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2006-05-23 China-Japan-Koreas
China companies to move into Coal to Liquid conversion in a major way
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Posted by 3dc 2006-05-23 00:16|| || Front Page|| [3 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 As I pointed out yesterday, the world has abundant coal and there is therefore no prospect of a coal OPEC. It also means coal prices will be less (and probably a lot less) volatile than oil prices.
Posted by phil_b">phil_b  2006-05-23 00:59|| http://autonomousoperation.blogspot.com/]">[http://autonomousoperation.blogspot.com/]  2006-05-23 00:59|| Front Page Top

#2 No need to imprort Coal for China, Russia, The US, Canada. Who needs Islamic and Marxist oil really?

Charity begins at home. Gasification and liquidising of coal does too.
Posted by Sock Puppet of Doom 2006-05-23 01:33||   2006-05-23 01:33|| Front Page Top

#3 Somebody is getting a clue.
Posted by gromgoru 2006-05-23 05:25||   2006-05-23 05:25|| Front Page Top

#4 Hell, the Nazis did it in WW2 while they were getting their a$$es bombed to smithereens. No reason why we cannot do it.
Posted by Alaska Paul">Alaska Paul  2006-05-23 10:02||   2006-05-23 10:02|| Front Page Top

#5 Produces CO2 ya say? Well, if ya are concerned about production of CO2, ya better quit breathing, that's the ticket. I remember the Pogo comic strip by Walt Kelly had an episode about a bunch of critters forming a group of non-breathers.
Posted by Alaska Paul">Alaska Paul  2006-05-23 10:04||   2006-05-23 10:04|| Front Page Top

#6 yeah and best of luck to them.

but why not use ethanol/methanol now when we already have the technology and can use it. Why are we always waiting for something new.
Posted by anon1 2006-05-23 11:03||   2006-05-23 11:03|| Front Page Top

#7 I run a race car on methanol every weekend. There are a couple of problems with it.

1st. Fuel mileage. You get about half the mileage you do with gasoline. Imagine the poor engineers that have to figure out a way to put an extra 13 gallons into a compact cars gas tank in order to go the same distance on tank. Not the biggest problem, but a fuel mileage thing leads to a cost problem.

2nd. It's about two bucks a gallon now. Perhap if increasing supply could get it down to $1.50 or less per gallon the cost would be manageable.

3rd. You need to run at least 12.5-1 compression for methanol to burn correctly. This kind of compression is hard on internal engine parts, as well as starters. Not desireable from an O.E. standpoint.

Now this additional compression could offset some of the fuel mileage penalty, and therefore some of the additional cost, but not nearly enough I suspect.
Posted by Mike N. 2006-05-23 12:50||   2006-05-23 12:50|| Front Page Top

#8 Quarter-Miler Mike N?
Posted by 6 2006-05-23 16:42||   2006-05-23 16:42|| Front Page Top

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