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2007-04-23 China-Japan-Koreas
China sez "growth before green"
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Posted by Seafarious 2007-04-23 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11133 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 How dare those yellow proles they want to have the same things Westerners have?

/leftist liberal greenie moonbat
Posted by Barbara Skolaut">Barbara Skolaut  2007-04-23 00:26|| http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/]">[http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/]  2007-04-23 00:26|| Front Page Top

#2 Meanwhile, the Chinese Ministry of Land and Resources reported that more than 10 per cent of country's farm land was contaminated. Excessive fertiliser use, dirty water and solid waste were among the main pollutants, with heavy metals alone poisoning around 12 million tonnes of grain a year.

So what if melamine contaminated wheat gluten kills off our pets here in America? So what if lax enforcement and corrupt Chinese bureaucrats turn a blind eye to non-nutritional infant formula that kills babies, poisonous industrial dyes in foodstuffs or marginal civil engineering standards? So what if flagrant violations of common medical practices in Henan Province have led to the largest medically caused AIDS epidemic in history? An epidemic that, through governmental malfeasance, continues to expand on an annual basis.

So what if China may well overtake the United States as a producer of "greenhouse gases" within this year? So what if huge portions of China are undergoing desertification or blight due to some of the worst acid rain in the entire world? So what if priceless archaeological and heritage sites are routinely destroyed in the name of industrial progress? So what if China's massive hydroelectric projects on the Mekong River's headwaters may cause profound ecological damage or food chain collapse for other downstream Southeast Asian nations? So what if China props up a North Korean regime that starves its people into cannibalism and destabilizes the entire Northeast Asian quadrant with nuclear and conventional weapons proliferation?

The Politburo's fixation on "progress" comes at too high of a price for the nations surrounding China. The global community must take measures to begin attenuating China's growth before irreversible damage is done. A massive boycott of Chinese goods and strict enforcement of intellectual property, copyright and trademark violations must be initiated. Without such intervention, China will become the elephant in the henhouse with potentially fatal results for the surrounding chickens.
Posted by Zenster">Zenster  2007-04-23 00:45||   2007-04-23 00:45|| Front Page Top

#3 China, you gotta let us help you with this. The soil effects alone should make you cringe when we talk about Airable land. You need all the land and soil you can muster. Development Does also mean self imposed environmental rules that any engineer could spend days talking about.
Posted by newc">newc  2007-04-23 00:57||   2007-04-23 00:57|| Front Page Top

#4 Articles all over the Net today and even weekend.
WAFF.com Poster > CHINA WILL BE THE DE FACTO NEXT SUPERPOWER > THE CHINESE DRAGON IS NO LONGER BUYING OUR BONDS. China may use her reported $1.07 Trilyuuhn hard currency reserves in US-based T-Bills agz America. Financial Times + WSJ all recognize the $$$ threat to USA in view of Poster. WORLDNEWS > CHINA TO CREATE NEW GOVT. CENTRAL AGENCY FOR GLOBAL INVESTMENTS, REDUCE DEFICITS [acquire Chinese-centric strategic assets espec in Central-South Americas + Africa].
GLOBALRESEARCH > CHINA DAILY > CHINA EMBRACES INNOVATION, BECOMES NEW GLOBAL RESEARCH AND HIGH TECHNOLOGY CENTER. SCOTSMAN > CHINA RISING TO BECOME WORLD NUMBER ONE.

OTOH, WORLDNEWS/SPACEWAR > NUCLEAR POWER NOT FOR CHINA [domestic energy], China wants the black stuff; + TEN PERCENT of arable = usable Chinese farmland is CONTAMINATED/HEAVILY POLLUTED. Unusability + available Nation-wide acreage expected expected to steadily WORSEN.

The GOOD NEWS? is that, ala the above WAFF POster article, "THE COMMUNISTS ARE TAKING CONTROL ....THEY LOVE MONEY ...LOVE WEALTH ... BUT DON'T WANT THE [PRIVATE] RICH TO WIELD THE POWERS THAT THEY HAVE HERE AMERICA". Fear the Rich taking everything away [from the Commies?]and betraying People and Society & Nation.
Posted by JosephMendiola 2007-04-23 01:34||   2007-04-23 01:34|| Front Page Top

#5 Or was that COMMUNITARIANS???
Posted by JosephMendiola 2007-04-23 01:36||   2007-04-23 01:36|| Front Page Top

#6 I expect Al Gore and Sheryl Crow to go to Beijing immediately, walk right up to Hu Jintao, and give him what-for on the environment.

[taps foot]

Al? Cheryl?

[crickets]
Posted by Mike 2007-04-23 06:51||   2007-04-23 06:51|| Front Page Top

#7 That's nitpicking Zenster.
Posted by bigjim-ky 2007-04-23 07:43||   2007-04-23 07:43|| Front Page Top

#8 If it's as bad as all that, surely within a generation or two the Chinese Problem will be moot. Let's see... there'll be a massive die-off amongst the adult population as HIV becomes full-blown AIDS, not to mention all those poor little HIV-infected babies who never even make it to childhood; there will be the decreased productivity, slow deaths, decreased birth rates and increased birth defects, amongst the majority ingesting dangerously contaminated foodstuffs and water... Oh, and international sales of all sorts of things should drop off as it becomes increasingly clear that products from China are dangerously contaminated. No doubt the price of Ho-hos will go up in the short term, and of course animal feed -- which will leave more for the local Chinese to eat, poor things. Medium term they may end up importing massive amounts of basic foodstuffs that are safe to eat, sucking up a nice chunk of their dollar reserves, and eventually they'll have to hire large numbers of environmental engineers to teach them how to clean up the mess they've created.

