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Over 600 Suspected Taliban Killed in Southern Afghanistan
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KABUL, Afghanistan —
More than 600 suspected Taliban militants have been killed since a U.S.-led offensive began last month in southern Afghanistan, a coalition spokesman said Tuesday. Col. Tom Collins said the 600 militants have died in combat since Operation Mountain Thrust started June 10. The offensive is aimed at crushing the deadliest spate of Taliban violence since the hard-line regime's 2001 ouster.
Maybe it's our Dread Spring Offensive instead of the Talibunnies?
More than 10,000 U.S.-led troops have been operating in former Taliban strongholds across southern Afghanistan. The region has witnessed the brunt of the deadliest upsurge in Taliban-led violence since the hard-line regime's 2001 ouster. The bloodshed also threatens to spread into previously calm western Afghan provinces.
If the bloodshed keeps spreading at this rate we may have to face the fact....we're winning
Posted by: Steve || 07/25/2006 13:23 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [435 views] Top|| File under:

#1  OUCH! That is quite a body count for the taliwackers. How long before they are completely combat inefficiant?
Posted by: DarthVader || 07/25/2006 13:43 Comments || Top||

#2  The coalition should make taking care of their bodies a big once-a-month affair, and the line of caskets should get all kinds of press coverage. Make a big production-line thing out of it. Land a couple of C5s in Pakistan and meet them with a fleet of forklifts where they haul palletload after palletload off to semi trailers for transportation to a mass grave because their names are unknown. Might drive the point home better that way.
Posted by: gorb || 07/25/2006 13:50 Comments || Top||

#3  Dick Durbin signed their death sentence. No Gitmo means no taking prisoners. Democrats wanting to save the terrorist's lives, actually ended up killing them. It was all a Jedi mind control thingy planned by Rove.
Posted by: Poison Reverse || 07/25/2006 14:09 Comments || Top||

#4  They've always been combat inefficient.
How many wounded with that 600 dead ?
Also, and more importantly, how many have gone back to poppy farming or fishing.
Posted by: wxjames || 07/25/2006 14:25 Comments || Top||

#5  Few wounded I think. I haven't heard of many prisoners being taken.
Posted by: buwaya || 07/25/2006 14:27 Comments || Top||

#6  I just wonder how long it will be until we give up the euphamisms and say "More than 600 suspected Taliban Pakistani militants..."
Posted by: Anonymoose || 07/25/2006 16:33 Comments || Top||

#7  Wait a minute. 40 a day into a total of 600 is 15 days. What were they doing the other 30 days?
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 07/25/2006 17:00 Comments || Top||

#8  "More than 600 suspected Taliban militants have been killed"

Now we're getting someplace....
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 07/25/2006 17:47 Comments || Top||

#9  Observing the appropriate islamic cultural traditions for so many dead muz.

We gotta be sensitive, don't you know.
Posted by: kelly || 07/25/2006 17:49 Comments || Top||

#10  Plant them in the suspected poppy fields near the alleged suspected borders.
Posted by: Inspector Clueso || 07/25/2006 19:37 Comments || Top||

#11  Don't forget, the Taliban take a lot of dead bodies with them when they retreat. This number may well only be those they dropped along the way because they had too many to carry. And, this only counts those who died in combat since June 10th as a result of Op. Mountain Thrust (bad, bad punster!). Lots of others died elsewhere, I'm sure.
Posted by: trailing wife || 07/25/2006 19:55 Comments || Top||

#12  Dead jihadis
Dead jihadis
Dead jihadis aren't much fun

They don't heed
The mullah's call
They don't blow up things at all
Dead jihadis aren't much fun
(oh no no)

They won't fight, they won't seethe
They'll play dead,
'cause they don't breathe
Dead jihadis aren't much fun

Dead jihadis
Dead jihadis
Dead jihadis aren't much fun.

A jihadi died late last Fall
He's still lying
in the hall
Dead jihadis aren't much fun
(no no no)

Mom cheers jihadi's days are through
he'll never kill
another Jew
Dead Jihadis aren't much fun

Dead jihadis
(dead dead dead)
Dead jihadis
(dead dead dead)
Dead jihadis aren't much fun.

[with apologies to Ogden Edsel and Dr. Demento]
Posted by: Pappy || 07/25/2006 20:30 Comments || Top||

#13  LOL, Pappy - it sings to me.
Posted by: cruiser || 07/25/2006 20:32 Comments || Top||

#14  Pappy! i will be singing that all the rest of the day & probably tomorrow. :-)))))
Posted by: Adriane || 07/25/2006 23:03 Comments || Top||

13 killed in Afghanistan
Two coalition soldiers were badly wounded in the latest of a wave of Taliban-linked suicide attacks in southern Afghanistan on Monday, while 13 people died in other violence. The soldiers were travelling in a convoy of US-led coalition and Afghan army vehicles outside Kandahar when a suicide attacker detonated a van filled with explosives, sending his body parts across the blast site, the coalition said.

In another incident, three policemen were killed and seven wounded in western Farah province when hundreds of militants attacked a police post just after midnight, sparking three hours of heavy fighting, the Interior Ministry said. In the same province, security forces shot dead three men on a motorbike who failed to stop at a check post and were believed to be planning a suicide attack, ministry spokesman Yousuf Stanizai said. After the shooting, police took the motorbike to a military base where an undetected bomb planted on it exploded, wounding a man and two of his children, Stanizai said.

In neighbouring Ghor province meanwhile the bullet-riddled bodies of an Afghan pharmacist working for international relief group World Vision and his driver were found dumped outside their vehicle late on Sunday. On the other side of the country, attackers hurled grenades into the home of a village postman in eastern Khost province, killing three of his daughters, a district chief said, linking the Taliban to the incident. In eastern Afghanistan, an attacker travelling in a taxi from Pakistan exploded two grenades at a border police checkpoint in Khost province late on Sunday, killing a civilian and wounding three others, police said.
Posted by: Fred || 07/25/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [327 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Oh Lions of Islam - slayers of relief pharmacists and daughters of postmen; it takes great strength of will to overcome your natural revulsion at committing such acts: Allan will reward you well.
Posted by: glenmore || 07/25/2006 7:24 Comments || Top||

#2  Allan will reward you well.
Yep, got a nice, ringside seat, right in the MIDDLE of the fire for ya!
Posted by: Old Patriot || 07/25/2006 14:26 Comments || Top||

Africa Horn
Somalia minister denies Ethiopians in Baidoa
(SomaliNet) The information minister of transitional federal government Mohamed Abdi Hayir known as 'Mareie' has strongly denied on Sunday that Ethiopian troops had entered in Somalia particular in Baidoa town 240km southwest of Somalia. In press conference held in Baidoa, temporarily capital of TFG, Mr. Abdi Hayir dismissed the reports on Ethiopian troops in Somalia territory as untrue and baseless assertion made by the media.
Posted by: Fred || 07/25/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [455 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Baghdad Bob is back as Mogadishu Mohamed. Good laughs.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 07/25/2006 7:30 Comments || Top||

#2  This isn't the Islamists. It's the "government".

They're not soldiers. They're... Boy Scouts. Yeah, Boy Scouts. That's the ticket.
Posted by: Chuck Simmins || 07/25/2006 8:36 Comments || Top||

#3  Boy Scouts, yep, one and all. Holding their annual Summer Jamboree in Baidoa, complete with AK-47s, 82mm mortars, machine guns, and 106mm recoilless rifles. That Boy Scout Motto, "Be Prepared" and all...
Posted by: Old Patriot || 07/25/2006 14:28 Comments || Top||

#4  Definitely not OA, I see no Cheerful Service here.
Posted by: 6 || 07/25/2006 14:35 Comments || Top||

#5  Mohamed Abdi Hayir known as 'Mareie'


I thought they frowned on that sort of thing, Betty...
Posted by: mojo || 07/25/2006 15:45 Comments || Top||

#6  ... the dawn is breaking...
Posted by: Fred || 07/25/2006 18:32 Comments || Top||

Ethiopia pours more troops into Baidoa
(SomaliNet) Additional troops from Ethiopia have reached on Sunday in the provincial town of Baidoa in southwest of the Somalia capital to enforce the former soldiers already there to protect the weak Somali interim government from any possible attack from Islamic Courts — this mounts the fear of possible confrontation between government troops and Islamists.

Helicopters were bringing troops in the airstrip of Baidoa town while the surveillance Ethiopian airplanes were flying over Baidoa, which is temporarily capital of transitional federal government, local witnesses told Somalinet. Local official who declined not to be identified his name said the Ethiopian forces have extended their power in most of Bay and Bakol regions in preparation to wage war against Islamic militiamen.
Posted by: Fred || 07/25/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [476 views] Top|| File under:

#1  (SomaliNet)
Words fail.

Posted by: 6 || 07/25/2006 11:02 Comments || Top||

Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia
Unpredictable Results in Kodori Gorge
Deputy chief commander of the Russian infantry forces Lieut. Gen. Valery Evnevich warned on Tuesday that the outcome of troop movements in Kodori Gorge in Abkhazia is unpredictable. He said that a column of Georgian forces is now located near Khobi Pass but cannot proceed because the road was washed out by rains.

The Russian Foreign Ministry has issued a statement saying that “This is a matter of a serious breach of the 1994 Moscow Agreement on a ceasefire and separation of the parties. That district directly borders on Russian territory and events there [in Kodori Gorge] touch on Russian security.” Georgia began its military actions against Abkhazia in the early 1990s from Kodori Gorge.

The Russian Foreign Ministry noted that Georgia also failed to inform the UN observer mission in Abkhazia of its actions and that it advanced 30 KamAZ truck, 18 Niva off-road vehicles and 4 UAZ trucks through the peacekeepers' post No. 302 in spite of efforts to stop the column.

Moscow is “carefully following events unfolding in Kodori Gorge, in the Russian border zone and in Abkhazia and calls on the Georgian side to abstain from armed actions that could provoke a new conflict in the region,” the Russian Foreign Ministry statement concludes.
Posted by: Steve || 07/25/2006 13:14 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [313 views] Top|| File under:

#1  He said that a column of Georgian forces is now located near Khobi Pass but cannot proceed because the road was washed out by rains.

2nd world armies without support for 1000 pls.
Posted by: 6 || 07/25/2006 17:20 Comments || Top||

A kidnapper of the Orthodox priest detained in Chechnya
A militant involved in kidnapping of an Orthodox priest has been detained in Chechnya, a source in the Republican Ministry of Internal Affairs told Interfax on Saturday. According to the source, a local of the village of Samashki, Achkhoi-Martan district, suspect of involvement in kidnapping of Rev. Sergy Potapov from Assinovskaya stanitsa on 6 May 1999, was detained during a special operation. The detained made a confessionary statement of his involvement in kidnapping of Rev. Sergy and of a businessman from a neighbouring region. The identities of other persons involved in the kidnapping are being established.
Posted by: Fred || 07/25/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [319 views] Top|| File under:

2 policemen dead in south Russia operation
Two police officers and one gunman have been killed in an operation to apprehend a group of militants in Russia's North Caucasus republic of Daghestan, local police said. A spokesman said one officer had also been injured.

The Interior Ministry press-service said a group of three gunmen had been surrounded early Monday in a forested area in the Khasavyurt region, which borders on Chechnya. Previous reports suggested the group had been holed up in a house. The press service said that the militants were accomplices of warlord Rapani Khalilov, who is wanted in connection with a 2002 bombing in the town of Kaspiisk that left 43 people dead.
Posted by: Fred || 07/25/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [333 views] Top|| File under:

Down Under
Australian peacekeepers may be headed for Lebanon
AUSTRALIA would participate in an international peacekeeping mission to Lebanon only if it guaranteed to help secure a long-term settlement, Prime Minister John Howard said today. As Australian evacuation efforts in Lebanon wind down, Mr Howard has indicated Australia would consider any request to join a United Nations force but there would have to be definite outcomes from the mission.

"We would consider it," he told ABC Radio. "I'd want to know what the conditions are. I'd want to know what the objective is. I'd want to know that it's going to make a contribution to a long-term settlement. The problem in the Middle East is there is never an attempt to bring about a long-term settlement. The fundamental cause of the current outbreak is the refusal of the entire Arab world to accept Israel's right to exist."

Meanwhile, the Government is warning Australians wanting to leave Lebanon to get on board chartered ships today because there may be no further vessels organised. The Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade (DFAT) says no further ships will leave the war-torn country after today.

EU foreign and security affairs chief Javier Solana has said that sending an international peacekeeping force to Lebanon would be a difficult but crucial part of an overall solution to end the country's political instability. Mr Solana said it was not easy to put together an international peacekeeping force but that "several European Union nations" would contribute troops and hardware.

UN chief Kofi Annan said he would press for a truce and establishment of a buffer force at a crisis meeting on Lebanon in Rome on Wednesday. Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, who is to meet Rice today, has said would accept a peacekeeping force in Lebanon made up of troops from EU nations.
Posted by: Oztralian || 07/25/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [320 views] Top|| File under:

#1  So much about UN "peacekeeping" would have to change first. The ROE, the force levels and armament, the actual mission with no "creep", command authority, etc.. Being either shooting gallery bears or useless tits on a boar hog, i.e. what has passed for this in the past, just don't cut it. Stinks, John. Go real slow, buddy.
Posted by: cruiser || 07/25/2006 2:30 Comments || Top||

#2  Australian peacekepers are heading for Lebanon in order to protect those who would gladly kill a thousand Australian civilians and who have been giving demos of Lebanese rape to Australian women. Anyone understands?
Posted by: JFM || 07/25/2006 3:01 Comments || Top||

#3  Feel good politics, I reckon.
Posted by: twobyfour || 07/25/2006 3:22 Comments || Top||

#4  I can't forget the story of the 47 Irish peacekeepers killed there since 1978.

I certainly don't wanna see any of our Aussie mates used up and spit out that way.

