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2005-12-20 Fifth Column
Talking With Islamists: The European Left and its “Dialogue” with the Arab World
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Posted by ed 2005-12-20 06:29|| || Front Page|| [7 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 God! I think we can rename this "Inherit The Windbag"...
Posted by tu3031 2005-12-20 13:36||   2005-12-20 13:36|| Front Page Top

#2 If the problems of the Arab or Islamic world are attributed not to the repressive regimes that prevail in the region, to state control, the oppression of women, the lack of a free media and the glorification of violence – in short, to the form of government – but instead simply to a different cultural understanding, then all the basic human rights standards commonly defined as universal – and therefore as subjects not fit for dialogue – are reduced to political manifestations of “Western Christian culture” and thus rendered negotiable.

Geez..that's 1 sentance?
Posted by Hupomolet Omineth8864 2005-12-20 14:20||   2005-12-20 14:20|| Front Page Top

#3 Inherit The Windbag

LOL!
Posted by Buckminster Spemble1220 2005-12-20 15:25||   2005-12-20 15:25|| Front Page Top

#4 What do you expect. The authors are German academics. In the original German, each sentence is two or three compound words.
Posted by ed 2005-12-20 15:31||   2005-12-20 15:31|| Front Page Top

#5 The Arabs use long flowery phrases too...
Posted by Seafarious">Seafarious  2005-12-20 15:37||   2005-12-20 15:37|| Front Page Top

#6 Uh, not to insult anyone . . . but this is probably the VERY BEST ANALYSIS I'VE EVER COME ACROSS regarding the futility of using diplomacy alone in dealing with the global terrorism threat.

Copy the entire piece to your files and read it when you have the time. Well worth it in every respect.
Posted by ex-lib 2005-12-20 22:33||   2005-12-20 22:33|| Front Page Top

#7 EXAMPLE: "European Islamists, partly from conviction and partly from opportunism, have now nearly perfectly mastered the use of a vocabulary that dovetails seamlessly with “left-wing” ideas and programs . . ."

And, of course, they use it to their advantage. Again, copy and read the article. It's great.
Posted by ex-lib 2005-12-20 22:37||   2005-12-20 22:37|| Front Page Top

#8 Glad you found it informative ex-lib. I had a similar, if not quite as strong, reaction as you. I still have some hope for the Germans and hope this article gets a wide audience in Deutchland.
Posted by ed 2005-12-20 23:46||   2005-12-20 23:46|| Front Page Top

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