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2006-01-12 Fifth Column
The Impeachment of George W. Bush by Elizabeth Holtzman
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Posted by Steve White 2006-01-12 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11127 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 T'aint it grand when Lefties whom espouse Regulation, Policratism and despotic Bureaucratism now complain about the same, espec when they know deep down that Socialism doesn't work and was always a lie. Will say again the only thing they have left is the MSM and Amer Hiroshimas - rumors of "impeachment" and investigating Repub Congresspersons isn't enough to save 2006 or 2008 or POTUS Hillary for them.
Posted by JosephMendiola 2006-01-12 00:24||   2006-01-12 00:24|| Front Page Top

#2 This impeachment is heady stuff for them. Read the 2006 elections as the 1974 elections. The left knows Nixon err Bush is going down, just like back then, they just know it.

The only problem is that the Nixon era was instructive, at least for me, on how to fight a war against terrorism. The front line is against our own defeatists and fifth colummnists, this person included, and in the most effective ways possible: By letting them speak and ridiculing their ideas.

No one is walking blind these days. We know what is at stake and so do the left. They don't see what's about to happen because they simply cannot fathom a military victory in the GWoT, after all the left has done to endanger US military operation and to hamstring our spooks in dealing with the murderous bastards still out there.

And they see the only way to forstall a US military victory is to take down Dubya.

I guess not enough dead Americans on the ground for them, at least they can try to make the Bush presidency a casualty of the war, at the hands of the fifth columnist left.

Doesn't anyone else think it is hilarious this woman first hints about political oppression (Finally, it has started. People have begun to speak of impeaching President George W. Bush--not in hushed whispers), then says in the very same sentance, there is not enough oppression to speak openly about impeachment?

Did she not read her own copy before publishing it?

Oh, and the Nation:

A creature of the First Communist International. That's right folks, started back in 1865 by the NY Hamilton Fish family, aorund the same time Karl Marx himself, the Rodney Dangerfield of economists was still alive, and now firmly in the hands of actor Paul Newman.

I can't believe I used to subscribe to that rag. What a waste of money.

F*cking wankers.

Seriously: Reading an article in The Nation is just like looking at an old flame ten years on and thinking: I use to hose that??
Posted by badanov 2006-01-12 00:50|| http://www.freefirezone.org/cgi-bin/index.pl]">[http://www.freefirezone.org/cgi-bin/index.pl]  2006-01-12 00:50|| Front Page Top

#3 Heh.

I watched every televised moment of the Watergate Hearings. It was Elizabeth Holtzman's one moment in the spotlight. After they were over, she nosedived right off the radar into oblivion. And yeah, she dressed and presented herself as "scholarly" - though nothing she said or did stood out.

Only old Sam Ervin made a serious impression. "Are you casting aspersions on my veracity?", he asked one witness in his inimitable drawl. Zoom! Off to the dictionary to verify the level of zip in "aspersions", lol. Of course, he is also known for this quote: "I'll have you understand I am running this court, and the law hasn't got a damn thing to do with it." Interesting to watch and hear, yeah. Saint Sam? Hardly.

John Dean was a welcome sight in court, cuz it meant Maureen would be sitting behind him and we could look at her while he droned.

The only other moment worthy of note was when Butterfield made the off-hand comment about the existence of recording equipment in the Oval Office.

Holtzman? Pfeh. Lightweight Lefty Loser who only wished she had Sam's presence and Barbara Jordan's oral delivery. 4 terms and wrote some utterly-forgettable books to stretch it out and pad her pockets. Good riddance.

It's little wonder that she'd want to relive her moment of "fame". She's just an oldie, now, dreaming of imagined former glory.
Posted by .com 2006-01-12 02:34||   2006-01-12 02:34|| Front Page Top

#4 .com-

Mo Dean....NOW yer cookin'. My parents could never understand why I developed such an interest in politics.

Mike
Posted by Mike Kozlowski 2006-01-12 05:45||   2006-01-12 05:45|| Front Page Top

#5 Surprised she didn't throw "the stolen Florida election of 2000" into the mix, or mention the "assasination of Paul Wellstone" or the "9/11 inside job" in to the mix. Naughty Lizzie! Just for that, I'm docking you 50 Moonbat Points for incomplete work.
Posted by Mike 2006-01-12 06:54||   2006-01-12 06:54|| Front Page Top

#6 A former buddy of mine who slid off into the shallow end of the DU/moveon.org pool about a year or two ago was talking like this - before I stopped spending a lot of time talking to him. It was all about "house of cards that is this administration" or "something is wrong with America, during the '70's people cared about abuse of power and did something about it during Watergate". He couldn't be made to see that a) no actual abuse of power has occurred, b) the country is demographically older and wiser NOW than it was in 1973, c) there are information streams to contravene the predominant left of center one, and d) people have rediscovered the disastrous consequences (at least for now) of being self-dishonest and ignoring a true threat so that they can live a life free from anxiety. Try as I might to get him to see that this situation wasn't Vietnam, he was inflexibly committed (invested, perhaps?) to seeing it that way.