On the other hand, significant amounts of lead in the body tissues significantly degrades one's ability to think clearly. In other words, the Chinese leaders may by that time be unable to form the thoughts that would lead them to a realistic answer.
Posted by trailing wife 2007-04-23 08:20||   2007-04-23 08:20|| Front Page Top

#9 Zen, The Party let the geni out of the bottle when they started down the "(semi)capitalist road". Now they are just trying to keep it under control, but it's hard to control 1 billion poor folks who want the better life they've seen.
Posted by Spot">Spot  2007-04-23 08:47||   2007-04-23 08:47|| Front Page Top

#10 Of course there's the Mexican approach of neither growth nor green, just dump on thy neighbor.
Posted by Procopius2k 2007-04-23 11:14||   2007-04-23 11:14|| Front Page Top

#11 In other words, the Chinese leaders may by that time be unable to form the thoughts that would lead them to a realistic answer.

They're Communists; they already have this problem.
Posted by Rob Crawford">Rob Crawford  2007-04-23 11:20|| http://www.kloognome.com/]">[http://www.kloognome.com/]  2007-04-23 11:20|| Front Page Top

#12 Can't say enough bad things about the creeps who are running China. The problem with pollution is that it doesn't stay put. It travels and has no respect for international borders. I remember hearing all the greenies wailing about mercury poisoning the fish as if it was all George Bush's fault but the fact is most of the mercury comes from the smokestacks of Chinese coal buring power plants. The only way this is Bush's fault is that he condones trade with China. We should NOT trade with China. We should NOT have let them into WTO. Bush Senior said we need to engage them, not isolate them, but I think he was speaking for the business interests in this country that profit from Chinese imports (Never mind national security and all those profits going to the PLA. Never mind their demand for oil driving up the price for us.). IMHO the Chinese should be isolated until they learn to behave themselves in a more civilized manner.
Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2007-04-23 11:58||   2007-04-23 11:58|| Front Page Top

#13 I will NOT be watching the Olympics on TV when they are held in China.
Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2007-04-23 12:00||   2007-04-23 12:00|| Front Page Top

#14 QUICK!! Somebody--Al Gore--Anybody!! Organize a march real soon!

Uh,preferably somewhere the Chinese security people can't get ya.
Posted by AlmostAnonymous5839">AlmostAnonymous5839  2007-04-23 12:30||   2007-04-23 12:30|| Front Page Top

#15 Bunch of morons. Not only is China becoming more technologically advanced then us, but Gore has been to China. He can't get you bunch of stupid rednecks to listen, what chance does he have with the Chinese? So, what's the problem, anyway? That the Chinese will suck up what's left of the great "Planet Earth Buffet" before you do? Go out and enjoy a sunset. There ain't that many left mostly due to the fact that the comments here faithfully represent the best of human discourse. And because they do, the message being inferred can be reduced to a single statement of fact: We are fucked real bad. Oh, and I know you are all too stupid to understand the meaning of this, but, there is one decent, humanitarian thing all you fucking racist assholes can do as a first and final act of selflessness: don't have kids.
Posted by Lemuel Cluns4877 2007-04-23 18:48||   2007-04-23 18:48|| Front Page Top

#16 Lem,

I've had 6. And it shure waz fun.
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2007-04-23 18:53||   2007-04-23 18:53|| Front Page Top

#17 Too late, Lem. I've already got Grandkids.
Posted by Deacon Blues">Deacon Blues  2007-04-23 19:55||   2007-04-23 19:55|| Front Page Top

#18 He can't get you bunch of stupid rednecks to listen, what chance does he have with the Chinese?

Oh, we listened, you self-righteous Canadian twit. We just think it's crap.
Posted by Pappy 2007-04-23 21:06||   2007-04-23 21:06|| Front Page Top

#19 Oh, we listened. We just thinkknow it's crap.

There, Pappy, fixed it for ya. Don't soft-soap it, man, tell it like it is! Algore is a congenital liar and a con man. He needs a hemp necktie, a tall tree, and a short horse.
Posted by Old Patriot">Old Patriot  2007-04-23 21:25|| http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/]">[http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/]  2007-04-23 21:25|| Front Page Top

#20 Nah, I think Al's an opportunist. I'd rather seem him hang around another 20 years, when the theory gets blown out of the water, like Mathus' Theory, the ozone layer, 'nuclear winter'...
Posted by Pappy 2007-04-23 22:15||   2007-04-23 22:15|| Front Page Top

#21 #15: "We are fucked real bad."

Maybe YOU are "fucked real bad," Lem-baby, but the normal people around here are doing just fine.

Go shove your nose back up AlBore's ass and leave us normal people alone.
Posted by Barbara Skolaut">Barbara Skolaut  2007-04-23 22:31|| http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/]">[http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/]  2007-04-23 22:31|| Front Page Top

#22 I'm into stealing all the Arabs Peek Oil and drinking it today with my eleventeen kidz back to the trailer park. Maybe I'll saw down a couple of old growth trees if I'm feeling good. Tree Jinns and just plain fairies are known to hide in them.
Posted by Shipman">Shipman  2007-04-23 23:05||   2007-04-23 23:05|| Front Page Top

#23 ima gonna faRT IN Lemuel's general direction.

>^)
Posted by RD">RD  2007-04-23 23:37||   2007-04-23 23:37|| Front Page Top

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