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2006-06-03 Great White North
Arrests in terror raid
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Posted by ryuge 2006-06-03 07:15|| || Front Page|| [1 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 No "disenfranchised youth" claims yet. I like the blame squarely on parents and mullahs. Refreshing.

Probably won't last past the news conference today tho'. I'll expect the Toronto Star to start banging the "poor youths" drum first.

As a result of the highly suppressed political discourse in Canada, the domestic response to this growing problem has been limited."

PC to the death, how Canadian. Nice to see the RCMP take down the terrorist training camp in Barry's Bay tho'.

Locals being interviewed on the news now are "shocked", just "shocked".

Media are also starting to relate this to the UK arrests.
Posted by Thinemp Whimble2412 2006-06-03 09:31||   2006-06-03 09:31|| Front Page Top

#2 Looks as if Internet Monitoring had a lot to do with CSIS' Investigation. Of course, were this the NSA, the MSM would be outraged.
Posted by doc 2006-06-03 09:50||   2006-06-03 09:50|| Front Page Top

#3 Oh ... and the Tim Horton's mention in the link I cited ... I wonder if there were any connection to THIS?
Posted by doc 2006-06-03 09:58||   2006-06-03 09:58|| Front Page Top

#4 3 tons of ammonium nitrate seized. That is a whackload of explosives.

The CBC has already dragged out a University professor (Montreal) explaining that evil western policies are what "radicalize" the muslims. Voila! The 12 arrested are instant victims and it's all our fault as Canadians.

Time elapsed for this reponse from the end of the press conference? Six minutes. Same Prof also said that we would consider a basketball recreational camp a "training camp" and so we dhimmies mustn't leap to any conclusions.

The CBC is unbelievable.
Posted by Thinemp Whimble2412 2006-06-03 10:41||   2006-06-03 10:41|| Front Page Top

#5 doc : Oh ... and the Tim Horton's mention in the link I cited ... I wonder if there were any connection to THIS?

not sure I follow? refering to design traps?
Posted by RD 2006-06-03 11:34||   2006-06-03 11:34|| Front Page Top

#6 From link ...

Explosion at Tim's

Not many details on this yet:

A man has died in an explosion at a Tim Hortons outlet in downtown Toronto on Sunday and the investigation has tied up traffic at one of the city's busiest intersections, police say.

The blast took place just after 1 p.m. EDT at the doughnut store, which is on Yonge Street near the intersection with Bloor Street.

Toronto Police Service Insp. Nick Memme said it was not known yet whether the victim was a customer or an employee.

Memme said the explosion occurred "in the washroom area" at the back of the shop.

Until there's evidence to suggest otherwise, I'm assuming this was an accident or, at most, the work of a lone nut. (If you wanted to carry out a high-profile terror attack in Toronto, a Tim's would have to rank pretty low on the list of targets.) But if terrorists are striking at our Tim Horton's outlets, the wrath of the Canadian people will come down on them hard.

Update: unconfirmed reports say a guy with explosives strapped to his chest walked in just before the explosion. If that's the case, the sole victim is almost certainly the bomber.

Update II: officials say it wasn't a suicide bombing

Story from April 2006
Posted by doc 2006-06-03 12:26||   2006-06-03 12:26|| Front Page Top

#7 Well sh*t. This explains the noticable cop presence at Pearson Int'l Airport yesterday. Private security nowhere to be seen, all cops instead.

Message for CSIS: CANADIAN IMMIGRATION IS BROKEN! You wanna learn what some immigrants are saying nowadays? Plant an agent inside any private security firm in the GTA. You'll soon learn all you need to know.

One problem is this: the government gives prospective immigrants points for possessing certain skills, education, language, etc. They come here thinking they are qualified, but then they can't get certified to work in their fields because of the various barriers put in front of them. The parents cry racism, and the kids become radicalized. I've heard this over and over: "coming to Canada was a mistake." (Funny thing is though, they don't want to leave either though some have expressed an interest in going south to the U.S.).

I'm not against immigrants. For every disillusioned immigrant I've met, there's two that are happy and prosperous. But that's still not acceptable. If you want to examine where this radicalization begins, start with immigration.

One more suggestion. It is not enough to test prospective immigrants on their willingness to accept Canadian values. A tell-tale sign would be to ask what they think of Americans. If they say that they love Canada, but "I hope the Americans die like rats [in Iraq*].", that should be an automatic disqualification. Believe it or not, it's a sentiment I heard quite often. Doesn't bode well if you ask me.

* for context, the conversation was about Iraq.

disclaimer: I don't work for the government and never did.
Posted by Rafael 2006-06-03 12:46||   2006-06-03 12:46|| Front Page Top

#8 The Tim's incident is bizarre to say the least, but it most certainly wasn't the target of a terrorist bombing plot. There are far more tempting targets nearby: the prominent Jewish Community Centre 5 minutes away (which also houses a coffee shop), Hilel on the U of T campus, and the subway just underneath.

More likely, if it was terrorism, then that particular Tim's was a final prep area or something, and it went horribly wrong for the bomber.
Posted by Rafael 2006-06-03 12:56||   2006-06-03 12:56|| Front Page Top

#9 doc:

note: browser weirdness, when I clicked on your link>>..I wonder if there were any connection to THIS, with IE browser a blank page popped up.

after you commented in follow up, I tried the link again with Mozilla Firefox, viola the/my mysterious blankness completely evaporated!

»:-)
Posted by RD 2006-06-03 13:05||   2006-06-03 13:05|| Front Page Top

#10 doc:

note: browser weirdness, when I clicked on your link>>..I wonder if there were any connection to THIS, with IE browser a blank page popped up.

after you followed up and commented again, I tried the link again with Mozilla Firefox, viola the/my mysterious blankness completely evaporated!

thanks..

»:-)
Posted by RD 2006-06-03 13:08||   2006-06-03 13:08|| Front Page Top

#11 Here down south (America) the cops haunt the "Donut Shops" does the RCMP do the same at Tim Hortons?
If so, there's your motive, Kill some cops.
Posted by Redneck Jim 2006-06-03 14:59||   2006-06-03 14:59|| Front Page Top

#12 If they say that they love Canada, but "I hope the Americans die like rats [in Iraq*].", that should be an automatic disqualification. Believe it or not, it's a sentiment I heard quite often. Doesn't bode well if you ask me.

From immigrants or natives? 'Cause I've heard as much from US citizens.
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