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2007-06-19 Britain

Introducing the Council of Ex-Muslims of Britain

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Posted by trailing wife 2007-06-19 16:10|| || Front Page|| [3 views ] Top
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#1 Introducing the Council of Ex-Muslims of Britain

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2007-06-19 16:50|| 2007-06-19 16:50|| Front Page Top

#2 Lotsa good stuff here, but some slippery slope stuff too. Look at point 8. I send my daughter to a Catholic school. Is she being "manipulated"? Some would surely think so. That said, I am pleased to see a group like this stand up. I would prefer to see a group of active Muzzies stand up and say that several core tenets of our religion HAVE to change, otherwise we are quitting. Hey, they could quit become Episcopalians...the rules there seem somewhat...malleable. (Please note that I attend the Episcopalian church, but find I have to hold my nose frequently.)

Posted by remoteman 2007-06-19 17:08|| 2007-06-19 17:08|| Front Page Top

#3 Zen, don't be so cynical.

Another less cynical approach...

There are a lot of former muslims that have their head screwed on right. That is, they are able to think and form logical conclusions. It may as well have a component of betting on a strong horse... the initial impetus that may have been at the beginning of their departure from Islam. They must see that Islam is coming to closure and it is in death throes. Trashing about, it has still enough strength to wreak havoc here and there, but ultimately, it is dying. Itself (as ummah) it does not know it yet and perpetuates it own delusions but many former muslims see clearly the sign on the wall.

We can only hope that there is enough of them coming out into open that they may influence or provide a moral support for others that are less brave, and that their numbers would increase in more than linear progression.

It is one of the factors that may influence the duration and casualty list of this war.

Posted by twobyfour 2007-06-19 18:26|| 2007-06-19 18:26|| Front Page Top

#4 We can only hope that there is enough of them coming out into open that they may influence or provide a moral support for others that are less brave, and that their numbers would increase in more than linear progression.

Sorry, pal. I'm an optimist but in no way do I have any confidence that Islam will manage to reform itself significantly enough to avoid self-imposed extermination. We're talking almost SIX YEARS after the 9-11 atrocities and the number of protesting Muslims amounts to zilch.

Sure, I like the notion that some Muslims are brave enough to exit the closet and declare their opposition to Islam's Neanderthal dogma. Anti-Islamic propaganda needs all the help it can get with increasing public awareness about the threat. That in no way changes how important it is to catastrophically disassemble this shitwagon of a political ideology, STAT. Theocracy of any make or label needs to be demolished post haste. It is absolute poison and should not be tolerated by the civilized world.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2007-06-19 19:01|| 2007-06-19 19:01|| Front Page Top

#5 Zen, I were talking NOT about reforming Islam (a futile exercise--one can deprogram cultists but not a cult), but about EXITING it.

Posted by twobyfour 2007-06-19 19:11|| 2007-06-19 19:11|| Front Page Top

#6 I think that there are more of these folks than we know. But it will take locals horrors happening before they sign on.

Posted by Thinemp Whimble 2007-06-19 20:33|| 2007-06-19 20:33|| Front Page Top

#7 Zen, I were talking NOT about reforming Islam (a futile exercise--one can deprogram cultists but not a cult), but about EXITING it.

Fear not, twobyfour, you were not at all unclear. My point remains that far too many Muslims simply will notby choice or compulsionrise up against Islam's clerical elite and break their own ideological chains. The West is in no way obliged to sympathize with their bulk subscription to such an auto-destruct sequence. We have oneand only onemandate, eliminate the threat. Since the Koran itself, along with all who even marginally adhere to it, represent both a retrograde force and fundamentally lethal toxin to over a thousand years of governmental progress, there can be no respite granted in our pursuit of simple survival.

Speaking as a scientific agnostic, I find little objection with Muslims converting to Christianity or other more tolerant faiths. I welcome and encourage abandonment of such a death oriented cult in the largest scale possible. However, there is absolutely NOTHING which gives me any confidenceshort of an entirely improbable wholesale migration away from the Koran's suicidal dictatesthat will provide the least insurance against continued assaults upon the West. For that reason I am resolutely committed to a catastrophic disassembly of Islam at the soonest possible opportunity.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2007-06-19 21:10|| 2007-06-19 21:10|| Front Page Top

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