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2007-03-21 Iraq

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Posted by Steve White 2007-03-21 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11131 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 "My ROE may not be modified with supplemental guidance lower down.

And there you have it.

Posted by Shipman">Shipman 2007-03-21 01:04|| 2007-03-21 01:04|| Front Page Top

#2 See also RIGHTNATION/LUCIANNE > BY THE WAY, WE'RE NOT LOSING article.

Posted by JosephMendiola 2007-03-21 02:23|| 2007-03-21 02:23|| Front Page Top

#3 Changing the ROE and having it be consistent is HUGE.

So is getting out in the bush (or the streets in the case of Baghdad and Ramadi, etc) and styaing there. If you keep going back to the rear with the gear, then the opponent will figure it out and so will the people: you leave and they pay the price. You stay, and they might start trusting you.

Ship: God's honest truth for that - some dumbass Colonels and LTC's had their own rules and were hamstringing their troops. Mostly frikken control freak "blanket folders", not combat arms men. More Courtney Massengale than Sam Damon. Now that the general has taken those assholes out of the loop, things will get done.

And if any of you readers dont know those names, go to the library and get "Once an Eagle" and read it. Every senior NCO and officer that are worth a damn have read it and takenthe lessons there to heart.

Posted by OldSpook 2007-03-21 02:27|| 2007-03-21 02:27|| Front Page Top

#4 OS, I read it a long time ago. Twice. Anton Myrer was a very, very good author.

Posted by Groger Gonque7660 2007-03-21 04:35|| 2007-03-21 04:35|| Front Page Top

#5 David is a riteous Man.

Posted by newc">newc 2007-03-21 08:59|| 2007-03-21 08:59|| Front Page Top

#6 David Petraeus in '08.

I like Dave.

Posted by Procopius2k 2007-03-21 09:24|| 2007-03-21 09:24|| Front Page Top

#7 Id say something, but its like two, maybe three innnings in, and the other side aint gotten on base yet, and like any baseball fan knows, you dont call attention to that yet. You just look around, and, wonder, and hope.

Posted by liberalhawk 2007-03-21 14:18|| 2007-03-21 14:18|| Front Page Top

#8 The reason the "surge" is working is that the enemy is hunkering down and waiting for the surge to recede. These troops are just staying in the neighborhood for the duration of the surge. When the surge is over, they'll go back to their bases and the terrorism will start all over again.

Posted by gromky 2007-03-21 14:38|| 2007-03-21 14:38|| Front Page Top

#9 Naw, this is time for a high hard one right under the chin.

Posted by Bob Gibson (stay the fuck away from the plate asshole)">Bob Gibson (stay the fuck away from the plate asshole) 2007-03-21 15:05|| 2007-03-21 15:05|| Front Page Top

#10 Gromky, if the people are coming forward with tips much more frequently, then any enemy who is hunkered down will eventually get a knock at his door and a search of the grounds for IED parts.
I agree that al Q will go underground, but tips will clean up many neighborhoods at the same time.
The key is whether peaceful Iraqis will continue to control the streets long after the surge is finished. That is assuming there are peaceful Iraqis.

Posted by wxjames 2007-03-21 15:52|| 2007-03-21 15:52|| Front Page Top

#11 A big part of the key is money. With stability comes rebuilding and rebuilding means jobs and money for lots of people. When people have these things the alure of planting IED's and other mayhem diminishes. When people have these things for a while and get used to them then they are a lot more pissed off when some islamic nut job pulls a stunt that takes their financial security off track. If the power stays on and the water starts to flow and the streets get paved, the hospitals built, etc, etc and the workers are paid to do all of these things then AlQ is screwed.
Go General Patraeus!

Posted by remoteman 2007-03-21 18:57|| 2007-03-21 18:57|| Front Page Top

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