I suspect this talk of abuse of power is all projection, and chatter about impeachment is an attempt to relive/recapture youth, and these folks are simply so ossified into one particular point of time that they cannot - ahem - move on.
Posted by no mo uro 2006-01-12 06:58||   2006-01-12 06:58|| Front Page Top

#7 You should thank them for their services. I mean, when the dust settles from American Civil War II, the making of lists is going to be so easy cause they're all out there identifying themselves.
Posted by Chons Omuck9409 2006-01-12 09:02||   2006-01-12 09:02|| Front Page Top

#8 But impeachment and removal from office will not happen


There! She said it.
Posted by Besoeker 2006-01-12 09:06||   2006-01-12 09:06|| Front Page Top

#9 Wow! Liz Holtzman!
Did somebody tip over a rock in the fever swamp so she could crawl out?
Posted by tu3031 2006-01-12 09:42||   2006-01-12 09:42|| Front Page Top

#10 I think they are blasting W hoping he'll resign to save the country from being so partisonly divided the way Nixon did.

Instead Bush learned a different lesson, that leaving to spare the country is a form of partisan blackmail.
Posted by rjschwarz">rjschwarz  2006-01-12 10:14|| rjschwarz.com]">[rjschwarz.com]  2006-01-12 10:14|| Front Page Top

#11 â€œA high crime or misdemeanor is an archaic term that means a serious abuse of power, whether or not it is also a crime, that endangers our constitutional system of government.” Gee I didn’t know that Ex-Congresspeople could rewrite constitutional law? This is their new mantra: “It may not have been illegal, but it wasn’t right.” They can read polls like any other and even the most extreme polls show that most people don’t feel a law was broken. That is probably because (DUH) there was no law broken. The only thing broken were the itty bitty feelings of the LLL that maybe just maybe there phone sex call to “Omar and his camel” might have been intercepted. They would rather see a hundred 9/11 than have someone listen to their private phone calls, I would rather they listen to a hundred of my phone calls than have another 9/11.
Posted by Cyber Sarge">Cyber Sarge  2006-01-12 10:42||   2006-01-12 10:42|| Front Page Top

#12 If one does a "google" search using the words
"Impeach Bush" one would find that their is almost a cottage industry dedicated to this action.

Interestingly enough Con. John Conyers (D) has introduced a resolution in the U.S. Congress to "censure" President Bush & V.P. Cheney. Check this out:

Stand with Congressman Conyers

Demand Censure for Bush-Cheney Misconduct
Investigate Impeachable Offenses

I am taking steps against the Bush Administration’s handling of the Iraq War and its collection of intelligence. I am going to need you to stand with me in fighting for accountability.

Join me to demand censure for Bush and Cheney in addition to the creation of a Special Committee to investigate impeaching the Bush Administration for its widespread abuses of power.

I have sought answers from the administration to questions arising from the Downing Street Minutes, the Valerie Plame leak, and scores of other abominable abuses of power that pervade the activities of this White House. 121 Members of Congress and many citizens like you have joined me in asking these questions of the President.

I have just completed a thorough review of this administration’s misconduct and have produced a 250-page report that provides evidence suggesting further steps to be taken. [A copy of the report may be found at Raw Story.com and also at CensureBush.org where additional action items may be found.]

It is time to take bolder measures in our pursuit of justice. This White House has responded to questions about its conduct with misleading statements, obfuscation, and vicious attacks against their critics. We must take the next step towards restoring accountability in our federal government. To this end I have:

• Introduced a resolution of censure for both President Bush and Vice-President Cheney, and;

• I am calling upon Congress to create a select committee similar to the Ervin Committee, which investigated President Nixon’s Watergate crimes. This select committee should investigate those offenses which appear to rise to the level of impeachment.

This administration must be held accountable for its misdeeds. We have considerable work to do and I am going to need your help to make this effort successful. Join me in sending a message to the President, the media, and the American people that we are not going to stand for an imperial presidency any longer.

Sincerely,

John Conyers

Now how seriously this is being taken is debatable,and with Republicans in control of
Congress, the chances of success are negligible.
Posted by BirdDog 2006-01-12 11:04||   2006-01-12 11:04|| Front Page Top

#13 Well that was a total waste of bandwidth.

Just post the link, dink, and if it seems worthy, we will take a look - on our own dime, not Fred's.
Posted by .com 2006-01-12 11:10||   2006-01-12 11:10|| Front Page Top

#14 
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Posted by BirdDog 2006-01-12 11:22||   2006-01-12 11:22|| Front Page Top

#15 You know Bird Dog I like Conyers. He is a good gauge for whether or not a program is good or effective. If Conyers (and the CBC) are against it, it must be a good program. On the flip side if he favors some piece of legislation then most people should run from it. So far I have found that this yardstick is 100% full proof. So if Conyers thinks that Bush should be impeached then you can bet that it won’t happen and most of congress is against it.
Posted by Cyber Sarge">Cyber Sarge  2006-01-12 11:22||   2006-01-12 11:22|| Front Page Top

#16 Heh, BDS. I don't post text for which I could provide a link - that's the pneumatic troll's specialty to make its posts seem important. Hit the tip jar, parasite.
Posted by .com 2006-01-12 11:26||   2006-01-12 11:26|| Front Page Top

#17 Troll out of control


Solution
Posted by Red Dog 2006-01-12 11:29||   2006-01-12 11:29|| Front Page Top

#18 Thanks, kid!
Hey, ya want a free turkey?
Posted by John Conyers 2006-01-12 11:46||   2006-01-12 11:46|| Front Page Top

#19 Cyber Sarge:

There are a lot of Congressmen you can say that about..