Why not send Zimbabwean "veterans"? No one gives a toss about them.
Posted by: JDB || 07/25/2006 4:10 Comments || Top||

#5  AUSTRALIA would participate in an international peacekeeping mission to Lebanon only if it guaranteed to help secure a long-term settlement. "The problem in the Middle East is there is never an attempt to bring about a long-term settlement. The fundamental cause of the current outbreak is the refusal of the entire Arab world to accept Israel's right to exist."

The good Prime Minister gets it. And he's laying it out for everyone else. The only thing that could be more clear would be saying, "We aren't interested in another hudna -- call us when the various parties have signed peace treaties with Israel."
Posted by: trailing wife || 07/25/2006 7:05 Comments || Top||

#6  Fox reported this morning that the UN spends 100 million dollars a year on the "Observers" in South Lebannon. Usless Ninnies.
Posted by: Deacon Blues || 07/25/2006 7:30 Comments || Top||

#7  So many pots of gold (to loot), so few rainbows.
Posted by: cruiser || 07/25/2006 7:37 Comments || Top||

#8  The Aussies should be invited to the States for a holiday first. There's plenty of time for peacekeeping later. Don't want to rush into this peacekeeping stuff without a great deal of forethought and consideration. Besides, the Israelis have a great deal of preparations to do before any peacekeeping can really be done. What's the hurry. Have some cheesecake and tea. Have a bagel and creamcheese.
Posted by: JohnQC || 07/25/2006 7:46 Comments || Top||

#9  We should send a large compliment of special forces and a whop of F-18's and maybe a few frigates to assist the Israelis, no peacekeepers are required.
Posted by: GizzardPuke || 07/25/2006 8:27 Comments || Top||

#10  TW, you called it. Howard is saying with a real solution we are there. Otherwise, it's a blatherfest.
Posted by: phil_b || 07/25/2006 9:15 Comments || Top||

#11  long-term settlement

An oxymoron in that part of the world I'm afraid.
Posted by: Besoeker || 07/25/2006 9:51 Comments || Top||

#12  This is a joke, right? I mean, you guys aren't really that dumb.
Posted by: mojo || 07/25/2006 9:53 Comments || Top||

#13  What JohnQC said.
Need to get the acclimated too. 12 weeks or so in Arizona, a month in Central Florida. Cross training in beautiful Beaufort.....
Posted by: 6 || 07/25/2006 11:06 Comments || Top||

Need to get the acclimated too. 12 weeks or so in Arizona, a month in Central Florida. Cross training in beautiful Beaufort...

Twelve weeks in monument Valley (Arizona), a month in Disneyland (Florida), cross training with Americans on drinking each other's beers in beautiful Beaufort. And then back to Australia.
Posted by: JFM || 07/25/2006 11:44 Comments || Top||

#15  Use this as an Oppurtunity to help the displaced in Dafur. Train them how to fight here (in lebanon), then send them back to the Sudan, able to fight for themselves.
Posted by: plainslow || 07/25/2006 12:42 Comments || Top||

Court told Australian terror suspects inspired by Bin Laden
MELBOURNE: Thirteen men arrested in Australia's largest ever counter-terrorism operation were strongly inspired by Osama Bin Laden and were involved in a plot to make explosives, a court heard Monday. Crown prosecutor Mark Dean said one of the men, Shane Kent, underwent weapons and explosives training at Al Qaeda's Al Farooq camp in Afghanistan and was committed to jihad, or holy war. Dean described another of the 13 men, cleric Abdul Nacer Benbrika as the spiritual leader of the group and recounted an alleged conversation in which he urged others to wreak havoc.

"If we want to die for jihad we have to do maximum damage, maximum damage, damage to their buildings and everything and damage their lives. Just to show them that's what we have been waiting for. You have to be careful. Trust no one," Dean quoted the cleric as saying.

The 13 men face a range of charges including membership of a terrorist organisation and financing and supporting a terrorist organisation. The committal hearing, at which the prosecution outlines its case, is likely to last around a month at Melbourne's Victorian County Court. Dean said the men, all from Melbourne, were helping a group of terrorist suspects in Sydney purchase laboratory equipment to make explosives.
Posted by: Fred || 07/25/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [317 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Bring back hanging-SCUM!!!!!
Posted by: Cheregum Crelet7867 || 07/25/2006 6:31 Comments || Top||

#2  I couldn't agree more, CC. Hang them in the most public place possible, put big signs up explaining why they're hanging around, and have a dozen or so snipers nearby to take out anyone that tries to make these scum "martyrs".
Posted by: Old Patriot || 07/25/2006 14:36 Comments || Top||

#3  And bathe them in pig's blood before you do.
Posted by: DarthVader || 07/25/2006 16:13 Comments || Top||

#4  bungee-jump them off sydney harbour bridge using pig entrails as the cord. Preferably by pink feather boa wearing tached muscle men during sydneys gay parade, then threaten the same to any other jihadi fucks who would like to come to auzzie land
Posted by: pihkalbadger || 07/25/2006 19:15 Comments || Top||

Accused cleric hoped to 'kill 1000'
SUBURBAN Islamic cleric Abdul Nacer Benbrika wanted to kill 1000 Australians to "please Allah" and had the support of a blond recruit who had pledged violent jihad during a meeting with Osama bin Laden.

A Melbourne court heard yesterday that a witness would reveal that Shane Kent, 29, received weapons and explosives training at the Taliban-run al-Faruq training camp for foreign jihadis in Afghanistan. And at a meeting with bin Laden in that country, Mr Kent, from Meadow Heights in Melbourne's north, allegedly committed himself to violent jihad. The alleged Melbourne terror cell's spiritual leader, Mr Benbrika embraced Mr Kent as part of his clique, the court heard, saying: "He's good, and he doesn't talk too much."
"and he's got a purdy mouth"

Mr Benbrika encouraged his devotees to plan a large-scale terrorist attack, which police foiled during its "developmental stages", the court heard during the opening day of the committal hearing of 13 suspects yesterday. "If you kill, we kill here 1000," Mr Benbrika allegedly said in a conversation covertly taped by police. "Because if you get large numbers here, the government will listen."
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Posted by: ed || 07/25/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [508 views] Top|| File under:

#1  F*ck the smuck.
Posted by: JohnQC || 07/25/2006 7:48 Comments || Top||

#2  Do the Auzzies have the capital punishment? 12 jihadis would make a nice public hanging.
Posted by: Cyber Sarge || 07/25/2006 10:29 Comments || Top||

#3  Religious handbooks found allegedly included one entitled 'The Islamic Ruling with Regard to the Killing of Women, Children and the Elderly in a Situation of War'

It's not really a book, ya see. It's more like a pamphlet. Hmmm..that's not right either...really it's more of a fatwa. Think of it as..ummm..er..a guideline of sorts. I guess it's more of a slogan when you think about it. Ahhh...fuck it... when it comes right down to it...it's pretty much anything goes.
Posted by: DepotGuy || 07/25/2006 12:04 Comments || Top||

#4  It's an instruction manual. Like "To Serve Man"...
Posted by: tu3031 || 07/25/2006 12:21 Comments || Top||

Pakistanis: Cleric's Killer Bangladeshi
KARACHI, Pakistan (AP) - Police on Tuesday said the suicide bomber who killed a prominent Shiite Muslim cleric last week was Bangladeshi and arrested three Pakistani Sunni militants accused of planning the attack.
Illegal immigrant Bangladeshis doing jobs you can't get a Pakistani to do
Cleric Allama Hassan Turabi was killed by a suicide bomber outside his home in the southern port city of Karachi on July 21. Turabi's cousin and a police guard also died in the sectarian attack.

Sindh provincial police chief, Jehangir Mirza, told reporters that police, acting on a tip, raided a Karachi home early Tuesday and detained three men on suspicion of involvement in the attack. Mirza said the men confessed to preparing a 16-year-old Bangladeshi acquaintance, Abdul Karim, to carry out the attack several hours before it took place.
Running out of locals to brain-wash? They must have all gone to summer camp in Afghanistan
Police found at the house a videotape showing a male claiming to be Karim addressing his family by saying: "I am performing a noble task. Don't worry about me. I will meet you in heaven." Karim said he was going to "kill the chief infidel," but didn't mention Turabi's name.

The grainy video, which was played to journalists Tuesday, showed Karim wearing a headscarf and holding a pistol. He also wore what appeared to be an explosives-packed vest with at least two hand grenades dangling from its front.

Earlier Tuesday, the three detainees led police to the home of Karim's parents, who recognized him from a still photograph taken from the video. Karim's mother said she hadn't seen her son in two weeks, Mirza said. "I think she was not aware of the fate of her son, and she learned it only from the police," Mirza said.
That's what happens when you let your kids play at the mosque, they come home in ziplock bags

The detained trio were identified Mohammed Amin, Sultan Mahmood and Mohammed Rahman and they belonged to outlawed Pakistani militant groups Lashkar-e-Jhangvi, Sipah-e-Saha and Jaish-e-Mohammed respectively, Mirza said. The three also confessed to taking part in a failed April 6 attempt to kill Turabi, he said. Turabi's killing sparked massive riots with hundreds of mourners, mostly youths, setting fire to a Pizza Hut, two gas stations and a dozen vehicles.
Posted by: Steve || 07/25/2006 14:23 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [320 views] Top|| File under:

Seven hurt in grenade blast in revolt-hit Indian Kashmir
SRINAGAR, India - Seven civilians were hurt Tuesday in a grenade blast triggered by suspected Muslim rebels at a bus stand along a tourist route in insurgency-wracked Indian Kashmir, police said. “Seven people were wounded when a grenade explosion took place at a small, busy bus stand at Narbal,” a police spokesman said. Narbal, just north of summer capital Srinagar, lies on a road to the tourist resorts of Tangmarg and Gulmarg.

The police spokesman said authorities were seeking a motive for the blast and did not know whether it was linked to a recent spate of attacks against tourists that has come amid an overall rise in violence in Indian Kashmir. Some 15 tourists have died in the attacks blamed by police on militants.

Police announced on the weekend they had arrested the alleged mastermind of the attacks which began in May on the tourists and claimed he belongs to the guerrilla group Lashkar-e-Taiba. But militant outfits, including Lashkar, have condemned the tourist attacks.
Posted by: Steve || 07/25/2006 09:19 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [326 views] Top|| File under:

Bombay police arrest 2 more suspects of train bombings
BOMBAY, India - Investigators have arrested two more suspects in connection with the July 11 bombings on the Bombay commuter rail network that claimed more than 200 lives, a television report said on Tuesday. The report from the private New Delhi Television channel said two men, one a Bombay keymaker and the other from the nearby city of Pune, had been arrested. No details were given on how they were said to be connected to the blasts, which killed 207 people and wounded another 800.

NDTV identified the two as Jameer Ahmed from Bombay, and Sohail Sheikh from Pune. Ahmed, the channel said, had been trained in Pakistan. Four men have already been arrested in connection with the blasts, and police have said at least some are linked to Pakistan-based militant groups. Police refused to confirm Tuesday that additional arrests had been made.

Bombay police have questioned hundreds of people over the past two weeks in connection with the carefully coordinated blasts, but have come under increasing pressure from lawmakers, the public and the media to crack the case.

On Monday, police arrested a Bombay-based practitioner of traditional Unani medicine, who they said was trained in Pakistan to make bombs. The suspect, identified as Tanvir Ahmed Ansari, appeared in a Bombay court, where the judge remanded him to police custody until Aug. 4.
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LeT module busted with Tanvir's arrest: Police
With the arrest of Tanvir Ansari in the Mumbai serial blasts case, police on Monday claimed to have busted an important sleeper module of Lashkar-e-Taiba in the city. Ansari, a Unani medicine practitioner at a local hospital, had allegedly undergone training in weapons handling and explosives at the LeT camps at Bahawalpur in Pakistan and Muzafarabad in Pak-occupied Kashmir in 2004, police said. "Thirty-three-year-old Ansari is an ideologue and motivator for LeT members in Mumbai and adjoining areas," a senior official of the Anti- Terrorist Squad (ATS), which arrested him on Sunday night said.

Since his return to Mumbai from Pakistan in early 2005, Ansari has been dormant and resumed his job as a resident medical officer at Sabu Siddiqui Hospital in central Mumbai, the officer said. But in the past few months, a top LeT leader had been pursuing Ansari to 'do something' in Mumbai, the official said quoting intelligence inputs. He will now be interrogated to find out his role in the serial blasts, the officer said. A graduate from Nagpur, Ansari visited Tehran in 2004 on the pretext of some personal work. From Tehran he allegedly moved to Bahawalpur in Pakistan by road and attended a LeT camp in operating AK-47 rifles, stengun, grenade launchers and even stinger missiles, sources said.
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#1  "Cell", guys. The word is "cell"...
Posted by: mojo || 07/25/2006 9:54 Comments || Top||

Mumbai blast probe: ‘Key conspirator received ammunition training in Pakistan’
MUMBAI: Indian police on Monday formally confirmed having arrested a Mumbai-based doctor on suspicion of involvement in this month’s train blasts, saying that he had received explosives training in Pakistan. Tanvir Ansari, a doctor of traditional Indian (Unani) medicine, was picked up by the crime branch of the city’s police late on Saturday, Police Inspector Sunil Deshmukh said. “We have arrested him on suspicion, for further interrogation. He has undergone training in Pakistan.” Ansari was formally placed under house arrest late on Sunday.

Handcuffed and with a black hood covering his face, Ansari was escorted by police on Monday through a crowd of television reporters to a court in central Mumbai to hear the 11 charges against him, including murder and violation of laws relating to explosives and the railways. The judge remanded Ansari to police custody until August 4.

Police last week arrested three men, all Indian Muslims, for their alleged role in the series of bombings that ripped through first-class carriages of Mumbai’s commuter trains and platforms, killing 200 people. The chief of Mumbai’s anti-terrorism squad said the authorities believed that Ansari had gone to Pakistan in 2004, where he learned how to make bombs as well as how to use arms and ammunition. “He is one of the key conspirators and we are assessing his role,” KP Raghuvanshi told reporters, hinting that information obtained from the four suspects could result in more arrests in the coming days. “We don’t want to hurry up the process of arresting people since it is a sensitive case,” he added. Ansari was among five people picked up for questioning on Saturday.

