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2006-07-31 Israel-Palestine-Jordan

IDF: Qana building fell hours after strike

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Posted by gorb 2006-07-31 02:04|| || Front Page|| [7 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Why focus on this one incident? The Shiite-Sunni battles in Iraq are costing thousands of lives each month. What are the Eurabians saying about that? Other than blaming the US for internal social divisions.

Posted by Snease Shaiting3550 2006-07-31 09:08|| 2006-07-31 09:08|| Front Page Top

#2 Media prop right on schedule.

Posted by SamAdamsky 2006-07-31 09:11|| 2006-07-31 09:11|| Front Page Top

#3 This fills in the blanks.

http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Diplomacy/8997.htm

Posted by Bright Pebbles 2006-07-31 09:19|| 2006-07-31 09:19|| Front Page Top

#4 'cus it is the eeeevil jooooooos fighting. That is why. Everything is first Israel's fault, then the Jews, then the USA.

Posted by DarthVader 2006-07-31 09:50|| 2006-07-31 09:50|| Front Page Top

#5 It's very possible that the bomb hits weakened the building, and it just collapsed later. It's still Hezbollah's fault for setting up a battery in a civillian area.

Posted by Mike 2006-07-31 10:00|| 2006-07-31 10:00|| Front Page Top

#6 Many skeptical observations here

Posted by gorb 2006-07-31 14:33|| 2006-07-31 14:33|| Front Page Top

#7 My money's on the Baseej having a hand in this.

Posted by Jake-the-peg">Jake-the-peg 2006-07-31 15:34|| 2006-07-31 15:34|| Front Page Top

#8 From gorb's link:

Their faces were ashen gray. While medical examination clearly is called for to arrive at a definitive dating and cause of their deaths, they do not appear to have died hours before. The bodies looked like they had been dead for days.

I'm no expert on dead bodies, but that was my reaction as well. Looks like the whole thing was staged.

Posted by phil_b">phil_b 2006-07-31 16:10|| http://autonomousoperation.blogspot.com/]">[http://autonomousoperation.blogspot.com/] 2006-07-31 16:10|| Front Page Top

#9 I wondered about the stiffness of some of the bodies, so looked up Rigor Mortis.

Assuming mild temperatures, rigour usually sets in about 3-4 hours after clinical death, with full rigour being in effect at about 12 hours, and eventually subsiding to relaxation at about 36 hours. Times for the onset of rigour mortis can vary from a few minutes to several hours depending on the temperature of the environment in which the body is found.

Posted by Tony (UK) 2006-07-31 16:21|| 2006-07-31 16:21|| Front Page Top

#10 OK, we've got our own resident physician. Dr. White, any observations about the photographs of the bodies on display? Some do look rather grayer and stiffer than others.

EU Referendum also has some archival shots of Mr. Green Helmet at the scene of an attack on children in 1996 by the evil Joooos.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-07-31 16:44|| 2006-07-31 16:44|| Front Page Top

#11 Merely another button on the coat. The IDF needs to concentrate on one thing only, namely wasting Hezbollah so regularly you can set your watch by it.

Posted by Zenster 2006-07-31 17:47|| 2006-07-31 17:47|| Front Page Top

#12 I didn't see a lot of blood on the bodies, sheets, ground, or rescuers. As a layman, I expect the bodies to have visible signs of being crushed to death. What I see are whole, uncrushed bodies, that may well have been killed by a concussion at another location. Before I was thinking they collapsed the building on live people. Now I'm beginning to think they stocked the building with bodies and demolished it, which would be much more "palatable" to the terrorists and their supporters. I didn't see any signs of maggots or decomposition, but I'm just looking at pictures. That would suggest these deaths are recent or, unlikely, the bodies were refrigerated. The whole thing, from beginning to end, just has the markings of a what may well have been a trap. And they've been know to have done this kind of thing before almost exactly with that incident involving the "beach shelling" in Israel. Except there they used live terrorists to play the dead bodies.

If all this turns out to be an act, I wouldn't be surprised if half of the point of this would be to pass their hate down to their children to validate their stupid ideology. That would be desperate.

It would be interesting to match families who claimed to lose relatives to DNA of the bodies. We already know it's OK to exhume the bodies to move them from the statements made at the mass gravesites in Beirut . . . .

Posted by gorb 2006-07-31 17:49|| 2006-07-31 17:49|| Front Page Top

#13 But by then it will be way too late to make a difference. The MSM, the UN etc. have already bought this hook line and sinker, because it's what they want to believe. Even if there were conclusive proof it was faked, not only would they not retract what they have said, they would carry on saying, because for them belief is more important than facts or the truth, and they believe Israel is culpable.

Posted by phil_b">phil_b 2006-07-31 20:31|| http://autonomousoperation.blogspot.com/]">[http://autonomousoperation.blogspot.com/] 2006-07-31 20:31|| Front Page Top

#14 Be interesting to do an explosive residue analysis of the building.

Posted by ed 2006-07-31 23:47|| 2006-07-31 23:47|| Front Page Top

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