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2006-01-17 Home Front: Politix

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Posted by Dan Darling 2006-01-17 00:58|| || Front Page|| [11127 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 NYT, I love them. Hard hitting, insightful objective, and make the best s*it sandwiches I ever had.

Posted by Dhimmisquat 2006-01-17 07:03|| 2006-01-17 07:03|| Front Page Top

#2 The law enforcement and counterterrorism officials said the program had uncovered no active Qaeda networks inside the United States planning attacks. "There were no imminent plots - not inside the United States," the former F.B.I. official said.

Some of the officials said the eavesdropping program might have helped uncover people with ties to Al Qaeda in Albany; Portland, Ore.; and Minneapolis. Some of the activities involved recruitment, training or fund-raising.

These two paragraphs follow one another in the story.

They contradict each other.

The NYT does not realize that, or doesn't want us to realize that.

Stupid, dishonest, or both?

Posted by Robert Crawford">Robert Crawford 2006-01-17 07:55|| http://www.kloognome.com/]">[http://www.kloognome.com/] 2006-01-17 07:55|| Front Page Top

#3 And count on some overworked agent at the FBI to engage in an interagency spitting contest in public.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-01-17 07:57|| 2006-01-17 07:57|| Front Page Top

#4 "It's not our mess, and we're not going to clean it up."

'nuff said.

Posted by DepotGuy 2006-01-17 09:35|| 2006-01-17 09:35|| Front Page Top

#5 If the FBI had working computers instead of years of failure the requests would have been simple to process.
The FBI should quit trying to define what they need and just clone the CIA system and software.
If it takes the Prez to step in and make it so - so be it.

Posted by 3dc 2006-01-17 12:15|| 2006-01-17 12:15|| Front Page Top

#6 #5 If the FBI had working computers instead of years of failure the requests would have been simple to process.
The FBI should quit trying to define what they need and just clone the CIA system and software.
If it takes the Prez to step in and make it so - so be it.

Posted by: 3dc 2006-01-17 12:15

Ditto 3dc. The bureau's IT problems are all too well documented.

Posted by Besoeker 2006-01-17 12:48|| 2006-01-17 12:48|| Front Page Top

#7 Interesting...

Quickie: I wonder how many of the "dead ends" were actually due to insufficient Arabic translators -- or Islamonutz symps in the ranks. We've seen how the Fibbies can screw up (nicest way I can phrase it) in this regard. Their abject failure in this, even to the point of seeming to be entirely on the wrong side due to moronic PCism - or worse, cancels out much of what they bring to the table, IMHO.

The turf BS must stop if we are to succeed. Inept management must be shuffled out the door. Old Boy networks and HQ-itis must be tamed or broken or punished.

The Fibbies have hosed almost every opportunity (that becomes public - and surely everyone is aware that they are the ultimate publicity whores) to prove they are anything more than dogged lawyers with a top-notch forensics lab. They are best when telling the victim's survivors, "Yep, he's dead, alright. There were 17 perps, 462 co-conspirators, and 479 motives identified. If you'll look at this chart..."

Their Law Enforcement mantra, 70's era IT, and institutional blinders mean they pretty much suck in the preventative arena.

I figure this is primarily circle-the-wagons BS from the HQ clique cuz they're institutionally incapable of the job we need them to do now and incapable of changing the institution without a clearance sale at the top dawgs and middle wannabees levels who are invested in the existing system.

Posted by .com 2006-01-17 13:52|| 2006-01-17 13:52|| Front Page Top

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