According to media reports over the weekend, police in other cities in the western state of Maharashtra, of which Mumbai is the capital, have detained several more suspects, including a software engineer in the southern city of Bangalore. Investigators believe that Pakistan-based militant group Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT) and Pakistan’s military spy agency, Inter-Services Intelligence, were behind the attacks. Rejecting the charges as unsubstantiated, Islamabad offered to help New Delhi in the investigation. India rebuffed the offer.
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Three Bugti commanders surrender
DERA BUGTI: Three commanders of Nawab Akbar Khan Bugti and their 17 companions surrendered to the government on Monday. Rehmat Bugti, Attaullah and Gul Hassan and their followers handed over their weapons to Frontier Corps at Haideri check post and announced to support the government.
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LeT trainer arrested
LAHORE: Intelligence agents in Lahore on Monday detained a man who headed a camp for training militants for banned group Lashkar-e-Taiba (LT) in Kashmir, an intelligence official said. Mohammed Shahbaz was taken into custody after agents driving a pickup truck intercepted a car carrying Shahbaz in a street in Lahore, the official said. The official did not have any further details about why Shahbaz may have been detained. Shahbaz was a member of Lashkar-e-Taiaba but severed links with the group in 2003 and set up an Islamic charity, Khairun Nas Trust, or People's Welfare Trust, trust spokesman Mohammed Amir said.
"It's a really easy transition from hard-boy to charity maven. For one thing, the money's better."
Amir said Shahbaz was picked up by several men in plainclothes. In an interview with an Associated Press reporter in Lahore more than a year ago, Shahbaz said that he led a Lashkar-e-Taiaba militant training base in Kashmir. In 2001 Pakistan banned Lashkar-e-Taiaba after India accused it of involvement in a deadly attack on its parliament.
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Coalition Forces Conduct Raid North Of Balad
BAGHDAD, Iraq – Coalition forces killed one terrorist, wounded another and detained one associate during a raid north of Balad on the morning of June 24.

Reliable intelligence indicates that the targeted terrorists were associated with numerous senior al-Qaida in Iraq members including two local Emirs. The group is also reported to be tied to another recently captured individual who had previously led the overall network and has since admitted to countless attacks on Iraqi civilians.

While the troops were moving to the target area they encountered two armed terrorists who attempted to engage the ground force. The ground force immediately engaged the terrorists killing one and wounding the other. The wounded terrorist was provided immediate first aid on site. Multiple men fled the immediate target area upon arrival of the assault force. The ground force then quickly contained and secured the target area. The troops pursued and ultimately detained another suspect.
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Israeli bomb strikes U.N. outpost
Israeli troops sealed off a Hezbollah stronghold Tuesday and widened their foothold in southern Lebanon, but officials said Israeli bombs killed six people in a south Lebanon town and two U.N. observers in a border outpost with two other peacekeepers feared dead. U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan said the strike on the U.N. border outpost was "apparently deliberate" and demanded Israel investigate. A bomb dropped by an Israel warplane scored a direct hit on the post in the town of Khiyam, near the eastern sector of the border, U.N. officials said. Annan said two U.N. military observers were killed with two more were feared dead as rescue workers tried to clear the rubble.
Other stuff at link.
Posted by: GK || 07/25/2006 19:51 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [624 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Report I read said it killed 5 Indian UNIFIL troops.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 07/25/2006 20:01 Comments || Top||

#2  Unarmed but there since 1948 parently. Up to four deaders "apparently deliberitary" targeted cording to Kofi, "deap shock and horror" blue baby duck nonsense is first impressions.
Posted by: pihkalbadger || 07/25/2006 20:03 Comments || Top||

#3  Gotta love the "oops" bomb.
Posted by: Iblis || 07/25/2006 20:07 Comments || Top||

#4  Based upon what I've read here at RB, there is little difference between the UN and HB as they relate to Israel. Payback is a bitch.
Posted by: Mark Z || 07/25/2006 20:25 Comments || Top||

#5  Yeah, but it's just poor Indian grunts who die, not Kofi, Egeland or Malloch Brown.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 07/25/2006 20:26 Comments || Top||

#6  Too bad that can't be fixed, eh, #5 NS?
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 07/25/2006 20:31 Comments || Top||

#7  Another question: What the hell were they doing in the middle of a war zone?

Surely to Allan they didn't think they could keep any peace there, did they?

Actually, I blame Kofi, Egeland, et al. - as well as the Hizzies - for starting this. The "peacekeepers" should have been pulled out as soon as the fighting started.

They were sacrificed by the UN to score points against Israel. More lives to answer for when the Useless Nitwits finally take their last junket - to HELL.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 07/25/2006 20:36 Comments || Top||

#8  Here's what scum bucket Anan had to say:

Secretary-General Kofi Annan said he was "shocked and deeply distressed by the apparently deliberate targeting" of the U.N. post. Two U.N. military observers were dead and two others were feared dead, Annan said in a statement Tuesday night.

He said Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert had assured him that U.N. positions would be spared, and the U.N. force commander, Gen. Alain Pelligrini, had been in contact with Israeli officers throughout the day stressing the need to protect the post.

It seems negligent to me to leave these folks in that kind of position. They should have been evacuated days ago.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 07/25/2006 20:43 Comments || Top||

#9  The silver lining about this is that it is going to make it take longer to put a peacekeeping force together, giving Israel more time to take care of business.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 07/25/2006 20:56 Comments || Top||

#10  Wondering what kind of outrage Annan had after the bombing of the UN embassy in Iraq, I did a little google search. Annan's strongest words against the terrorists that bombed the UN embassy in Iraq, killing their head guy and 14 others.

Secretary-General Kofi Annan denounced as an inexcusable "act of unprovoked and murderous violence.
"I also hope to see those who have perpetrated this outrage brought to justice," he added. "Most of all, I hope to see Iraq restored as soon as possible to peace, security and full independence. The United Nations will make every effort to bring that about."

Something about the rhetoric and the tone don't seem to match for the two incidents. After all, bombing an embassy and killing 14, to me, is a far greatest crime than hitting a remote outpost located in a war zone, that has obviously been under intense fire for at least a week now. And, from what is prolly gonna be, a couple of bombs gone bad, or too early.

Hurry up, January, we need this guy out of here.
Posted by: Sherry || 07/25/2006 21:05 Comments || Top||

#11  ..and, flipping between MSM stations, well, they are just flipping out! Shortly, we will be hearing, "why didn't Bush get those folks out of there?"
Posted by: Sherry || 07/25/2006 21:06 Comments || Top||

#12  Casualties of war... stuff like this is bound to happen.. Notice the big outcry over the deaths ? Nobodies seems to care when these terrorist assholes kidnap innocent civilians and cut their limbs off.

We all know how pathetically useless the U.N is.
Posted by: Oztralian || 07/25/2006 21:26 Comments || Top||

#13  The IDF has been pretty good about their strikes. Perhaps these "military observers" were doing more than observing.
Posted by: Xenophon || 07/25/2006 21:32 Comments || Top||

#14  Like I asked in a different thread.

Observers or Hezbollah spotters?

Its the U.N. after all.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 07/25/2006 21:52 Comments || Top||

#15  Fuck you, Kofi. Too bad you weren't sitting in that hole with them.
If they were doing what they were supposed to be doing over there in the first place, maybe this shit never even starts.
Posted by: tu3031 || 07/25/2006 22:12 Comments || Top||

#16  Those UN posts are putting on the internet IDF troop movements and other information for the world to see, including Hezbullah.

They are also rebuilding roads that the IDF took out to specifically impede the Hezbullah.

Posted by: Chomble Grolutch3348 || 07/25/2006 22:14 Comments || Top||

#17  Apparantly the attack had more than one component, so it was not a 'bad' bomb or shell - the ordnance went where it was intended to go. It could be somebody transmitted/entered an errant coordinate, but that seems too random to just unluckily whack the place. Which leaves us with - the bombs hit a 'target'. Since the Israelis apparantly knew where all the UN facilities were and thus were not likely targetting them 'strategically' one is led to conclude they were targetted by counterbattery radar or observation of a missile truck or such. My guess - Hezbollah moved a launcher in specifically to get the UN post blasted by Israel. Good propaganda, and I believe that is their strongest suit.
Posted by: Glenmore || 07/25/2006 22:18 Comments || Top||

#18  whooops...what are you guys doing here any way...
Posted by: long hair republican || 07/25/2006 22:59 Comments || Top||

Ferocity of Hezbollah comes as a surprise
THE full extent of Hezbollah’s resistance to Israeli ground troops in Lebanon emerged yesterday as returning soldiers and senior commanders admitted they were taken by surprise by the Shia group’s ferocity.

At the same time, a Hezbollah leader has made the startling admission that the group had underestimated Israel’s response to the kidnapping of its two soldiers. “The truth is we didn’t expect this response . . . that (Israel) would exploit this operation for this big war against us,” said Mahmoud Komati, the deputy chief of the Hezbollah politburo.

As they munched watermelon yesterday, sweating Israeli soldiers were visibly shocked by the stiff opposition they had encountered, describing their Hezbollah opponents as a “guerrilla army” with landmines and anti-tank missiles capable of crippling a Merkavah battle tank.

“It was really scary. Most of our armoured personnel carriers have holes,” a paramedic told The Times after recovering three wounded tank soldiers. “It’s a very hard situation. We were in Lebanon before but it wasn’t like this for a long time.” A tank commander said: “It’s a real war.”

In the Galilee town of Safed, Brigadier-General Shuki Shachar, deputy commander of the northern forces, conceded that the foe was not an easy one. “Hezbollah is a fanatical organisation. It is highly motivated to fight. I don’t want to give grades to the enemy, but they are fighting. They are not escaping,” he said. He insisted, however, that Israel was “changing the balance” after a belated recognition that the Shia group was dug in deeper than expected.

“After a few days we realised that Hezbollah prepared itself over the last six years with thousands of rockets, with hundreds of shelters, bunkers, with hundreds of rockets hid in houses of civilians inside south Lebanon,” he said.

His forces had never intended to “conquer every square inch” of Bint Jbeil but had now achieved their objectives of taking the high ground. Wherever the Israel Defence Forces decided to act, the general said, “we have no problem to do so, no restrictions”.

In 14 days:

4 villages captured by Israel
40,000 shells have been fired
2,750 rockets and mortar fired into Israel
17 civilians killed
24 soldiers killed
381 Lebanese killed
75 soldiers injured
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 07/25/2006 18:23 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [674 views] Top|| File under:

#1  “After a few days we realised that Hezbollah prepared itself over the last six years with thousands of rockets, with hundreds of shelters, bunkers, with hundreds of rockets hid in houses of civilians inside south Lebanon."

This is starting to bug me. It wasn't unknown to the Israelis or the world that Hezbollah had imported thousands of rockets and was getting material support from Syria and Iran. Wouldn't it be obvious that Hezbollah would be digging in?
Posted by: Danking70 || 07/25/2006 18:55 Comments || Top||

#2  It is not a guerrilla army it's an IRG trained religiously motavated army. Not your run of the mill 'milita'

The UN let this IRG proxy group build up these fortifacations under their noses. The UN has some questions to answer having created this 'humanitarian disaster' through it's inactions.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom || 07/25/2006 18:57 Comments || Top||

#3  The UN never *answers* questions, they merely ask them. Similarly, the UN never *solves* problems, they merely pontificate endlessly about how all of the problems in the world are the directly to blame upon the US and Israel.
Posted by: Crusader || 07/25/2006 19:07 Comments || Top||

#4  When will the MSM stop carrying water for terrorists? Hizballah was not surprised by anything. This is exactly what they signed up for. And repeating Hizballah's propoganda just feeds into the "disproportionate" idiocy being echoed by the world's leftocracy.
Posted by: Iblis || 07/25/2006 19:09 Comments || Top||

#5  At the same time, a Hezbollah leader has made the startling admission that the group had underestimated Israel’s response to the kidnapping of its two soldiers. “The truth is we didn’t expect this response . . . that (Israel) would exploit this operation for this big war against us,” said Mahmoud Komati, the deputy chief of the Hezbollah politburo.

Well, if it's just a little "mischief" and only a couple of soldiers, then why not just give them back then? The soldiers are as symbolic to terrorist as that particular act of kidnapping is indicative of the terrorist mindset to westerners. [Read it a couple of times and it will make sense, I hope!] This is why the soldiers won't be let go, this is why the Israelis rightly attacked, and will continue to so so, with the world's blessing, until they see evidence of a change of heart. Even the above quote shows us that nothing has changed. Perhaps they wish they hadn't done it now, but I'm sure they would do it again if they thought they could get away with it.

Stomp 'em flat, Israel! Anything less and they will claim victory, and nothing will change. When they die, much of that area of the world can come out of hiding, and much of the world will be a better place.
Posted by: gorb || 07/25/2006 19:24 Comments || Top||

#6  Yet another Iwo Jima comparison. Well, the Marines were willing to oblige the Japanese, so we can only hope that the Israelis will accommodate the Hezbollah.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 07/25/2006 19:49 Comments || Top||

#7  Times: In the Galilee town of Safed, Brigadier-General Shuki Shachar, deputy commander of the northern forces, conceded that the foe was not an easy one. “Hezbollah is a fanatical organisation. It is highly motivated to fight. I don’t want to give grades to the enemy, but they are fighting. They are not escaping,” he said. He insisted, however, that Israel was “changing the balance” after a belated recognition that the Shia group was dug in deeper than expected.

