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2006-12-03 -Short Attention Span Theater-

San Francisco: Navy scuttles plan to commission warship here, citing local politics

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Posted by Atomic Conspiracy 2006-12-03 00:00|| || Front Page|| [10 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Hey, Gerardo? What are you gonna say after the Big Earthquake when only the "cops and the Coast Guard" show up? Think the AIDS Brigade and the homeless advocates will make everything all better?

Posted by tu3031 2006-12-02 19:46|| 2006-12-02 19:46|| Front Page Top

#2 This story is pretty funny, IMHO.

Cause => Effect: A bridge too far for Marin County Pols?

Lol.

Posted by .com 2006-12-02 19:52|| 2006-12-02 19:52|| Front Page Top

#3 If the people of San Francisco think that their representatives on the board of supervisors are way out of line in their hostility to the military, then they better change their leadership. Cause ===> Effect. SF has made it very clear that the Navy is not welcome there, so off to San Diego, where they will be welcomed with open arms.

Rantburg will have a representative on hand for the ceremonies, who will give us a full report of the goings on in text and pictures. Commodore Frank G, you have your orders. That is all.

Posted by Alaska Paul ">Alaska Paul 2006-12-02 20:10|| 2006-12-02 20:10|| Front Page Top

#4 San Diego welcomes and salutes them. Remember that when you want to knee-jerk bash Californians

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2006-12-02 20:11|| 2006-12-02 20:11|| Front Page Top

#5 Gerardo Sandoval, a member of the Board of Supervisors, who was quoted on national television as saying national defense should be left to "the cops and the Coast Guard.''

Interesting... that was what another leftist type, Nehru, said in another country, India.. only he had to power to implement things..

He had to eat his own words when the Chinese attacked...

The roots of politicisation of the army are to be found in Nehru's hatred for the man in uniform. Soon after Independence the first commander-in-chief of the Indian armed forces, General Sir Robert Lockhart, presented a paper outlining a plan for the growth of the Indian Army to Prime Minister Nehru.

Nehru's reply: "We don't need a defence plan. Our policy is non-violence. We foresee no military threats. You can scrap the army. The police are good enough to meet our security needs."

He didn't waste much time. On September 16, 1947, he directed that the army's then strength of 280,000 be brought down to 150,000. Even in fiscal 1950-51, when the Chinese threat had begun to loom large on the horizon, 50,000 army personnel were sent home as per his original plan to disband the armed forces.

After Independence, he once noticed a few men in uniform in a small office the army had in North Block, and angrily had them evicted.

"I remember many a time when our senior generals came to us, and wrote to the defence ministry saying that they wanted certain things... If we had had foresight, known exactly what would happen, we would have done something else... what India has learnt from the Chinese invasion is that in the world of today there is no place for weak nations... We have been living in an unreal world of our own creation."
Jawaharlal Nehru, Rajya Sabha, 1963

Posted by john 2006-12-02 20:27|| 2006-12-02 20:27|| Front Page Top

#6 The military should petition Congress to preemptively declare San Francisco an open city so that no civilian lives are unnecessarily lost defending it in the event of an invasion.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-12-02 20:34|| 2006-12-02 20:34|| Front Page Top

#7 San Francisco's refusal to provide a homeport for the retired battleship Iowa, which would be turned into a museum

Fucking idiots! Few machines on earth are as impressive as a teak-decked Iowa class battleship. That San Francisco turned down what should easily have become a major tourist attraction and job site is nothing short of idiotic. I've stood on the USS Missouri's deck at the exact spot where Japan's surrender was signed. The like of these boats will never be built again. Despite San Francisco's deservedly poor reputation at the Pentagon, it still remains one of the top-rated shore leave spots on earth. There's a lot of people in the bay area who were part of the WWII ship building and general military service in that era. They still have a lot of respect for those who serve our nation, even if our moron politicians do not.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2006-12-02 21:54|| 2006-12-02 21:54|| Front Page Top

#8 Try Alameda. Or Oakland.

Posted by Wheager Unung4824 2006-12-02 22:10|| 2006-12-02 22:10|| Front Page Top

#9 With a conflict of interest, I have to welcome the Makin Island to San Diego (hometown and current location). In fact, I actually talked to some folks about grabbing the Iowa for San Diego when SF f**ked that situation up. I'm afraid an east bay city might have moved in on it - but nothing would match the combo of the Midway downtown, and the Iowa on the south bay waterfront, all basking in this perfect climate .....

(and now I'll have to go re-read all about the Makin Island raid)

Posted by Verlaine 2006-12-02 22:34|| 2006-12-02 22:34|| Front Page Top

#10 Considering that the Bay area lost nearly all its military installations thanks to that region's attitude (and its politicians), the commissioning-veto is the cherry on the just-dessert.

Posted by Pappy 2006-12-02 22:37|| 2006-12-02 22:37|| Front Page Top

#11 The ship's website is here.

Posted by Mike 2006-12-03 13:07|| 2006-12-03 13:07|| Front Page Top

#12 hola Verlaine! Welcome to our fair city :-)

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2006-12-03 13:37|| 2006-12-03 13:37|| Front Page Top

#13 damn....I should've read ~~better~~ deeper. Welcome back! LOL

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2006-12-03 13:40|| 2006-12-03 13:40|| Front Page Top

#14 Too bad the Army turned over the Presidio instead of turning it into a bombing range or chemical weapons dump.

Posted by ed 2006-12-03 14:47|| 2006-12-03 14:47|| Front Page Top

#15 Too bad the Army turned over the Presidio instead of turning it into a bombing range or chemical weapons dump.

Because of corrupt pork barrel politicians, too bad DoD didn't get an opportunity to bid the land to commercial interests. Would have brought a pretty penny into the Treasury. Instead the ungrateful parasites got a gift.

Posted by Procopius2k 2006-12-03 16:42|| 2006-12-03 16:42|| Front Page Top

#16 Pappy, What military activities are left in NC except the Blue Cube and Mare Island?

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-12-03 16:54|| 2006-12-03 16:54|| Front Page Top

#17 here's the CA list

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2006-12-03 17:06|| 2006-12-03 17:06|| Front Page Top

#18 Interesting list. Onizuka AFB isn't on it but the Presidio is. Time to update.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-12-03 20:21|| 2006-12-03 20:21|| Front Page Top

#19 Instead the ungrateful parasites got a gift.

Pretty much what hapened with most of the installations. Murtha swung, or tried to swing, Hunter's Point to one of Pelosi's relatives.

Posted by Pappy 2006-12-03 21:49|| 2006-12-03 21:49|| Front Page Top

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