALLY wanna get me one of them!!! Of course, the recoil might be a bit much. . . . .but the effects would be GREAT!!!!

Posted by Canuckistan sniper 2007-10-18 17:48||   2007-10-18 17:48|| Front Page Top

#35 "Do I understand correctly that so long as Mr. Katsaris is pooplisted, his comments are visible only to him?"

No. Troll 753433 (his official designation since being PL'd) can't see his comments any more than you can. That he keeps on posting them is kinda bogglesome, when you think about it...
Posted by Dave D.">Dave D.  2007-10-18 17:51||   2007-10-18 17:51|| Front Page Top

#36 So what's the difference between being pooplisted and being designated a troll?
Posted by trailing wife 2007-10-18 17:59||   2007-10-18 17:59|| Front Page Top

#37 Same thing, AFAIK.
Posted by Dave D.">Dave D.  2007-10-18 18:03||   2007-10-18 18:03|| Front Page Top

#38 Trolls show up in the sinktrap until they're PL'd don't they?
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2007-10-18 18:07||   2007-10-18 18:07|| Front Page Top

#39 Fred's been fiddling with the software, and any and all of that stuff is apt to change as far as I know.
Posted by Dave D.">Dave D.  2007-10-18 18:09||   2007-10-18 18:09|| Front Page Top

#40 canuk sniper.....apparently they hardly have any recoil and can fire multiple shots quickly while not losing the target too much.
Posted by viking ryyken 2007-10-18 19:02||   2007-10-18 19:02|| Front Page Top

#41 viking ryyken, 50 mm is 5 centimeters or just a tad under 2 inches. That is one king hell sniper rifle!
Posted by SteveS 2007-10-18 19:57||   2007-10-18 19:57|| Front Page Top

#42 This happened in Texas. Send in the Texas Rangers. Just like they did a hundred years ago when we had problems with Meskins down here.
Posted by Cramp B. Hayes6093 2007-10-18 21:47||   2007-10-18 21:47|| Front Page Top

#43 I am going to start a fence business down here, too. Apply to put up that fence. Gonna call it Alamo Fence Company.
Posted by Cramp B. Hayes6093 2007-10-18 21:50||   2007-10-18 21:50|| Front Page Top

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