I think the Times is being disingenuous. Hezbollah's strategy is lousy. Against a superior force (weaponry, numbers, take your pick), the guerrilla's best approach is to melt into the woodwork. Standing and fighting works to the Israeli miltary's advantage. The Israelis can annihilate any artillery Hezbollah can gin up, thanks to the miracle of precision bombing, so the guerrillas will be fighting primarily with rifles and RPG's. How is that a good way to fight?
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 07/25/2006 20:25 Comments || Top||

#8  "This is starting to bug me. It wasn't unknown to the Israelis or the world that Hezbollah had imported thousands of rockets and was getting material support from Syria and Iran. Wouldn't it be obvious that Hezbollah would be digging in?"

Everyone wants to cover up their own failures. So it was only a surprise...for journalist ignorants.
Posted by: Clerert Uneamp2772 || 07/25/2006 20:45 Comments || Top||

#9  I've seen at least 10 of the Israeli troops who are in the ground push interviewed. What's most striking is that none of them looked to be even 20 yrs old.

Most of them were working at the Golden Sheckel Pizza Parlor last week.
Posted by: cruiser || 07/25/2006 20:56 Comments || Top||

#10  I started to notice that kind of thing when my oldest got to highschool.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 07/25/2006 21:01 Comments || Top||

#11  Fresh-scrubbed kids. First taste of combat is "Holy Shit!" The "really scary" thing. Lasts for a week or so. Funny thing is, missing sleep seems to start the process of taking it in stride. A month later, you barely register the things that scared you on day one. As someone noted, the kids telling the MSM this juicy stuff aren't the hardened vets who've been dealing with Gaza and the West Bank. They'd yawn and tell the reporter to move away from their position.
Posted by: Champ Angeger5024 || 07/25/2006 21:11 Comments || Top||

#12  Napolean said that the best battle plan lasted until you met the enemy.

There are always surprises. Israel is not as prepared as it would have been if it had started this fight, but it has the ability to adapt and win.
Posted by: DoDo || 07/25/2006 22:01 Comments || Top||

#13  BS! Hizbollah prepared for encirclement-battles, similar to Soviet reaction to 1941 Nazi blitz. The IDF have technological means to discover tunnel-bunkered terrorists, that were not available to American troops during the Pacific War. So-called "fierce" resistance only occured before the IDF took the high ground.
Posted by: Griper Whegum8464 || 07/25/2006 22:23 Comments || Top||

#14  I would have thought Israel would have plenty of commandos etc. in the mix. If it's OK to say publicly, are they? Certainly they're not all sitting at home watching this on TV. Are they in Gaza or the West Bank? I can imagine a fair amount of green troops there, but not too many.
Posted by: gorb || 07/25/2006 23:04 Comments || Top||

Hezbollah rockets hit several points in Haifa
HAIFA, Israel - Hezbollah fired at least 10 rockets at the Israeli port city of Haifa on Tuesday, and one hit a city bus and another a house. Five people were hurt, one seriously and two moderately, doctors and medics said. Two of the rockets hit very close to a Haifa hospital, doctors told Channel 10 TV. Israeli police told the TV about a dozen rockets had hit the city. One rocket hit a city bus but only the driver was on board at the time. Puddles of blood were seen on the front steps leading up to the driver’s seat and witnesses said he was seriously hit. The windshield was hit by shrapnel and windows were blown out.

The house that was hit suffered heavy damage but no one was seriously hurt in that rocket attack, witnesses told the TV. Haifa Mayor Yona Yahav told the TV that residents had felt free to leave bomb shelters since rockets had not fallen all day.

A total of 17 Israeli civilians have been killed in Hezbollah rocket attacks. The Lebanese militia has fired hundreds of rockets on Israel since Israel launched a military campaign in Lebanon in response to a Hezbollah border attack
Posted by: Steve || 07/25/2006 09:10 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [324 views] Top|| File under:

#1  badanov will be pleased to hear that when this was reported on Fox, the Haifa correspondent said that the counterbattery fire came in under a minute and that it was confirmed the launcher was destroyed. Curiously, another Zelzal missile went off into the Med, missing the city. Heh.
Posted by: cruiser || 07/25/2006 9:43 Comments || Top||

#2  During the conduct of Northern Watch/Southern Watch No-Fly zone activity in Iraq, an Iraqi AAA battery would oftentimes wait till US aircraft had past and was were well beyond the effective range of the battery, then fire off a few rounds.
Posted by: Besoeker || 07/25/2006 9:55 Comments || Top||

Was chopper hit by IDF fire?
The Israel Air Force on Monday night continued to look into what caused the crash of a new Apache helicopter near Safed. At first, IAF sources reported that the aircraft apparently crashed due to a technical malfunction or a human error, but it later turned out that one of the possibilities looked into was that the chopper was hit by artillery fire of the Israel Defense Forces' "Destroyer" multiple launch rocket system. The two pilots killed in the crash are:

First Lieutenant Tom Farkash, 23, of Casarea
Colonel Tzvi Loft, 42, of Hogla

The "Destroyer" multiple launch rocket system is the most advanced multi-barreled rocket launcher in the world, which releases powerful fire that is scattered in the area and is considered statistical and not accurate.
Note: TEL AVIV, ISRAEL - Israel has begun using its enhanced multiple launch rocket system (MLRS) in the ongoing conflict with Hezbollah in Lebanon, the Middle East Newsline reports. The MLRS, which is designed to cut the number of rockets needed to destroy a target, uses a trajectory correction system known as the Destroyer to convert an unguided 227-mm projectile into a precision-guided munition. "This is the first time the system has been used on the battlefield," a military source said.
One sez precision-guided, one sez scattered. Make up your minds

This new weapon has been used by Israeli gunners in recent years, and is now being used for the first time in the battlefield against rocket launching sites in southern Lebanon. A possibility of a technical malfunction is still being checked.
Snip, some personal infos on the Ltn Tom Farkash, see link.

The incident in which two IDF soldiers were killed in the Bint Jbeil area in Lebanon was apparently also the result of friendly fire. A senior IAF officer said that the initial investigation into the incident revealed that an officer in the Golani Brigade command post identified an enemy force and ordered an aircraft to open fire at it; but a command post in Safed identified the “enemy force” as IDF troops and the aircraft was ordered to halt its fire.

Despite the incidents the Air Force has expressed captious optimism in light of the fact that no rockets were fired toward Haifa on Monday, saying it may be the result of the incessant attacks against Hizbullah targets in Lebanon.
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 07/25/2006 04:36 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [351 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The report that I heard was that the Apache pilot clipped an electrical line.
Posted by: Poison Reverse || 07/25/2006 14:17 Comments || Top||

IAF strikes weapons store in Gaza, causing blast
The IAF on Monday night fired at an Islamic Jihad warehouse in Gaza City containing large amounts of ammunition, causing a large explosion. Local residents claimed that seven people were wounded in the strike. The IDF said that it had distributed fliers before the strike, warning residents to keep away from places where weapons were stored, as those locations would be targeted by the army.
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#1  These guys were obviously at the low end of the militant gene pool. After eliminating themselves, the average IQ of the palestinian militants was probably raised by about 0.00000000000000000000001%
Posted by: gorb || 07/25/2006 1:09 Comments || Top||

#2  Distribute flyers, call before bombing, soon the IDF will require a signature holding them harmless.
Posted by: 6 || 07/25/2006 11:10 Comments || Top||

#3  Whoever runs Gaza's OSHA has got to update their regulations covering ammunation storage facilities. It doesn't seem like they've incorporated best practices.
Posted by: WhiteCollarRedneck || 07/25/2006 12:44 Comments || Top||

#4  Re "Ammunation" in my comment above - clearly I've been spending too much time playing Grand Theft Auto. I meant "ammunition," of course.
Posted by: WhiteCollarRedneck || 07/25/2006 12:45 Comments || Top||

#5  So let me get this right. If I light a match and throw it into gasoline, it will catch on fire.
Posted by: Poison Reverse || 07/25/2006 14:22 Comments || Top||

#6  Not sure, it can somtimes burn out by itself when "soaked" by the gas IIRC, without lighting it; gas vapors are killer, on the other hand, light up with a static spark. And we all know that paleos love to sniff gas vapors.
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 07/25/2006 17:29 Comments || Top||

#7  PR, there are two limits to consider when considering a vapor in a state to be ignited. They are the lower explosive limit (LEL) and the upper explosive limit (Uel). If there is not enough vapor in the atmosphere it will not ignir. Conversley, if there is too much vapor and not enough oxygen it will not ignite. The LEL of gasolene is VERY low. If you struck a match and threw it towards some liquid gasolene the LEL just above the surface is enough to ignite. If some how it didn't ignite and hit the liquid gasolene it would not ignite. No O2. That scenario is highly unlikely.
Posted by: Deacon Blues || 07/25/2006 20:06 Comments || Top||

Southeast Asia
Young Myanmar rebel Johnny Htoo surrenders
YANGON, Myanmar - One of two young twin brothers who led a small band of ethnic rebels calling themselves "God's Army" has surrendered to Myanmar's military government, state radio and television reported Tuesday night.
Not to be confused with the "Lord's Army"
Johnny Htoo and eight fellow members of the group left a refugee camp in Thailand earlier this month and surrendered with weapons in two separate groups on July 17 and 19 at the coastal region military command in southeastern Myanmar, according to the reports.
Johnny Htoo was the rebel
He roamed through the west
This Johnny Htoo the rebel
He wandered alone.

He got fightin' mad
This rebel lad
He packed no star
As he wandered far.

Where the only law
Was a hook and a draw
The rebel Johnny Htoo.

Johnny and his brother Luther in the late 1990s were charismatic leaders of a small band of ethnic Karen Christian rebels in eastern Myanmar fighting the country's military regime. Devout Christians, they were reputed by followers to be invulnerable to bullets and land mines. A photo of the twins, then about 12 years old, showing a soulful looking Johnny with long hair, and Luther puffing on a cigarette, became an iconic image of child soldiers. The two are now about 18.
He searched the land this restless lad
He was panther quick and leather tough
With the figure that he's been pushed enough
The rebel Johnny Htoo.

They surrendered to Thai authorities in January 2001, and had been living in a refugee camp in Thailand. This month, the surrendering guerrillas were welcomed by local and regional authorities and provided necessary assistance, said the news report, which made no mention of Luther. Television showed what it said was a photo of the group's surrender.
He got fightin' mad this rebel lad
With the dreams he's hold till his dyin' breath
He searched his soul and gambled with death
The rebel Johnny Htoo.....gave up.

Karen and other ethnic minority rebel groups have been fighting for more autonomy in Myanmar, also known as Burma, for five decades.
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#1  Guy's name sounds lobe somebody hawkin' a loogie...
Posted by: mojo || 07/25/2006 13:20 Comments || Top||

#2  Htoo dat?
Posted by: Mike || 07/25/2006 13:59 Comments || Top||

#3  Johnny HFive was a cool robot character in a movie some years back.
Posted by: glenmore || 07/25/2006 15:20 Comments || Top||

#4  Oh lawzey! Ima have flashbackers!
Posted by: 6 || 07/25/2006 15:28 Comments || Top||

#5  "they were reputed by followers to be invulnerable to bullets"

I thought that was a strictly african shtick.
Posted by: liberalhawk || 07/25/2006 16:15 Comments || Top||

#6  I thought that was a strictly african shtick.

Not if you're on the Golden Triangle's world famous cash crop.
Posted by: Steve || 07/25/2006 16:46 Comments || Top||

Philippines: War on Communism Continues
July 25, 2006: Over the last few days, battles between rival MILF factions left at least five people dead, and many more wounded. The factionalism within the MILF is becoming an obstacle to peace talks with the government. Some of the more extremist MILF factions are also supporting Islamic terrorists.

July 21, 2006: Over the last few days, clashes with NPA groups left 25 rebels and four soldiers dead.

July 20, 2006: The government has apparently abandoned efforts to negotiate with the NPA, and is now determined to destroy the communist rebel group within the next two years.
Posted by: Steve || 07/25/2006 09:21 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [343 views] Top|| File under:

#1  As long as MSM and universities [and their trained teachers] throughout the world bury the horrors of 20th century communism this will continue to haunt mankind. Communism and its sympathizers should be treated as repugnant as slavery and slavers.
Posted by: Whomogum Creremble6430 || 07/25/2006 9:46 Comments || Top||

#2  Meanwhile the 'MILF' is getting ready to splinter off a 'militant' arm to continue the islamic traditions (of killing infidels) while the [skeleton crew] 'political' arm keeps the government from doing anything [in the name of peace].

Arroyo is a fool to think the MILF will honor any peace deal - its obvious they cannot (or will not) control their own people.

Meanwhile The MSM and Left (Acadamia) will never reveal the truth of the Communist horrors. Instead we get T-shirts idolizing a communist murderer who loved to slit the throats of 11 year old boys (Che).

Where are the pictures of the Cambodian killing fields? The North Korean labor camps?

Meanwhile ABC News dedicates almost their entire newscast to cover the plight of the Lebonese people [and the Hezbollah terrorists civilians) during the recent fighting - then the anchorperson smurks when the Isreali suffering (over the past several YEARS) is mentioned (in passing).
Posted by: CrazyFool || 07/25/2006 10:40 Comments || Top||

#3  Public schools are the left's reproductive system.
Posted by: Iblis || 07/25/2006 10:44 Comments || Top||

#4  Or birth control.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 07/25/2006 10:56 Comments || Top||

#5  Cf is tracking on this one!

The MILF was the splinter group from the MNLF. Now the ASG are doing the dirty work while the MILF are talking. The JI is in there training ASG, MILF, and hosting other terrorists, MILF are providing sanctuary for all. Its like the three stooges pointing the finger in circles and Arroyo, one brain cell up from a drunk bar girl, is stumped. The place is a comic tradegy.

