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2006-05-12 Home Front: WoT
Sparing Moussaoui
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Posted by ryuge 2006-05-12 04:04|| || Front Page|| [3 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 I disagree with The hammer to an extent--I'd've voted to string Moussaoui up by a pig-leather noose--but he makes an honorable argument against the death penalty.

As to the unsuitability of civillian courts for this sort of thing, he's dead on.
Posted by Mike 2006-05-12 06:37||   2006-05-12 06:37|| Front Page Top

#2 Albert Speer knew a lot more about a lot more killing, and yet the Nuremberg court spared him execution. It's hard to argue that Moussaoui was a greater monster than Speer.

Keep in mind though WHY the Nuremberg jury spared Speer: he showed genuine remorse for what he did. Moussaoui will go to his grave unrepentant, screaming insanity and malediction to the last.

Mike
Posted by Mike Kozlowski 2006-05-12 06:57||   2006-05-12 06:57|| Front Page Top

#3 Speer took dangerous steps at the near the end of WWII that mitigated his prior offenses.
Posted by 6 2006-05-12 08:18||   2006-05-12 08:18|| Front Page Top

#4 We need no more lessons in the obvious: Civilian court -- with civilian procedures, civilian juries and civilian sensibilities -- is not the place for those who make war upon us.

Abolutely correct. And we may well lose this war exactly because most people don't believe this to be true.
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-05-12 08:28||   2006-05-12 08:28|| Front Page Top

#5 "But if you're going to execute someone, you ought to prove commission, rather than omission."

And even if Moussaoui had completly spilled his guts; do you beleive the FBI and TSA would have had the wherewithall to have prevented the attack? The prosecutions misconduct in this case suggests they were'nt confident they could prove that. I have serious doubts myself.
Posted by DepotGuy 2006-05-12 09:10||   2006-05-12 09:10|| Front Page Top

#6 Don't forget, too, that pre-9/11 there was no TSA.
Posted by Mike 2006-05-12 10:36||   2006-05-12 10:36|| Front Page Top

#7 The real, sweet irony of it all is that Moussaoui didn't think he could get a fair trial. He thought he was in a kangaroo court and they'd string him up no matter what. But he did get a fair trial. And now, knowing that, he wants a do-over. Especially because he'll be in solitary confinement 23 hours a day for the rest of his life. Sweet. Better than the death penalty.
Posted by PlanetDan">PlanetDan  2006-05-12 10:55||   2006-05-12 10:55|| Front Page Top

#8 CS Lewis wrote what is perhaps the most eloquent argument for the death penalty I've ever read:
Posted by mcsegeek1 2006-05-12 11:19||   2006-05-12 11:19|| Front Page Top

#9 Sorry, the link did not work. Here it is:

http://www.angelfire.com/pro/lewiscs/humanitarian.html
Posted by mcsegeek1 2006-05-12 11:21||   2006-05-12 11:21|| Front Page Top

#10 PlaneDan is right. High-five to the jurors.
Posted by Mike N. 2006-05-12 11:22||   2006-05-12 11:22|| Front Page Top

#11 I'm usually a Cap Punishment advocate. In this case, should he REALLY (no slashing sentences, judiciary!) have to serve life in that hell hole solitary confinement...then I'm OK.. I imagine him screaming, crying, and whimpering to a spasmodic end, not unlike Islam in this century
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2006-05-12 18:01||   2006-05-12 18:01|| Front Page Top

#12 He stands a fair chance of being the Last Living Islamist. One way of saying I hope he "lives" another 40 years.
Posted by Gleresing Jomolet9901 2006-05-12 18:10||   2006-05-12 18:10|| Front Page Top

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