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2006-08-02 Israel-Palestine-Jordan

Israels Surprise Raid of Baalbek Is No Panacea for Tactical Ills

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Posted by Steve 2006-08-02 09:19|| || Front Page|| [6 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 better in fact that any Arab army has ever achieved in the past

Wow, that good? Old Groucho Marx line: "I started out without a nickel in my pocket and now, after twenty years of hard work, I've got a nickel in my pocket."

Posted by Matt 2006-08-02 10:02|| 2006-08-02 10:02|| Front Page Top

#2 Debka, Debka, would you like a saucer of milk? MEEEEOOOOW!

Steve's green comments nailed it. After this pitiful display of envy and spite - the answer to the mysterious question re: WHO IS DEBKA? is finally crystal clear. Not a pretty display.

At least they did manage to rise beyond their petty jealousies over not being in charge and pull it together in the last paragraph, which really should have been the lead. Boys, boys, get pull yourselves together. Maybe they will need you enough to call you back and you can be in the game once again.

Posted by 2b 2006-08-02 10:03|| 2006-08-02 10:03|| Front Page Top

#3 Drawing on the Jenin lesson, Iranian and Hizballah war planners are hammering at the Jewish states most vulnerable point - military losses and loss of life in general. By maximizing Israeli casualties, they believe that Hizballah does not have to win the war;

You heard it from me first (not that you didn't know it already) but this belief is, unfortunately, the Iranian and Hizballah Achilles heel of their war.

Sure, we do care about human life. We will give you ample opportunity to surrender so that your hostages will be safe. We'll even let you keep your own people hostage. But when this war comes down to being between our civilians or your civilians you don't have what it takes to win.

It's time all the civilized world leaders made this point very, very, clear so that we can end this thing (more) peacefully.

Posted by 2b 2006-08-02 10:14|| 2006-08-02 10:14|| Front Page Top

#4 army hampered and slowed down by tactical and intelligence deficiencies

Most advancing armies are "hampered and slowed down by tactical and intelligence deficiences." It is the nature of modern warfare. I have yet to hear a commander say, "thats it, no more intelligence updates, Class I or Class V, I've got all I need. Unless the enemy advances on-line shoulder to shoulder in mass formations this will always be case.

Posted by Besoeker 2006-08-02 10:18|| 2006-08-02 10:18|| Front Page Top

#5 first Debka tends to lean right.

In case youve overlooked it, Likud is in opposition, and doesnt like the Olmert-Peretz govt (though of course they are supportingthe IDF in the war). Its not at all unlikely they will poke at how the war is being executed, militarily.

Posted by liberalhawk 2006-08-02 10:36|| 2006-08-02 10:36|| Front Page Top

#6 Phfft. Just like the right poked fun at Clinton for booming an aspirin factory?

Posted by Iblis">Iblis 2006-08-02 12:01|| 2006-08-02 12:01|| Front Page Top

#7 more like how the right poked at Clinton for Somalia.

Posted by liberalhawk 2006-08-02 12:04|| 2006-08-02 12:04|| Front Page Top

#8 Oh no ! 17 soldiers dead....we've lost ! Oh, the horrors.
So what ? 17 honorable deaths is a good thing. The deaths of many more civilians by incoming rockets is a bad thing.
Fight hard and kill the enemy, damnit, now shut up.

Posted by wxjames 2006-08-02 12:20|| 2006-08-02 12:20|| Front Page Top

#9 Hmmm 17 IDF soldiers down and over 500 Hezbeens and appeasers toes up. The odds look great so far, onward you juuuuz.

Posted by Turbins R4 Pussies 2006-08-02 12:24|| 2006-08-02 12:24|| Front Page Top

#10 Debka is right, actually they are being sympathetic towards a incomptent Governement.

One of headlines of today: 06:03 PDT IDF destroys rocket launcher in Bint Jbail (Jerusalem Post)

Posted by Clerert Uneamp2772 2006-08-02 12:29|| 2006-08-02 12:29|| Front Page Top

#11 uh? someone erased comments and news?

Posted by Clerert Uneamp2772 2006-08-02 13:50|| 2006-08-02 13:50|| Front Page Top

#12 Debka ends up siding close to where Ralph Peters and the Israeli citizenry are.

Given the sorry state of which Lebanon exists today, it's time for Israel for overtake the country (vis-a-vis land for peace).

Otherwise, this battle will never end.

Posted by Captain America 2006-08-02 14:48|| 2006-08-02 14:48|| Front Page Top

#13 This is the first war Israel is fighting against entrenched terrorists instead of national armies in the field. Beyond that, I'll leave commentary to the experts.

Posted by trailing wife 2006-08-02 17:52|| 2006-08-02 17:52|| Front Page Top

#14 With due respect, PLO and Hezbo were not national armies pre-2000 and beyond.

Southern Lebanon is forboding terrain, both for airpower and armor, requiring heavy infantry.

One exceptable reason for going light for the first two weeks was that the Israelis were trying to learn about the tactics being employed by Hezbo. However, to take such tough terrain and move the Hezbos back requires considerable investment in troops.

Posted by Captain America 2006-08-02 21:14|| 2006-08-02 21:14|| Front Page Top

#15 I thought of those more as an ongoing police action, Captain America. This is a real war... finally!

Posted by trailing wife 2006-08-02 23:17|| 2006-08-02 23:17|| Front Page Top

#16 But I do like your explanation -- quite helpful. :-)

Posted by trailing wife 2006-08-02 23:18|| 2006-08-02 23:18|| Front Page Top

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