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2005-12-11 China-Japan-Koreas
China breaks silence on Protest shootings
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Posted by Pappy 2005-12-11 00:00|| || Front Page|| [2 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Yeah, funny that the Western newspapers didn't report that the crowd was throwing explosives. That's how they go fishing, in that part of the country. The Armed Police would have probably just busted some heads otherwise. The use of lethal force justifies responding with lethal force.
Posted by gromky">gromky  2005-12-11 05:34|| http://communistposters.com/]">[http://communistposters.com/]  2005-12-11 05:34|| Front Page Top

#2 can we really believe the Chicoms at all, ever?
Posted by bk 2005-12-11 11:04||   2005-12-11 11:04|| Front Page Top

#3 Interesting quote from yesterday's NYT article that I had not seen:


"From about 7 p.m. the police started firing tear gas into the crowd, but this failed to scare people," said a resident who gave his name only as Li and claimed to have been at the scene, where, he said, a relative had been killed. "Later, we heard more than 10 explosions, and thought they were just detonators, so nobody was scared.

"At about 8 p.m. they started using guns, shooting bullets into the ground, but not really targeting anybody. Finally, at about 10 p.m. they started killing people."

The use of live ammunition to put down a protest is almost unheard of in China, where the authorities have come to rely on the rapid deployment of huge security forces, tear gas, water cannons and other nonlethal measures. But Chinese authorities have become increasingly nervous in recent months over the proliferation of demonstrations across the countryside.

By the government's own tally, there were 74,000 riots or other significant public disturbances in 2004 alone, a big jump from previous years.


I know ZF thinks it's under control, but I'm not so sure about the trend. This must have been some riot to outlast tear gas. As one commenter at Belmont Club observed, that must be a pretty good bunch of agitators hooligans insurgents to keep that many people rioting that long in the face of that much deterrence.
Posted by Angeack Flirt1534 2005-12-11 11:38||   2005-12-11 11:38|| Front Page Top

#4 Roundup of the Shanwei Incident by local sources here, please read and educate yourselves.
Posted by gromky">gromky  2005-12-11 11:42|| http://communistposters.com/]">[http://communistposters.com/]  2005-12-11 11:42|| Front Page Top

#5 Thank you gromky. excellent link, excellent find.
Posted by Fluns Clinelet8148 2005-12-11 12:05||   2005-12-11 12:05|| Front Page Top

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