The NPA have a strong showing in congress and the senate. Unfortunately they will probably win out in the end there. They are improving the economy in their controlled areas, killing drug dealers, feeding the poor, improving schools and clinics, and supported by the Catholic church.
Posted by: 49 Pan || 07/25/2006 11:17 Comments || Top||

Alleged Indonesian militant sentenced to jail for harboring terror leader
Indonesia sentenced an alleged Islamic militant to 3 1/2 years in prison on Monday for sheltering the reputed head of the al-Qaida linked terror group Jemaah Islamiyah in his home. Faturahman, who goes by a single name, was found guilty of violating the country's anti-terror law by harboring Noordin Top in central Java in 2004, judges at the South Jakarta District Court ruled. "The defendant did not report to authorities even though he knew that Noordin was a fugitive," said presiding Judge Toedarmadji. Lawyers for Faturahman were not immediately available for comment.
Posted by: Fred || 07/25/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [319 views] Top|| File under:

Sri Lanka
Tamil opponent shot down
Suspected Tamil Tiger rebels shot dead a political opponent in Colombo on Monday and killed a soldier in an ambush in the north, on the anniversary of riots that spiraled into war 23 years ago. Officials said Maha Kanapathipallai, a senior member of Tamil political party EPDP, former militants opposed to the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE) and now part of the government coalition, was gunned down in Colombo's main Tamil neighbourhood.

"He had just been to prayers at a Hindu kovil (temple) and they came and knocked him down from his (motor-scooter) and shot him," said EPDP spokesman S Thavarajah. Kanapathipallai was public relations head for party leader and Social Services Minister Douglas Devananda. "It is very clear it was the Tigers," Thavarajah said. "Anyone who is affiliated to the minister is a target. They want to cripple him," he said.
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Turkey, Saudi Now Blocking "Humanitarian Relief" From Iran To Syria
Turkey and Saudi Arabia have stopped Iran using their air space to send humanitarian relief to Lebanon, media in Iran have said.

Iran's health ministry has been collecting supplies to send to the Lebanese people, the reports said. But the goods had to be sent via Dubai to Syria because of objections by other countries in the region.

This may fuel Iranian anger against nations they feel have not done enough to support Hezbollah against Israel.

Iran's Labour news agency quotes the head of the country's emergency services as complaining that Turkish officials prevented Iran from using their air space for humanitarian aid destined for Lebanon.

The same official said three Iranian ambulances had already been despatched to Lebanon and soon another 20 would follow.

Another news agency quotes the security chief of Iran's health ministry as saying both Turkey and Saudi Arabia had prevented Iran from using their air space for three plane-loads of medicine.

The Iranian health ministry says it sent a group of health experts to Lebanon to assess the situation but Hezbollah has told the group it has enough food and medicine to last for five months.

Iran has already complained bitterly about Arab countries like Saudi Arabia, Jordan and the Gulf states which it says have caused divisions in the Muslim world and failed to do enough to support Hezbollah.

Daily newspaper editorials bemoan what they call the passivity of Arab leaders.

The speaker of the Iranian parliament recently called on Arab people in those countries to rise up against their governments.
"What is plan 'B', Ali?"
Posted by: Anonymoose || 07/25/2006 20:15 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [370 views] Top|| File under:

#1  About f'n time. Good work, Condi.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 07/25/2006 20:23 Comments || Top||

#2  Spot on, Nimble. LOL. Way funny. I wonder if AhmedMidget is throwing hissy fits...
Posted by: cruiser || 07/25/2006 20:24 Comments || Top||

#3  "The speaker of the Iranian parliament recently called on Arab people in those countries to rise up against their governments."

An uprising against the government of a country would certainly be in order.

Your country, asshole.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 07/25/2006 20:29 Comments || Top||

#4  but Hezbollah has told the group it has enough food and medicine to last for five months.

Then what is all this screaming about people straving and dying from lack of aid? And this is from the BBC?
Posted by: Sherry || 07/25/2006 20:49 Comments || Top||

#5  hizballah senior management has enough food for 6 months; middle management enough for 4 months; the Shiite masses are probably 3 weeks from hunger
Posted by: mhw || 07/25/2006 20:59 Comments || Top||

#6  Maybe it wasn't just food and medicine in those flights? Maybe it gets unloaded, inspected and reloaded on other planes in Dubai?
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 07/25/2006 21:03 Comments || Top||

#7  The beeb. They have have a link on their home page to some British/Lebanese bint who "stayed to help the refugees." The link takes you straight to a page where she answers questions from people around the world. Of course all of her answers are about the evil jooos and the brave Lebanese. I wouldn't quite call it Hezb propaganda, but it is clearly Arab Nationalist propaganda. Who needs al Manar when you have the BBC?

Thanks, BTW, Nimble Spemble for the compliment yesterday.
Posted by: 11A5S || 07/25/2006 21:14 Comments || Top||

#8  You're welcome. You deserve one every day.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 07/25/2006 21:17 Comments || Top||

#9  NS, Maybe it wasn't just food and medicine in those flights?

That was my first thought. They use commercial planes to resupply arms. It would be nice if someone caught them red-handed for the PR value.

But that is not necessary, Turks and Soddies suspect or know what is going on.
Posted by: twobyfour || 07/25/2006 21:19 Comments || Top||

#10  Just keep clipping off the links between Iran, Syria, and Hiz. Cut off the resupply and the job will be easier for Israel to grind Hiz into powder.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 07/25/2006 21:30 Comments || Top||

#11  I say let them through after a through inspection of the cargo and it is harmless drugs and food. If it isn't sezied the plane and crew. My guess is it's war materials.

11A5S I was recently 'banned' from a blog for suggesting targeted killings directed towards BBC 'reporters' who seem to be attached at the hip to terrorist groups like Hamas Hizb'allah and the PLO. I am afraid it's the only thing those TRANZIs will understand. The people of the UK seem to be hopless in getting BBC propaganda news under control by any other method.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom || 07/25/2006 22:02 Comments || Top||

Israel says killed senior Hizbollah commander
Israeli troops on Tuesday killed a senior Hizbollah commander in fighting near the Lebanese border, the army said. The army identified the man as Abu Jaafar and said he was the commander of Hizbollah's "central sector" on the Lebanese border with Israel. The army said he was killed in an exchange of fire with Israeli troops near the Lebanese border village of Maroun al-Ras.
I'd call him a mid-level commander, myself, but Pudgette said she'd hum a few bars of "When the Saints go Marching In."
Posted by: Fred || 07/25/2006 18:20 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [376 views] Top|| File under:

#1  couldn't be THAT high up.....those people are tucked away, nice and safe, sending others to die for them...oh yeah, and allan.
Posted by: PlanetDan || 07/25/2006 19:09 Comments || Top||

#2  Any word on who died today in the big boom in Beirut? Last time Israel hit a target there we had hopes Nassrallah was dead.
Posted by: JAB || 07/25/2006 19:36 Comments || Top||

Discontent in Syria as more neighbours drop in
WITH the number of Lebanese refugees who have crossed into Syria now estimated at more than 120,000, and increasing by the day, many Syrians are privately expressing concern about the potential economic effects on their country. While wealthier and better-connected Lebanese are staying in hotels or with relatives, and planning to travel on to other countries, tens of thousands are staying with volunteer hosts or finding space in schools or mosques.

Although Syrian officials are publicly pledging solidarity with the "Lebanese national resistance", as the Lebanese militia Hezbollah is called in the state-run media, and vowing to aid the Lebanese refugees for as long as the fighting in Lebanon continues, for many Syrians the Lebanese arrivals are a new and unexpected burden. Syria, a country of 19 million, is already home to about 420,000 Palestinian refugees, according to the United Nations. Since the American invasion of Iraq in 2003, Syria has also taken in about 1 million Iraqi refugees, according to Syrian Government figures.

It is not geography alone that makes Syria a natural destination. Baathist-led Syria, the last bastion of pan-Arabism in the Middle East, allows the citizens of any Arab country to enter without visas, and to settle permanently. Syrian officials even avoid the word "refugee", preferring to talk about the Lebanese as fellow members of a greater Arab nation. Despite this, many Syrians say tensions are rising; that refugees are driving up the costs of housing and food, and there is a popular perception that they are contributing to a rising crime rate. Heh
Posted by: Steve || 07/25/2006 13:17 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [460 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Destroy the Syrian economy?

Rove isn't even this smart (or is he?....)
Posted by: Mullah Richard || 07/25/2006 13:57 Comments || Top||

#2  I'd wager anyone running to Syria considers them a "friend" rather than a "former occupier". Can you say "purge"?
Posted by: Steve || 07/25/2006 14:07 Comments || Top||

#3  and there is a popular perception that they are contributing to a rising crime rate.

Since a number of them are Palestinians from the Ein el Hilweh refugee camp, I have no doubt that the crime rate is rising significantly.
Posted by: trailing wife || 07/25/2006 14:08 Comments || Top||

#4  Not Refugees. Undocumented aliens.
Posted by: DarthVader || 07/25/2006 14:12 Comments || Top||

#5  Crime rate should be the least of Syria's concern. If the refugees stay there, there is going to be a sectarian war. Popcorn please. It's ironic that the very thing Syria wanted to export, they just imported it. Good luck and Good night.
Posted by: Poison Reverse || 07/25/2006 14:14 Comments || Top||

#6  The Lebanese should stay for 29 years . . . just until Syria stabilizes.
Posted by: Tibor || 07/25/2006 14:29 Comments || Top||

#7  " If the refugees stay there, there is going to be a sectarian war. "

IF the refugees are Shia, AND they stay there, they will be reinforcements for the regime in any sectarian war.
Posted by: liberalhawk || 07/25/2006 14:53 Comments || Top||

#8  "Pre-Legal" aliens, Darth. The term is "Pre-Legal".

Just so you know.............
Posted by: Mullah Richard || 07/25/2006 15:20 Comments || Top||

#9  Shouldn't we, y'know, be printing up comic books to explain how to sneak into Syria "safely"?
Posted by: mojo || 07/25/2006 15:42 Comments || Top||

#10  Considering that the majority of refugees coming from Lebanon are likley Shia leaning Hezbollah types, the Syrian Alawite/Shia government is probably releived to have some more backers.

The waves of Sunni from Iraq were more likely to destabalize the Syrian goverenment.

The economic impact although from both parties will be hard felt by the Syrian people but then that is the love of Dictators the pain of the people is really irrelevent.
Posted by: C-Low || 07/25/2006 16:14 Comments || Top||

#11  And I thought I had problems when my wife's relatives stay at our place.
Posted by: Perfesser || 07/25/2006 16:39 Comments || Top||

#12  And this is a problem, because...? Hey, when you sh*t in your messkit, sometimes you get splashed. Syria figured that Hiz would take a few IDF hostages, some tit for tat, and that would be it. They did not reckon that Israel would have had enough and started to kick Hiz from here to Sunday. Got to think this stuff through before you help it out. Get all the refugees routed to Syria.

Where in blazes is Barbara Scolaut? Ima got a powerful hunger for buttered popcorn.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 07/25/2006 16:40 Comments || Top||

#13  Tell us about it.

Posted by: Seafarious || 07/25/2006 17:16 Comments || Top||

#14  They simply will have to return to Lebanon, get a temporary visa, and then get at the back of the line.

The proprietaries must be obsevered at all times
Posted by: kelly || 07/25/2006 17:44 Comments || Top||

#15  Not that simple. AFAIK Alwaites are very liberal in things such as alcohol or treatment of women. Shia or not Shia I don't think there is that much sympathy between them and orthodox shiites a la Khomeini. BTW I think the ones are part of 7 imams Shiism and the others from 12 imams Shiism. Ie the 7 imam people consider the 12 imap people as heretics for admiitinbg 5 false imams while the 12 imams people despise the 7 imam people for not accepting the 5 additional imams.
Posted by: JFM || 07/25/2006 18:04 Comments || Top||

#16  After reading this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alawi
it is quite evident that mainstream shia hate alawites.
Posted by: JFM || 07/25/2006 18:10 Comments || Top||

#17  Uh huh....that certainly clears that up.

I could have been wrong about the need for a visa.
Posted by: kelly || 07/25/2006 18:12 Comments || Top||

#18  It is never wrong to call for the proprieties to be observed, kelly dear. Warmed me right down to the cockles of me 'eart, it did indeed! ;-)
Posted by: trailing wife || 07/25/2006 20:01 Comments || Top||

#19  Israel's secret weapon: nobody wants the Paleos. By the way, I have met Syrian-Americans who would be insulted to be referred to as an Arab.
Posted by: Griper Whegum8464 || 07/25/2006 22:27 Comments || Top||

Israeli forces close in on key Hezbollah stronghold
JERUSALEM - Israeli forces battled to take over a second Hezbollah stronghold in southern Lebanon on Tuesday in intensifying ground clashes with the guerrillas’ frontier garrison, sources on both sides said. Calling Bint Jbeil “one of the major Hezbollah centres”, an Israeli military spokesman said tanks and troops had sealed off the town, killed or wounded dozens of guerrillas, and were engaged in sporadic firefights with the hold-outs. “We are operating in the town. I can’t say we are in total control of the town yet,” the spokesman said.

Hezbollah had no immediate word on its casualties but said in a statement that its men were fighting Israeli forces on Bint Jbeil’s outskirts and the surrounding area. Al Jazeera television said four Israeli soldiers were wounded in Tuesday’s clashes. The army did not comment on fresh casualties, but has said two tank crewmen were killed in Bint Jbeil on Monday while several more soldiers were wounded.

Taking Bint Jbeil could be a morale-booster for Israel, which launched a Lebanese offensive after Hezbollah killed eight soldiers and abducted two others in a July 12 border raid. Some 400 Lebanese, mostly civilians, and 35 Israelis have since died.

“Bint Jbeil was basically the main Hezbollah outpost, even a symbol,” Major-General Yiftach Ron-Tal told Israel Radio. “I think this has an important impact on morale,” he said. ”In Hezbollah’s worst dreams it never expected the Israeli Defence Forces to enter Bint Jbeil and take it over during this campaign.”

Israel lost seven army commandos last week in capturing Maroun Al Ras, a nearby Hezbollah stronghold that had served as a staging ground for attempted infiltrations of Israeli border villages and cross-border rocket launches.

