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2007-06-04 Home Front: Culture Wars

In Vermont, nascent secession movement gains traction

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Posted by Steve White 2007-06-04 00:00|| || Front Page|| [4 views ] Top

#1 Well, let's see. How does Vermont stack up in the area of self-sufficiency?

How much oil refining capacity does it have?
How much power-generation does it have?
How much of it's food is raised in-state?

There are a lot of other questions like that, but these are enough to start. If Vermont is not protected by US trade laws, it would have to pay whatever its neighbors wanted to charge it for access.

Moronic idea.

Posted by Lone Ranger 2007-06-04 00:38|| 2007-06-04 00:38|| Front Page Top

#2 What's the big deal? Let them go. Let them figure out how to get gasoline for their Volvos and VW busses. Let them build their own powerplants for electricity.

Posted by anymouse">anymouse 2007-06-04 01:13|| 2007-06-04 01:13|| Front Page Top

#3 I'm all for shooting separatists. By historical example, it's too dangerous not to.

Posted by Penguin 2007-06-04 01:31|| 2007-06-04 01:31|| Front Page Top

#4 Let them secede.

2 Dem Senators go with them, as do 3 electoral votes that are in the Dems Pockets.

I encourage it!

Posted by Fleretle Lumumba9694 2007-06-04 01:58|| 2007-06-04 01:58|| Front Page Top

#5 Vermont can take their socialist orientation and maple syrup and run off to join Canada for all I care.

Posted by Galactic Coordinator Crelet7595 2007-06-04 02:13|| 2007-06-04 02:13|| Front Page Top

#6 Crelet7595, really? And join whom, Harper? ;-)

Nah, they can secede and stuff themselves silly with Ben & Jerry's Cherry Garcia.

Posted by twobyfour 2007-06-04 04:00|| 2007-06-04 04:00|| Front Page Top

#7 I'd like to see the entire North East secede. Imagine a country with the likes of Kennedy or Clinton.

Posted by BrerRabbit 2007-06-04 06:06|| 2007-06-04 06:06|| Front Page Top

#8 Vermont is the least populous state, more people live in Wyoming. These people don't matter.

Posted by no mo uro 2007-06-04 06:08|| 2007-06-04 06:08|| Front Page Top

#9 That would extend Social Security a few more years, so I say let them go.

Posted by Grusosh Borgia9229 2007-06-04 07:48|| 2007-06-04 07:48|| Front Page Top

#10 The total separation from the real world, even when it looks you right in the face. So, boys, how did New Orleans do without power, clean water, waste disposal, food, etc? How are you going to get along without the ever news worthy winter fuel oil? [insert heavy New England accent here] You can't get there from here.

Posted by Procopius2k 2007-06-04 08:01|| 2007-06-04 08:01|| Front Page Top

#11 Hugo will send 'em oil, no doubt.

Posted by Seafarious">Seafarious 2007-06-04 08:39|| 2007-06-04 08:39|| Front Page Top

#12 Let the UN and all the NGO's show how they can do more for the people like they do in Palestine.

Posted by AlmostAnonymous5839">AlmostAnonymous5839 2007-06-04 09:03|| 2007-06-04 09:03|| Front Page Top

#13 Let the UN and all the NGO's show how they can do more for the people like they do in Palestine.

Posted by AlmostAnonymous5839">AlmostAnonymous5839 2007-06-04 09:03|| 2007-06-04 09:03|| Front Page Top

#14 In an unrelated note, 3 earthquakes were recorded over the weekend just off the coast of New Hampshire.

Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2007-06-04 11:34|| 2007-06-04 11:34|| Front Page Top

#15 A poll this year by the University of Vermont's Center for Rural Studies found that 13 percent of those surveyed support secession, up from 8 percent a year before.

Wow! A whole 13%! That means 87% said no.

Posted by Angaiger Tojo1904 2007-06-04 11:59|| 2007-06-04 11:59|| Front Page Top

#16 Perhaps it would quiet things down if a few of the secessionists were jailed in federal prison (I'm thinking Colo. Supermax) for about 30 years. This is a dangerous idea, being made light of. It should be snuffed out altogether and immediately.

Posted by bigjim-ky 2007-06-04 12:02|| 2007-06-04 12:02|| Front Page Top

#17 This isn't the first time a secession movement has surfaced in Vermont. Back during the Louisianna Purchase all the Northeast states Maine, New Hampshire, Vermony, Massachusetts, Connecticut) threatened to secede if the deal was done. They backed down then. Maybe they shouldn't have.

Posted by Deacon Blues 2007-06-04 12:13|| 2007-06-04 12:13|| Front Page Top

#18 I've got a feeling that if a question was put on the ballot to deport the massive influx of New Yorkers and Massholes back to their native lands from Vermont, it would pass in a landslide...

Posted by tu3031 2007-06-04 12:43|| 2007-06-04 12:43|| Front Page Top

#19 Can't let that happen, then there would be a lot more fence to not build........

Posted by USN. Ret. 2007-06-04 15:41|| 2007-06-04 15:41|| Front Page Top

#20 Sure, no problem, whatever. BTW, Vermont - your share of the national debt is $17.8 billion. Be sure to pay up before you leave (cash only).

Posted by DMFD 2007-06-04 18:42|| 2007-06-04 18:42|| Front Page Top

#21 Ummmm - didn't the U.S. settle this shit in 1865?

Just sayin'.

Posted by Barbara Skolaut">Barbara Skolaut 2007-06-04 18:43|| http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/]">[http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/] 2007-06-04 18:43|| Front Page Top

#22 "nascent secession movement gains traction..."

hmm, working on our vocab, today, are we?

Posted by Harry Glick8264 2007-06-04 18:46|| 2007-06-04 18:46|| Front Page Top

#23 In the Soviet of Hawaii, the movement is native Hawaiians who want a return to the Royal Hawaiian gov't overthrown by American settlers around 1898. They call it the "Reinstated Hawaiian Gov't".... others call it the "Imaginary Hawaiian Gov't."

Posted by Not Kamehameha 2007-06-04 18:51|| 2007-06-04 18:51|| Front Page Top

#24 Actually, it's kinda sad..... The Vermonters I grew up with would have ostracized/killed-and-eaten anyone with such crackpot ideas.... yuppies escaping Big East cities started flooding the state in the '70's and now it's beyond redemption short of a major ass-kick of an epiphany.

Posted by Clolush Johnson2479 2007-06-04 18:57|| 2007-06-04 18:57|| Front Page Top

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