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2006-01-17 Israel-Palestine-Jordan

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Posted by Anonymoose 2006-01-17 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11127 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 "The reason for the commotion was a protest against a new family that moved to the neighborhood and is "not religious enough," according to the protestors."

The ultra-orthodox jews are really whack/fanatic/bigoted/intolerant--hope everyone understands that. Better not to have illusions about them.

Posted by ex-lib 2006-01-17 00:12|| 2006-01-17 00:12|| Front Page Top

#2 Yea they really are "out there." That holds true for most of your utlra religious ~~wackjob, nut ball, lunatic, numbskulls~~ people of all faiths.

Posted by Sock Puppet OÂ´ Doom 2006-01-17 00:31|| 2006-01-17 00:31|| Front Page Top

#3 They were there before the State of Israel -- a few probably trace back to the original Jebusite inhabitants (pre-King David). Even when the Romans, Christians, and Muslims evicted them from the city, a core always remained and returned. But they are very tribal and very territorial, and not at all nice about it.

Posted by trailing wife 2006-01-17 08:39|| 2006-01-17 08:39|| Front Page Top

#4 Zoot suit riot?

Posted by Xbalanke 2006-01-17 11:36|| 2006-01-17 11:36|| Front Page Top

#5 well the Ultra-Orthdox in Boro Park Brooklyn arent like that, and the ones in Williamsburg seem able to deal with artist types fleeing the high rent areas of Manhattan. Partly this is just the guys in Jerusalem are more stirred up (IE crazy) but its also perhaps a reaction to some secular Israelis having been hostile to the ultra-orthodox moving into secular neighborhoods.

While the ultraOrthodox may not be paragons of openmindedness, Id be reluctant to charecterize this without more context.

Posted by liberalhawk 2006-01-17 12:08|| 2006-01-17 12:08|| Front Page Top

#6 At least they aren't blowing things up.

Posted by Deacon Blues">Deacon Blues 2006-01-17 12:29|| 2006-01-17 12:29|| Front Page Top

#7 and, IIUC, in Israel, they don't have to serve in the military. Leads to some resentment

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2006-01-17 13:15|| 2006-01-17 13:15|| Front Page Top

#8 Frank, but do they like Horses? Can they build neat furniture, sew quilts, and make jam?

Posted by Besoeker 2006-01-17 13:18|| 2006-01-17 13:18|| Front Page Top

#9 The ultra-orthodox jews are really whack/fanatic/bigoted/intolerant--hope everyone understands that. Better not to have illusions about them.

Spend some time with ultra-orthodox muslims and you will learn to love ultra-orthodox Jews.

Hint: Ultra-orthodox Jews don't crash planes on buildings, don't behead schoolgirls and don't call for exterminating infidels

Posted by t zero">t zero 2006-01-17 13:41|| 2006-01-17 13:41|| Front Page Top

#10 Agreed. At least some of them, however, are willing to knock an unaccompanied American woman to the ground in the souk in old Jerusalem for the offense of not automatically stepping aside as they walked down the sidewalk 4 abreast.

It not being MY land you see ....

The end guy who did it was careful not to contaminate himself by touching me directly - he used an armful of bags to do it.

1987. I was in the country to xfer military tech to the IDF's main contractor.

Posted by lotp 2006-01-17 13:47|| 2006-01-17 13:47|| Front Page Top

#11 They're worse than one might like to think, t zero. To the ultraJews, "infidels" are equal to cattle, and most of them (if they're being good jews) wish we weren't around. They're waiting for their g-d to knock us off the planet, and/or put us in their place, which they believe will happen when their temple is rebuilt and they're able to offer animal sacrifice again. Christians, Moslems, pagans--are all the same to the ultraJews. And I've known both Moslems and Jews--the ultra variety of either are not as different as could be supposed.

"Spend some time with ultra-orthodox muslims and you will learn to love ultra-orthodox Jews."v

Well, probably not. The governmental societal structures they live in prevent them from acting out their commitments. I knew this Iranian Jew once, who came to faith in Messiah (Jesus). When he was visiting his sister in Israel, the Lubavitchers kidnapped him and transported him back to New York, and stuffed him in one of their homes for the mentally ill. He only escaped with the help of Jews for Jesus. So kidnapping and imprisonment because of one's religious beliefs aren't my idea of a good time. Not to say the ultraIslamics are any better, as you said, "Ultra-orthodox Jews don't crash planes on buildings, don't behead schoolgirls and don't call for exterminating infidels." I'm just not sure they wouldn't if they had the chance and backing of their governments.

Posted by ex-lib 2006-01-17 20:47|| 2006-01-17 20:47|| Front Page Top

#12 Sorry for the formatting mistake, above.

I wanted to also mention that this individual was in college and has since become a very successful business man in Los Angeles, married another Jewish Iranian Christian, and is doing just fine. Definitely NOT insane.

Posted by ex-lib 2006-01-17 20:49|| 2006-01-17 20:49|| Front Page Top

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