According to Israeli intelligence estimates, the Hezbollah fighters are holed up in a network of tunnels and trenches around Shia Muslim villages in southern Lebanon. Israel ordered civilians out of 14 of the villages over the weekend.
Ron-Tal said that, if Israeli forces assumed full control of Bint Jbeil, they would effectively split southern Lebanon -- the heartland of the Iranian-backed Shia guerrilla group.

But he said Israel should not consider rebuilding outposts in Bint Jbeil used during a 22-year-occupation that was ended in 2000, in part due to fatigue at Hezbollah ambushes on troops. Located some 4 km (2.5 miles) from the Israeli border, Bint Jbeil was first conquered by Israel during a 1972 assault on Palestinian refugee guerrillas. It was retaken six years later, when Israel launched a major push against the Palestinians.

The Israeli army said its forces have killed at least 10 guerrillas in the current incursions but had no firmer figures. ”There is fierce fighting, and we are not in a position to check the pulse of each and every enemy casualty,” an army spokeswoman said.
Posted by: Steve || 07/25/2006 09:13 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [329 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Evacuate all the remaining civilians this time. No civilians will make it harder for the Hezzies to sneak back. Any more crap, and their IAF can level the place.
Posted by: Apostate || 07/25/2006 10:04 Comments || Top||

#2  They should level it now. What's a D-9 for, anyway?
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 07/25/2006 10:12 Comments || Top||

#3  This is a war of attrician with the Hezb below the surface. It's important to seal off passages and never let up, so the Hezb goes without rest.
There will be Israeli casualties, but they must continue to collapse the tunnel structure and gain ground.
Posted by: wxjames || 07/25/2006 10:21 Comments || Top||

#4  I believe most civilians are gone from that town anyway. Once Israel clears it, I believe they will watch the area with UAV assets and just blast anything that tries to go back in.
Posted by: crosspatch || 07/25/2006 11:37 Comments || Top||

#5  Ahmadinejad has been making about a apolyptic threat per hour today compared to only two a day the past week.

The general rule of thumb is that when Muslims threaten, it is because they are losing or they fear losing.
Posted by: mhw || 07/25/2006 14:53 Comments || Top||

#6  Parking lot
Posted by: Captain America || 07/25/2006 18:07 Comments || Top||

DEBKA: Bin Jubeil - Lessons Learned
After overwhelming the Hizballah stronghold of Bin Jubeil in southern Lebanon Tuesday July 25, Israeli armed ground forces and tanks are preparing to sweep forward to sanitize the town’s satellites. Israel lost two tank personnel: 1st Lieutenant Lotan Slavin, 21 from Moshav Hatzeva, and 1st Sgt Kobi Smileg, 20, from Rehovot. Hizballah is reported by IDF sources to have lost 100-120 Hizballah fighters.

Israel’s immediate military mission now is to capture or subdue Bin Jubeil’s five satellite villages, where 300 Hizballah fighters are sheltering: Ain Ebel, Hannine, Deble, Yaroun and Rmaich, the latter two very close to the Lebanese-Israeli border.

These fighters know they are trapped in a tight noose; they cannot escape or hope for help, whether in the form of reinforcements or weapons. Monday night, Israeli forces dropped leaflets over these villages offering them the option of laying down their arms and saving their lives. The language was deliberately vague. It was not clear whether the men who surrendered would be allowed to go back to their families or, more likely, taken prisoner to be held against the release of Israel’s kidnapped soldiers. The Olmert government would thus hold a card for overruling the Hizballah condition for jailed terrorists to be freed as the price for the Israeli hostages, which with Israeli prime minister has rejected, and offer instead an exchange of war prisoners.

The Bint Jubeil operation taught Israeli war planners three lessons:

1. It did not help reduce the rocket fire against Israel. The number of launchers and rockets found in the small town was minimal. Any missile crewmen who may have been deployed there had moved to other locations ahead of the Israeli assault.

2. Bin Jubeil and its satellite villages are only one small center at the southern end of the central sector of the south. There are dozens such clusters across the region. they will have to be flushed out one by one, entailing prolonged military action and exposing the troops to more casualties.

3. The IDF found that certain local elements, which once cooperated with Israel forces during their 24-year occupation of South Lebanon until the May 2000 withdrawal, were still willing to be helpful. Their assistance shortened the Bint Jubeil operation and made its completion possible barring scattered gunfire early Tuesday, July 25.

Hizballah too had some lessons to draw:

While inflicting losses on Israel forces in the battles for towns and villages, Hizballah’s losses are many times greater. They cannot stand up to the superior firepower leveled against them by a combination of tanks, special operations units and air force. Therefore fighters in the south have been instructed to discontinue face-to-face combat with Israeli troops. Instead, they were told to withdraw from the bult-up areas and wage guerrilla warfare from woods, forests, dry river beds, and fruit orchards. Israeli forces are therefore braced for stealthy Hizballah strikes from ambush against tanks, infantry and command posts.

Once they have cleansed the five villages around Bin Jubeil, Israeli war commanders face a choice of one out of three options, given the limitation of the small number of troops on the ground:

First: The Western Sector running from the orchards and banana groves south of Tyre which includes the Palestinian Rashidiya refugee camp up to Mansoura, where Hizballah has concentrated a large force, and including Burj a-Shamali and Zabqine, southeast of Tyre. This large enclave of southwestern Lebanon is saturated with Hizballah rockets launchers of different types and fighting strength.

Second: The Central Sector, which would entail the Israeli Bin Jubeil force heading north to take over Tebnine and deepening its thrust into South Lebanon up to 20 km from the Israeli border.

Third: The Eastern Sector, where Israeli forces would home in on Khiam on the road between the Israeli border town of Metula to the Lebanese village of Marjayoun which commands the Hatzbani River. From there, they way would be open to the Nabatiya plain and Hizballah’s main South Lebanon command center near the village of Taibe. Monday, morning, Israeli warplanes struck Nabatiya. Lebanese sources report seven people were killed.

DEBKAfile’s military sources describe the Hizballah command center as housed in a fort called Beck House which belongs to the As’ad clan, for many years the feudal lords of all southern Lebanon.

Whichever direction Israel’s high command chooses for the next stage of the war will necessitate proceeding at a slow pace, whether because of an insufficiency of men on the ground, the risks of troop and civilian casualties or the complexity of their missions. The snail’s pace of the IDF’s advance means that Hizballah’s rocket offensive against northern Israel cannot be completely disabled in the near term, and that Hassan Nasrallah and his overlords in Tehran and Syria have enough time to come up with fresh initiatives while topping up Hizballah’s resources as they are depleted.
Posted by: Steve || 07/25/2006 09:07 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [342 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The snail’s pace of the IDF’s advance means that Hizballah’s rocket offensive against northern Israel cannot be completely disabled in the near term, and that Hassan Nasrallah and his overlords in Tehran and Syria have enough time to come up with fresh initiatives while topping up Hizballah’s resources as they are depleted.

Thought the IDF had the Hez-B resupply routes well controlled.
Posted by: JohnQC || 07/25/2006 9:27 Comments || Top||

#2  I presume they haven't burned through the 11,000+ they started with, yet.
Posted by: cruiser || 07/25/2006 9:37 Comments || Top||

#3  There is no upside to stopping th rocket attacks on Northern Israel. They aren't doing that much damage. They keep Israeli morale focused on stopping Hezb'Allah. As soon as they stop, the pressure for a cease fire from the EU will become even greater. Whatever Israel does should be aimed at Syria as well as Hezb'Allah.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 07/25/2006 9:56 Comments || Top||

#4  So that whole Iwo Jima thing is abandoned already?
Posted by: Oldcat || 07/25/2006 10:00 Comments || Top||

#5  Getting the rockets below 50 per day will be good enough in the short run. As Nimble said, zero attacks will increase the pressure for a ceasefire.

As far the Hezzies getting resupplied is concerned, not only have the Israelis taken down the bridges, they are also bombing all the trucks they spot. Even suspicious cars are not safe. Will the Hezzies be able to resist effectively if they can only move around is on foot?
Posted by: Apostate || 07/25/2006 10:15 Comments || Top||

#6  Israel should have more time to defeat Hizbollah, before coming under pressure, than is assumed (in order of importance):
1. Russia is no longer a super-power with Arab client states under its nuclear umbrella;
2. The current US administration is the first to realize that messianic Moslems and Arabs have the US as target number one and that sacrificing Israel wouldn't remove all their crazy grievances;
3. Even Europeans aren't as passionately anti-Israeli as before and are nervous about Iran;
4. Sunni Arabs wouldn't mind seeing non-Arab, Shiite Iran's Shiite clients be diminished and want to avoid Iraq-style chaos spreading through the region;
5. While most nations want a multi-national peacekeeping force in Lebanon, everybody wants someone else to volunteer (shows their hypocrisy -- they know that amoral Hizbollah loves killing peacekeepers, yet they won't condemn Hizbollah or recognize their threat).
The least stable of these factors is 3 and so astute Europeans should make their voices heard now in their media and with their governments to try to counteract the usual European appeasement instincts.
Posted by: Odysseus || 07/25/2006 10:26 Comments || Top||

#7  The Hezbals understand the eighth century lifestyle, I'm sure moving on foot will be fine.
I love the attrician rate; 2 to 120.
These are great days, my buds, great days.
Posted by: wxjames || 07/25/2006 10:32 Comments || Top||

#8  Abandoning the villages for the countryside is pure suicide since Israel has UAVs. Hezbollah can be tracked and hit with artillery, airpower and Apachies. If you want to inflict pain, they should hide in well camoed bunkers for a few days then come out and wreck havoc with the Israeli supply lines.
Posted by: DarthVader || 07/25/2006 10:43 Comments || Top||

Get Iran. Kill the head and the body will die.
Posted by: Master of Obvious || 07/25/2006 11:05 Comments || Top||

#10  In the US military, we own the night.

Israel's capability equivalent? Are all units supplied? Are they sufficiently trained?

This seals Hezb's resupply fate if they are up to snuff - but I don't know the answers.
Posted by: cruiser || 07/25/2006 11:06 Comments || Top||

#11  Israel still needs effective counter-battery with turn around measured in seconds.
Posted by: 3dc || 07/25/2006 11:22 Comments || Top||

#12  In the US military, we own the night.

Israel's capability equivalent? Are all units supplied? Are they sufficiently trained?

1. Yes, their night vision is as good as the US.
2. Not all of their units are as fully equiped as the US, but more than enough to get the job done.
3. Yes and no. Tank training has slacked but MOUT training increased with infantry since they have dealt with irregular infantry for years. The average Israeli is still more than a match for Hezspurta.
Posted by: DarthVader || 07/25/2006 11:23 Comments || Top||

#13  Apparently one big surprise has been that Hezb'Allah has more and better night vision equipment and tactics than was anticipated. Technical advances don't remain secret for ever. Expecially when the Russians and Chinese steal them from us and sell them to the Iranians.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 07/25/2006 11:27 Comments || Top||

#14  Given Israel's expertize with UAVs, I don't give these "guerilla bands" a high chance of sucess.

At this rate the Jihadis may run out of virgins!

Posted by: Frozen Al || 07/25/2006 11:35 Comments || Top||

#15  Yep, when I was in the Rangers our motto was "We OWN the night" and they still do.

BTW, I bet the IDF "Owns the Night", it goes far beyound merely having NVD's it means training and tactics designed to take every advantage of the cloak of darkness, you don't just slap on the goggles and go run around like you would at noon. Its a different mindset and operation
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom || 07/25/2006 11:52 Comments || Top||

#16  Probably one thing not mentioned is that much of the IDF 'A' team is still in Gaza (where the kill ratio is more like several hundred to one).

If the Egyptians succeed in getting a cease fire in Gaza, the IDF in Lebanon gets better.

BtW, the fact that the Egyptians are working hard on a cease fire is pretty strong evidence that Egypt wants to see Hezballah hurt bad.
Posted by: mhw || 07/25/2006 12:22 Comments || Top||

#17  Yeasterday's news footage showed tanks patrolling and some resupply convoys and both were white lighting it. I was a bit surprised and did not see NVG mounts on any of the helmets.
Posted by: 49 Pan || 07/25/2006 12:28 Comments || Top||

#18  Yep, when I was in the Rangers our motto was "We OWN the night" and they still do.

Clearly, you are not the real SPoD. It is really, really rude to steal another's nym. Real Rangers don't steal from citizens, sir. And if 49 Pan (still in active service, unlike you, sir) is any example, never unnecessarily rude, either. Behave appropriately or go away.
Posted by: trailing wife || 07/25/2006 14:16 Comments || Top||

#19  how can you steal an identity from a sock puppet? Are we forgetting what sock puppet means on the net?
Posted by: liberalhawk || 07/25/2006 14:56 Comments || Top||

#20  Lonely little guy. Sad.
Posted by: 6 || 07/25/2006 17:29 Comments || Top||

#21  I think they should take off and nuke the place from orbit.

It's the only way to be sure.
Posted by: kelly || 07/25/2006 17:51 Comments || Top||

#22  In deed the post in my name was not from me. I would have been found unfit for military service.
This person has been asked to stop using my handle.

liberalhawk you will note I own the domain name.
There is only one SPoD and that is me.

Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom || 07/25/2006 18:51 Comments || Top||

#23  SPoD - Who owns who? Come to momma.
Posted by: Sherry Lewis || 07/25/2006 19:34 Comments || Top||

#24  Lambreth? I thought it was Lambchops.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 07/25/2006 19:36 Comments || Top||

#25  I, at least, do not know what "sock puppet" means on the web. Please explain, liberalhawk. Even so, the gentleman in question did not call himself just "sock puppet", but the full "Sock Puppet of Doom", which nym has a long and illustrious history here at Rantburg, and his own website besides. Not cricket at all.
Posted by: trailing wife || 07/25/2006 20:05 Comments || Top||

#26  Hey, "lh" is safe. BTW, he only posts from work, it seems, so you probably won't get an answer, tw.
Posted by: cruiser || 07/25/2006 20:13 Comments || Top||

#27  This guy is just wrong. Integrity or lack there of comes clean even on the internet.