But you know, I did do a "google" search on "Impeach Bush" and I was really surprised that all these different organizations are "actually"
persuing this action.

I dont know if you would agree with this or not but I think the one thing that Bush and Clinton have in common is that they are both polarizing figures. It seems people either love them or hate them with no middle ground.
Posted by BirdDog 2006-01-12 12:03||   2006-01-12 12:03|| Front Page Top

#20 
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Posted by BirdDog 2006-01-12 12:07||   2006-01-12 12:07|| Front Page Top

#21 simpleton
Posted by .com 2006-01-12 12:10||   2006-01-12 12:10|| Front Page Top

#22 He's worse than a simpleton. Cripes, I've got houseplants that are smarter than this flathead, drooling mucoid.
Posted by Dave D.">Dave D.  2006-01-12 12:20||   2006-01-12 12:20|| Front Page Top

#23 Lol, DD. ;-)
Posted by .com 2006-01-12 12:22||   2006-01-12 12:22|| Front Page Top

#24 CW2. Soon.
Posted by Dave D.">Dave D.  2006-01-12 12:25||   2006-01-12 12:25|| Front Page Top

#25 BirdDog, you seem not to read some of the things you've been told about .com.

He and I have had our disagreements a few times, but I respect his exerience and point of view even when I don't agree with him.

It would become you well - and gain you a more respectful audience for your own views - if you acknowledged with simple respect that .com brings both experience in the middle east and a long history of participation here at Rantburg to his comments.

He doesn't need to start his own site. He's EARNED the right to be a major contributor and commenter here. He regularly brings useful links, first hand reports and a clear analysis to important stories about the GWOT.

You're welcome to do the same. The status is earned, though - you can't just demand or claim it.

(lotp, speaking for all the moderators)
Posted by lotp 2006-01-12 12:34||   2006-01-12 12:34|| Front Page Top

#26 Impeach Bush - the collective manifestation of BDS. Never mind there's no offense on which to base such action. It reminds me of some Dhimmicrat Congress Critter "There's no evidence that any crime has been committed, which is exactly why we need further investigation" The Dems are no longer part of the politcal discussion in this country. They've reteated to the corner of the room to play with their navels, drool endlessly while muttering something about the Evil Chimp Overlord having stolen their ball of string.
Posted by Rex Mundi 2006-01-12 12:41||   2006-01-12 12:41|| Front Page Top

#27 I am humbled, lotp. Thx.
Posted by .com 2006-01-12 12:42||   2006-01-12 12:42|| Front Page Top

#28 ltop:

Maybe you misuderstand what I was saying.
I actually was complimenting .com as being
a very opinionated poster. That's not to say
he cant start his own website and partipate
in this one also.

Even though though he and I
disgree on most political subjects, I think he
is just as passionate in his beliefs as I am.

My only objection him is when he starts acting like he is "running" this site.
Posted by BirdDog 2006-01-12 12:59||   2006-01-12 12:59|| Front Page Top

#29 BirdDog? Is that the tag today?
One suggestion for Cassini, Left Angle, GrandAm would be to get mature enough to keep one handle and take his beating like a man.
That wouldn't be too hard to do, would it? Even for a cement bag like you?

Posted by tu3031 2006-01-12 13:05||   2006-01-12 13:05|| Front Page Top

#30 tu:

If you claim to know who I am what difference does it make what handle I have. As far as your other point, you have a very overactive imagination.
Posted by BirdDog 2006-01-12 13:40||   2006-01-12 13:40|| Front Page Top

#31 Bird Dog no doubt there are many ?hundreds? of organization that are “perusing” the impeachment of Bush. But can I point out a little legal document called the Constitution that states that only Congress can remove a President from office. Also I sincerely doubt there is a huge groundswell of support of these organizations outside their echo chamber. Any rational person would be turned off by the vitriolic nature of 99% of those sites you get on a Google search for Impeachment and Bush, the other are just plain stupid.
Posted by Cyber Sarge">Cyber Sarge  2006-01-12 13:45||   2006-01-12 13:45|| Front Page Top

#32 How long between the next Presidential election and the first impeach whomever website appears? I'm betting people will buy 'em up during the primaries.
Posted by rjschwarz">rjschwarz  2006-01-12 13:50|| rjschwarz.com]">[rjschwarz.com]  2006-01-12 13:50|| Front Page Top

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Posted by BirdDog 2006-01-12 11:22||   2006-01-12 11:22|| Front Page Top

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Posted by BirdDog 2006-01-12 12:07||   2006-01-12 12:07|| Front Page Top

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