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2006-04-06 Southeast Asia
Indonesia to get its own Playboy
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Posted by ryuge 2006-04-06 07:51|| || Front Page|| [5 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Goddammit! We said no titties!
Posted by Learned Elders of Islam 2006-04-06 09:19||   2006-04-06 09:19|| Front Page Top

#2 Can't wait for the Unabashed Islamic Dictionary.
Posted by ed 2006-04-06 09:23||   2006-04-06 09:23|| Front Page Top

#3 Playboy without nude pictures, kinda like dehydrated water.
Posted by anonymous5089 2006-04-06 09:53||   2006-04-06 09:53|| Front Page Top

#4 I don't know,that's a pretty YUMMIE pic. Makes you use yor' 'magination
Posted by ARMYGUY 2006-04-06 09:59||   2006-04-06 09:59|| Front Page Top

#5 I have no imagination. I like nekkid.
Posted by Fred 2006-04-06 10:15||   2006-04-06 10:15|| Front Page Top

#6 These gals will flop
Posted by Captain America 2006-04-06 10:19||   2006-04-06 10:19|| Front Page Top

#7 One of our correspondents in Batavia will be sending us scans of the flesh, no doubt.
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-04-06 10:21||   2006-04-06 10:21|| Front Page Top

#8 In the early 70s the wife graduated from college and went to be with her father who was building a huge factory in Indonesia. They spent a long time touring Bali as the rural women were still topless in those days and her dad liked looking...

She swore that they had the most beautiful breasts on the planet. She's never showed me any photos to prove that statement.

I guess this Islamic Playboy won't be printing rural scenes from Bali.

(Of course Bali is Hindu and Buddhist with only minor Islamic population)
Posted by 3dc 2006-04-06 11:47||   2006-04-06 11:47|| Front Page Top

#9 hmm. Batavia is only a short distance away. FermiLab?

anyway...

do a google search on "odalisque"
wikipedia defines it here:
definiation of Odalisque


An odalisque was a female slave or concubine in the Ottoman Seraglio, tending to the harem of the Turkish sultan. The word appears in a French form, and originates from the Turkish odalık, meaning "chambermaid", from oda, "chamber" or "room". Various writers spell the word as odahlic, odalisk, and odaliq.

An odalisque was not a concubine of the harem, but she could possibly become one. Odalisques were the virgin slaves of the harem, where they were at the bottom of the social ladder, serving not the sultan himself but rather his concubines and wives as personal chambermaids. Odalisques were usually given as gifts to the sultan, and many Georgian and Caucasian families even urged their daughters to enter the harem as slaves in the hopes that they would become a palace concubine, favored slave, or wife of the sultan.

An odalisque was generally never seen by the sultan, but instead was under the direct supervision of the Valide sultan. If an odalisque was of extraordinary beauty or had exceptional talent in dancing or singing, she would be trained as a possible concubine. If called for, an odalisque trained as a concubine would serve the sultan sexually, and only after such sexual use would she change in status, becoming thenceforth a concubine. In the Ottoman Empire, concubines provided the equivalent of a one-night stand in modern times, and would only see the sultan again if they were especially skilled in dance, singing, or the sexual arts, and had thus caught his attention. If by chance the concubine's time with the sultan resulted in the birth of a son, she would become one of his wives.

In popular usage, the word odalisque may also loosely refer to a mistress, concubine, or paramour of a wealthy man.

* In Western culture odalisques became common 19th century fantasy figures in the artistic movement known as Orientalism; they feature in many erotic paintings from that era.

* A song by The Decemberists speaks of the Odalisques with some fairly provocative lyrics: "Lay your belly under mine/Naked under me, under me/Such a filthy dimming shine/The way you kick and scream, kick and scream"
Posted by 3dc 2006-04-06 12:01||   2006-04-06 12:01|| Front Page Top

#10 I look forward to "Playboy: Braille"...
Posted by tu3031 2006-04-06 14:04||   2006-04-06 14:04|| Front Page Top

#11 Article: An odalisque was generally never seen by the sultan, but instead was under the direct supervision of the Valide sultan. If an odalisque was of extraordinary beauty or had exceptional talent in dancing or singing, she would be trained as a possible concubine. If called for, an odalisque trained as a concubine would serve the sultan sexually, and only after such sexual use would she change in status, becoming thenceforth a concubine. In the Ottoman Empire, concubines provided the equivalent of a one-night stand in modern times, and would only see the sultan again if they were especially skilled in dance, singing, or the sexual arts, and had thus caught his attention. If by chance the concubine's time with the sultan resulted in the birth of a son, she would become one of his wives.

This practice may have been imported from China, where it was the norm for thousands of years until the abolition of the Chinese monarchy in 1911. It was also widely copied by China's neighbors, including Japan, Korea and Vietnam. The hugely-popular (among East Asian countries) Korean costume drama Dae Jang Geum (available with English subs) provides an entertaining look at the court politics surrounding the king's women, essentially indentured servants - those who were neither concubine nor consort - during the Choson dynasty 400+ years ago. Emperor Hirohito was the first Japanese emperor not to have a harem. Both of his parents were the issue of concubines.

This practice wasn't limited to the royal family. Members of the nobility and wealthy individuals of common birth had the same traditions. It is only with the wholesale adoption of Western mores a century or so ago that polygamy in the Far East was abolished both for members of the royal family and commoners.
Posted by Zhang Fei 2006-04-06 15:09|| http://timurileng.blogspot.com]">[http://timurileng.blogspot.com]  2006-04-06 15:09|| Front Page Top

#12 FOAD Hugh Hef.

Pretty stupid move. If the West wants to win over the largest Moslem nation in the world, I suggest they show more respect for Indonesian social mores and customs. It would be different if the mag was generated by Indonesians, but it will be seen as an offense at bes,t and as an outright encroachment and attack on the society, at worst-- and the extremists will use it to justify trouble--which will be blamed on every Westerner, regardless. And look at Thailand. Porn leads to child porn. It's the nature of the industry. Too bad IMO.
Posted by ex-lib 2006-04-06 17:04||   2006-04-06 17:04|| Front Page Top

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