BTW TW I dont know what the internet def of SPoD is either.
Posted by: 49 Pan || 07/25/2006 21:39 Comments || Top||

Dan Darling Profiles Iran's Hizbollah-Terror Controller
Mind of Mugniyeh
The Iranian architect of Hezbollah's terror.
by Dan Darling

THE NAME Imad Fayez Mugniyeh is probably not familiar to most Americans, but it is never been far from the minds of most international security experts. As the fighting between Hezbollah and Israel continues, analysts and observers would do well to remember Mughniyeh, who may have been the architect of the Hezbollah raid that killed eight Israeli soldiers, captured two others, and sparked the current crisis.

Details of Mughniyeh's origins are fragmentary. He is believed to have served as a member of Force 17, Yasser Arafat's personal bodyguard unit, before joining Hezbollah. There he acted first as a bodyguard for the group's spiritual leader, Mohammad Hussein Fadlallah, and eventually rose to his current role as the group's operations chief. His official role in Hezbollah is unclear, with various sources describing him as the current head of Hezbollah's security section, a member of the group's Jihad Council, the director of its intelligence apparatus, or its external operations chief...

Posted by: Griper Whegum8464 || 07/25/2006 07:23 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [333 views] Top|| File under:

#1  He is now public and on the soon to be dead list.
Posted by: 49 Pan || 07/25/2006 11:25 Comments || Top||

#2  Rantburg Regulars are entirely too familiar with Moog. I suspect The Fat Lady will be the RD&TP Front Page guest of honor when we finally nail the bastard.
Posted by: PBMcL || 07/25/2006 14:21 Comments || Top||

Report: Nasrallah’s banks bombed
WASHINGTON – NBC television reported Tuesday that the IDF has bombed Lebanese banks holding Hizbullah money, this in the framework of Israel’s attempt to destroy the terror group’s financial infrastructure.

According to the report, in the past few days Israel has intentionally targeted financial institutions in Beirut and other cities throughout Lebanon, among them Tyre, Sidon and Nabatiyeh. Israeli intelligence sources told NBC that at least 12 financial institutions that supported Hizbullah were attacked, adding that the organization, which secretly managed its funds, is now short on cash due to the bombings.

Some of the banks that held Hizbullah accounts were completely destroyed, while others were purposely damaged but not completely demolished. NBC said that in one incident the Israeli Air Force bombed the home of a bank manager as a warning to other Lebanese bankers not to deal with Hizbullah.

Counter-Terror Bureau Director Dani Balilti told NBC that the message to all banks in Lebanon was that aid to Hizbullah is aid to a terror organization. He said Israel knew they needed money and were desperate for cash, but that they didn't have it.

The Israeli Air Force targeted, among others, eight offices named Bet El Mal used by Hizbullah to store the organization's money. Two other banks in Lebanon were hit – Al Baraka and Fransa Bank, used by Hizbullah to transfer money around the world.

The NBC network turned to the Baraka bank, which confirmed that one of its branches had been bombed, and that nearby bank branches were also bombed. It was also reported Israel warned a third bank, the Middle East and Africa Bank (MEAB), that it too was in the crosshairs.

All banks denied any ties to Hizbullah. The director-general of the Fransa-Bank said that his bank had no ties to Hizbullah or any other political party. The manager of the MEAB said that someone had tried to open a suspicious account at the bank, but that it refused to accept the money and fired a worker who was involved in the attempted deposit.

Despite the denials however, it turns out that the Lebanese bank was after all tied to terror. Last week Hizbullah's television station al-Manar held a fund raising campaign, and in advertisements a MEAB account was given.

An Arabic-speaking producer of NBC called the bank in Beirut and asked to transfer a donation to Hizbullah. He was told he could transfer the money via any American bank branch, but that it was best he not say the money was destined for Hizbullah. The MEAB held ties with American bank Wachovia. Following questions by NBC, the American bank immediately notified its cutting of all connections with the Arab bank.

NBC called the number displayed on the al-Manar advertisement. This time they were transferred to another bank, the Lebanese-French bank. This bank has two connections with large banks in New York: Citibank and the Bank of New York. Representatives of the banks said they are blocking the transfer of all money meant for Hizbullah.
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 07/25/2006 04:41 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [307 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Can't pay the terrorists? Let them eat jihad.
Posted by: Griper Whegum8464 || 07/25/2006 6:00 Comments || Top||

#2  The Wachovia route is much better than the bomb route. This is dumb PR.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 07/25/2006 7:26 Comments || Top||

#3  Saw this covered nicely on NBC Nightly News last night. Excellent job, IAF!!!!
Posted by: Lancasters Over Dresden || 07/25/2006 8:30 Comments || Top||

#4  "This bank has two connections with large banks in New York: Citibank and the Bank of New York. Representatives of the banks said they are blocking the transfer of all money meant for Hizbullah."

The reason why this was not done right after 9/11, is just mind boggling. Hezbollah have been classified by the State Dept. as a terrorist organization for some time now. Sometimes I wonder, if we are really serious about this WoT. Right now, the Democrats are not in power. There is just no excuse.
Posted by: Poison Reverse || 07/25/2006 8:43 Comments || Top||

#5  IIRC there has been a major hush hush over the connexions of two "major NYC banks" to terror financing.
Posted by: Seafarious || 07/25/2006 9:00 Comments || Top||

#6  "Got somethin' for ya, Mr. Potter!..."
Posted by: mojo || 07/25/2006 9:51 Comments || Top||

#7  While the name on the bank accounts was probably NOT listed as Hizbullah, the banks should have known what they were used for because they can track funds. Hopefully, due to the Israeli action, Hizbullah front men will have trouble opening an account. You take away their funding and the Jihais will dry up as well.
Posted by: Cyber Sarge || 07/25/2006 10:26 Comments || Top||

#8  If Nasrallah's still healthy and his communications are up to it, he ought to have something to say about this (claim there weren't any funds there, claim these were zionist banks - ha ha, etc. within 24 hours.
Posted by: mhw || 07/25/2006 10:59 Comments || Top||

#9  Again on Fox they reported that TV stations all around Beirut are going boom. I think Nazi will have a hard time getting face time.
Posted by: cruiser || 07/25/2006 11:13 Comments || Top||

#10  I'm with PR. This is unexcuseable. Someone needs to get real prison time for it. This is criminal at best. Even treasonous perhaps.
Posted by: Mike N. || 07/25/2006 11:22 Comments || Top||

#11  It might have less destructive, albeit just as effective, to refer him to my financial advisor.
Posted by: kelly || 07/25/2006 17:53 Comments || Top||

#12  Too bad there wasn't an attempt to swipe it all.
Posted by: Pappy || 07/25/2006 20:58 Comments || Top||

Israeli missile hits south Lebanon house; 7 die
You knew it was coming... this kind of headline. And, of course, MSNBC sent this via email as a news alert. Sad.. Never have recieved one from them about Israeli's being killed.
BEIRUT, Lebanon - An Israeli missile struck a house in south Lebanon early Tuesday, killing seven people, hospital and security officials said. Another person, a woman, was wounded in the attack in the market town of Nabatiyeh, officials said.

It was not immediately clear why Israel targeted the house, which belonged to a man named Mohammed Ghandour. He and his son were among the seven killed.

On Monday, backed by tanks, Israeli troops battled their way to a key Hezbollah stronghold in south Lebanon, seizing a hilltop in heavy fighting and capturing two guerrillas. The U.S. completed its evacuation of almost 12,000 Americans and said it would switch to bringing in humanitarian aid. On the 13th day of Israel’s offensive, its forces moved one step deeper into Lebanon as U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice made her first diplomatic foray since the conflict began — and immediately met resistance.
The rest of the article is the usual garbage. Can you tell? I'm about to get fed up with this kind of stuff.
Posted by: Sherry || 07/25/2006 00:49 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [366 views] Top|| File under:

#1  and? Um so what. Sucks when people die. The terrorists put their things where people live. Doing so they and the people they decided to put their war material right next too lost all protection from the rules of war and 'international law." The Media and muslims just don't get it.

But then most of the media and and terrorists are one and the same in my book.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom || 07/25/2006 2:54 Comments || Top||

#2  Its as if the U.S. media gave equal time to Der Sturmer during WW II. A product of multiculturalism gone wild... (all viewpoints and cultures have equal validity) This is an illness which reifies a fifth column in our midst.
Posted by: borgboy || 07/25/2006 2:57 Comments || Top||

#3  "An Israeli missile struck a house in south Lebanon early Tuesday, killing seven people, hospital and security officials said. Another person, a woman, was wounded in the attack in the market town of Nabatiyeh, officials said."

Okay, let's parse this, shall we? The missile killed 7 "people" and injured one "woman". What was the age/gender of the "people"? 7 men in their 20's and one woman?

The seven people were in a town in "Southern Lebanon" which means they had been warned to evacuate.

I am sorry but I would have to question the sanity of anyone staying in a house in "Southern Lebanon" at this point.
Posted by: crosspatch || 07/25/2006 3:56 Comments || Top||

#4  But it's peachy for the Hezb's to blindy throw barrage rockets into Israeli towns. Murderous assholes and their MSM allies.
Posted by: cruiser || 07/25/2006 4:00 Comments || Top||

#5  It's already been said but it bears keeping in mind: Terror tactics use civilian deaths to fuel outrage. Overplay that hand and you risk ennui and indifference.

I think Lebanese are some of the best people in the world but they better get on the phone, email, machine gun, whatever, and help root out the Hezzbollah. Otherwise, they're f*cked.

Help yourselves by joining Civilization's struggle against these pukes.
Posted by: JDB || 07/25/2006 4:04 Comments || Top||

#6  More information from Haaretz:

IAF jets fired a missile at the house in the market town of Nabatiyeh, destroying it and killing its owner, a man named Mohammed Ghandour, his wife and five children, the sources said. It was not immediately clear why the IAF had targeted the house.

So it looks like most of them were kids. I hope for Hezbollah's sake they didn't prevent these people from leaving.
Posted by: crosspatch || 07/25/2006 4:21 Comments || Top||

#7  Will it matter to the MSM if they didn't?
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom || 07/25/2006 4:35 Comments || Top||

#8  Well, I wouldn't exactly be worried about final judgement from Katie Couric.
Posted by: crosspatch || 07/25/2006 4:48 Comments || Top||

#9  Good chance they were killed by counterbattery fire directed at a missile launch point - possibly Hezbollah had set up a mobile launcher in their yard, launched, and took off. They do that with or without the cooperation (or maybe even knowledge) of the residents.
Posted by: glenmore || 07/25/2006 7:17 Comments || Top||

#10  Good call, glenmore. Fits the facts.
Posted by: cruiser || 07/25/2006 7:26 Comments || Top||

#11  This is really good news: to hear the Israelis are now making this an artillery duel. They just need to get faster to get the bastards who are firing artillery rockets.

Hope the response time gets better along with the accuracy.
Posted by: badanov || 07/25/2006 8:07 Comments || Top||

#12  Will it matter to the MSM if they didn't?

I think the MSM would be pissed if they did allow the civilians to leave. 'Isreal missle hits empty house' isn't as good as story as 'Isreal missle kills 7 and wounds one'.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 07/25/2006 8:26 Comments || Top||

#13  Stuff the MSM in the house with Hezbollah and nature will take care of the rest.
Posted by: DarthVader || 07/25/2006 9:25 Comments || Top||

#14  If you think this story is exciting. Get a load of this. Yesterday, Israel was accused of using white phosphorus against Hezbollah. In a classic non-denial denial. Israel states that they are abiding by all international laws and incendiary weapons are within the law. The gloves are off and my wish has finally been granted. I hope Allah has plenty of (Virgins&ViagraTM) in stock.

Here is a quote from Global Security:"The use of flame weapons, such as Fougasse, the M202A1 Flash, white phosphorous, thermobaric, and other incendiary agents, against military targets is not a violation of current international law."

Posted by: Poison Reverse || 07/25/2006 9:57 Comments || Top||

#15  Human shields only work if they deter your adversary from striking out of fear of killing "innocents", fear of the MSM's negative portrayals, or fear of "International Public Opinion". Israel has no such hang ups. Good for them.
Posted by: mcsegeek1 || 07/25/2006 11:18 Comments || Top||

#16  Yeah, sad isn't it
Posted by: Hupuse Snamp6542 || 07/25/2006 14:09 Comments || Top||

#17  They had to be civilians!! There were only five AK's in the house and they were only shooting at the IDF on weekends........completely innocent.

When are they going to show some footage of the damage being done in Isreal?

I quit watching MSNBC and CNN while I was in Iraq.....They were obviously not talking about the same Baghdad I was moving around in.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom || 07/25/2006 15:07 Comments || Top||

#18  Again the previous post is not from me.
This person doesn't get it apperently.
The mods will fix your stupidity.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom || 07/25/2006 17:06 Comments || Top||

#19  Note to the Real SPoD:

Fred will have to fix this mess tonight, hang in there.

Note to the Fake Ass SPoD:

Knock it off already, you're not impressing anyone.
Posted by: Seafarious || 07/25/2006 17:20 Comments || Top||

#20  According to the much vaunted Geneva Convention, you so much as put a bb gun on the roof of an orphanage it becomes a legitimate military target.

"It was not immediately clear why Israel targeted the house, which belonged to a man named Mohammed Ghandour."

Hmmmmm....let me put my thinking cap on.....
Posted by: kelly || 07/25/2006 18:21 Comments || Top||

#21  Real SpoD
The fake's comments seem to be pretty reasonable - maybe he just needs to reset his cookies or something innocent like that. Or maybe he really is a jerk. (Or maybe you are having some short-term memory loss issues? - Ow!, don't throw another lamp at me! Ow! I'm sorry!)
Posted by: Glenmore || 07/25/2006 18:57 Comments || Top||

#22  LOL Glenmore remeber duck.
We had this 'problem' last week.
The polite method has been tried. It failed apperently.

Back on topic.

No protection under the rules of war

All of the deaths in Leabanon were and are caused by Hezb'allah. Their decision to place their army in with the civilian population caused any actual civilian fatalities. Any claims of "humanitarian crimes" are rightly directed at Hizb'allah, Iran and Syria. Israel has the right to take out any infrastructure that can be used to supply those to commited the continuing agressive acts that precipitated the current situation.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom || 07/25/2006 19:10 Comments || Top||

#23  It was not immediately clear why Israel targeted the house...

Maybe counter-battery, maybe an accident - Mr Murphy never takes the day off just because you have good intentions. Or just maybe it was deliberate targeting of enemy combatants.

Earlier, a repeated news story was a blue van that got smoked for no apparent reason. I suspect the Israelis have more than a few intelligence sources that would like to see some HB players removed from the game.
Posted by: SteveS || 07/25/2006 21:05 Comments || Top||

Battle Map of South Lebanon
Posted by: 3dc || 07/25/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [342 views] Top|| File under:

#1  UNIFIL. As useful as mammary glands on male swine.
Posted by: GK || 07/25/2006 9:56 Comments || Top||

#2  Anyone know where the Sheba'a farms might be on the map?
Posted by: Baba Tutu || 07/25/2006 13:53 Comments || Top||

#3  Look at this map here:

Shebaa Farms is a disputed agricultural area consisting of a dozen or so abandoned farms located southwest of Shebaa, a Lebanese village on the northwestern slopes of Mount Hermon, at the junction of Syria, Lebanon and Israel. The area is about 14 kilometres (8.7 mi) in length and averages 2.5 kilometres (1.6 mi) in width, at altitudes of 150 to 1,880 meters (490–6,170 ft). This fertile and well-watered farm land produced barley, fruits and vegetables. There is controversy about whether the Shebaa Farms are part of Lebanon or the Golan Heights, a region claimed by both Israel and Syria.

The region was captured by Israel from Syria during the Six Day War of 1967 and remained under Israeli control after the withdrawal of Israeli forces from southern Lebanon in 2000. The Lebanese refer to the ridge at the northern end of the Shebaa Farms area as the Kafr Shuba Hills, an area that Israel refers to as Har Dov. This ridge, also partly within Lebanon, is east of the Lebanese village of Kafr Shuba.
Posted by: Steve || 07/25/2006 14:22 Comments || Top||

#4  a more updated version with current progress
Posted by: 3dc || 07/25/2006 15:23 Comments || Top||

#5  Examining the current campaign I get the feeling that Isreal is following hezbollah game plan.Attacking well fortified positions.Looking at the maps(both 3dc and topographic)I wish Isreal would stage out of metulla to cut southern lebonon from bekka valley.There are many hillsides in this AO to establish a firebase.Such a base would cut off resupply to the south and provide a Hezi magnet for counterattack,intead of them waiting in their bunkers.It would also serve to get asshats knickers in a twist as well as open a new front from which to attack lebanon.
Posted by: AlterEgo || 07/25/2006 18:40 Comments || Top||

Three rockets land near Kiryat Shmona
Three Katyusha rockets landed in open areas near Kiryat Shmona on Monday night. No one was reported wounded in the attack, and no damage was caused.
Posted by: Fred || 07/25/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [328 views] Top|| File under:

Two rockets land in open area near northern border
Two Hizbullah-fired rockets landed in an open area near the northern border on Monday night. No one was wounded in the attack, nor was damaged caused.
Posted by: Fred || 07/25/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [322 views] Top|| File under:

IDF kills two Hizbullah operatives in Bint Jbeil
The IDF killed two Hizbullah operatives in Bint Jbeil in southern Lebanon on Monday night. Two soldiers were killed and some 20 were wounded in the extensive operation in the town, considered to be Hizbullah's "terror capital."
Posted by: Fred || 07/25/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [309 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Many, many more to follow
Posted by: Captain America || 07/25/2006 0:27 Comments || Top||

#2  Two Hezzies? At the expense of two Israelis killed and 20 wounded? These guys are probably Golanis, some of the best soldiers Israel has to offer. This makes less sense than the Syrian ambassador! Any more details that makes this seem more worthwhile, like 1000 bad guys arrested or something?
Posted by: gorb || 07/25/2006 1:13 Comments || Top||

#3  the town, considered to be Hizbullah's "terror capital."

This is part of the ugly work of this war. They'll count Hizb'allah casualties later, if at all, once they have the area controlled, I imagine. Yitgadal v'yitkadash Sh'mai rabah. Magnified and sanctified is the name of the Lord. (The first line of the Jewish prayer for the dead.)
Posted by: trailing wife || 07/25/2006 7:22 Comments || Top||

#4  Multiply any reported Hezzie casualties by at least a factor of 10 if you want something closer to the truth. Israel is knocking the sh*t out of them.
Posted by: mcsegeek1 || 07/25/2006 15:20 Comments || Top||

4 peacekeepers wounded in IDF-Hizbullah crossfire
Four UN Interim Force in Lebanon (UNIFIL) peacekeepers were wounded by crossfire between the IDF and Hizbullah early Tuesday morning. It was not clear which side was responsible for the wounding of the four peacekeepers, one of whom was hurt seriously and evacuated, a UN official said, speaking on condition of anonymity for fear of angering the two sides.
Posted by: Fred || 07/25/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [328 views] Top|| File under:

#1  This is a hot war, no longer a ceasefire to be monitored. Why on earth haven't the peacekeepers been removed?
Posted by: trailing wife || 07/25/2006 7:23 Comments || Top||

#2  "Why on earth haven't the peacekeepers been removed?"
Maybe they don't want to leave their 13-year old sweeties?
Posted by: glenmore || 07/25/2006 7:26 Comments || Top||

#3  If it was not so sad it would be hugely funny.
Posted by: kelly || 07/25/2006 10:15 Comments || Top||

#4  I wonder of the 'peacekeepers' were non-combatants or were spotting for Hezbullah......
Posted by: CrazyFool || 07/25/2006 10:47 Comments || Top||

#5  Don't think peacekeepers are welcome at the present time, thank you.
Posted by: Captain America || 07/25/2006 18:06 Comments || Top||

Paleos stranded at Syrian border
Irony so thick you can't even cut it with a knife:
The UN is urgently appealing to Damascus to ease restrictions at the Syria-Lebanon border to allow Palestinians fleeing Lebanon to enter. "There are 200 Palestinians stranded at border points; some on the main Damascus-Beirut route, others at Dabboussyah near the border governorate of Homs," Panos Moumtzis, director of the UN Relief Works Agency (UNRWA) in Syria, told IRIN on Monday.

More than 100,000 people, mostly Syrian but including Lebanese and other foreign nationals, have fled ongoing Israeli attacks and crossed into Syria since 12 July. Some 150 Palestinians have crossed into Damascus since the crisis started. A source at the Syrian Immigration Department, who wished to remain unnamed, told IRIN that only Palestinians who have residency visas in Lebanon or who need urgent medical care could enter "in a normal way". Those without relevant documentation must have special permission, which takes several hours to be granted.

Many of the 400,000 Palestinians in Lebanon do not have rights or residency status or even documents with them when fleeing. UNRWA has requested Damascus to allow these Palestinians to cross the borders quickly on humanitarian grounds. "Syria has been traditionally and historically very generous with the Palestinians and also gives them equal rights the same as its citizens. We hope that this generosity will also be applied to those fleeing an impossible situation," Moumtzis said. UNRWA has established emergency response units in Syria to receive Palestinians in UNRWA-run schools in Damascus and the Yarmouk refugee camp, 8km south of Damascus. Food, medical supplies, blankets and mattresses are provided.
Perhaps Syria could keep them.
The mattresses or the paleos?
Palestinian refugee Asiya and her 18 family members took a treacherous journey from the Ain al-Helwah refugee camp, in southern Lebanon on the border with Israel, to Syria. She and her family are now staying in a school in Yarmouk camp. She says she had a lucky escape. "We don't have any money… we ran away and couldn't bring anything with us. We are now dependent on UNRWA's assistance." Kheir Ghizlani from the Bekaa Valley in Lebanon says there were 3,000 Palestinians there "....Israeli shells were falling close to our camp," Ghizlani said. Ghizlani says her father was in critical condition and despite not having documents they were allowed in. "We were allowed in for humanitarian reasons, despite not meeting the requirements, as my father was in need of urgent medical care."

Moumtzis says UNRWA is working closely with UN agencies and the Syrian Red Moon-Shaped Thingy Crescent. "The Syrian Red Moon-Shaped Thingy Crescent has done extraordinary work in terms of coping with the situation," he says. "At the moment, what is happening is a humanitarian crisis and tragedy with tens of thousands of civilians who have crossed the borders into Syria seeking a safe place." The UNRWA official appealed for funds, asking donor countries to contribute additional money to assist Palestinians.
Posted by: Seafarious || 07/25/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [340 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Note to Paleos: Beat it, we're closed. Go blow yourself up (or something)
Posted by: Captain America || 07/25/2006 0:29 Comments || Top||

#2  Most muslim countries only want the Palestinians around to be a thorn in Israel's side. Nobody wants them. They barely let them across borders when they need urgent medical care because of how bad it looks. Just a few years ago I think Egypt told several to beat it under just those circumstances, and they got beat up in the press and it raised all sorts of interesting questions that they would rather not deal with more than they disdained the Palestinians. SSDD.
Posted by: gorb || 07/25/2006 1:45 Comments || Top||

#3  The hypocrasy is amazing in the Arab world.
Posted by: DarthVader || 07/25/2006 7:51 Comments || Top||

#4  flashback to Fallen Timbers, when General Wayne's army defeated and pursued the natives of Indiana/Ohio tribes right up to the gates of British fort [on American territory]. Although the Brits had been arming and encouraging the natives in their activities against the Americans, they choose not to open the gates to allow their, up till then, allies in for fear that Wayne's little army would raise the fort.

It's interesting, that the North American natives were used by the French against the British and colonists. After their departure and American independence, the British would employ the natives against their former subjects from 1777 through 1815. The big losers were the natives. It also established the mindset in nearly all future dealings between Americans and the natives. In contemporary history, the Paleos were used by the Soviets and now by their fellow Arab and Islamic brethren. Anyone know of an independent Indian [not subcontinent] state? He who does not learn from history...
Posted by: Whomogum Creremble6430 || 07/25/2006 9:18 Comments || Top||

#5  "Closed. Beat it. Vamoose. Amscray. Take a hike."
Posted by: mojo || 07/25/2006 9:55 Comments || Top||

#6  Paleos can be counted on to do what they do best....flee.
Posted by: wxjames || 07/25/2006 10:47 Comments || Top||

#7  So what are refugee refugees called? Does this start another 60 years of pissing and moaning and living off of the international tit? UNRWA II?
Posted by: tu3031 || 07/25/2006 10:49 Comments || Top||

#8  Whatever you call it, be sure to send cash!
Posted by: Seafarious || 07/25/2006 10:53 Comments || Top||

#9  Lots and lots of cash.
Posted by: Seafarious || 07/25/2006 10:53 Comments || Top||

#10  3000, that sure is a lot of Mossad agents. Where did they source al those Paleo outfits?
Posted by: Jake-the-peg || 07/25/2006 15:28 Comments || Top||

Good morning...
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Posted by: Fred || 07/25/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [447 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Aethiopia?
Posted by: Seafarious || 07/25/2006 12:11 Comments || Top||

#2  The older spelling, Seafarious. Although really it's that funny linked linked thingy that British Latin scholars use, and we Americans don't. How charming to see it unexpectedly here at Rantburg -- thanks, Fred!
Posted by: trailing wife || 07/25/2006 13:11 Comments || Top||

#3  Or just one linked, but you understand what I meant.
Posted by: trailing wife || 07/25/2006 13:12 Comments || Top||

#4  Æthopia.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 07/25/2006 13:25 Comments || Top||

#5  At least I got the first letter or two correct.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 07/25/2006 13:26 Comments || Top||

#6  Aethiopia?

You mean you're actually supposed to read the front page?
Posted by: Xbalanke || 07/25/2006 13:47 Comments || Top||

#7  Also once known as Abyssinia. Yeah, I read the front page ... eventually.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 07/25/2006 14:23 Comments || Top||

#8  I couldn't remember the combination to form to AE character...

I'm getting old. Mind's going... Maybe gone...
Posted by: Fred || 07/25/2006 14:23 Comments || Top||

#9  On a Mac you just go to Finder/Edit/Special Characters/Accented Latin and there it is. Easy. They've even got the Ð & ð.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 07/25/2006 14:30 Comments || Top||

#10  Thanks æver so.
Posted by: Seafarious || 07/25/2006 15:34 Comments || Top||

#11  Macs are Cute!
But XP is Hard!
Posted by: Computer Barbie || 07/25/2006 17:18 Comments || Top||

#12  Hey, don't look at me! I do not even know how to make a (Tm)!
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 07/25/2006 17:24 Comments || Top||

#13  ™ gives you ™, A5089. And Æ gives you Æ.
Posted by: Eric Jablow || 07/25/2006 18:30 Comments || Top||

#14  Damn! Adele, was a fine looking woman!
Posted by: RJB in JC MO || 07/25/2006 20:09 Comments || Top||

#15  Test:

Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 07/25/2006 20:45 Comments || Top||

#16  Cool, Eric! :-D
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 07/25/2006 20:45 Comments || Top||

#17  Ænima is one of my favorite albums.

Cool, I'll file that one away.
Posted by: xbalanke || 07/25/2006 21:10 Comments || Top||

#18  I dig that, xbalanke.

Drop me a line if you want tickets next time they come to Boston.
Posted by: Raj || 07/25/2006 21:35 Comments || Top||

#19  Fred, do you think you can put a permanent link up to one of the HTML cheatsheet sites?
Posted by: Eric Jablow || 07/25/2006 22:42 Comments || Top||

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