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2005-12-06 Home Front: Politix

Dems are the victims of their own "verbal momentum"

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Posted by Mike 2005-12-06 12:27|| || Front Page|| [3 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 To extend the lawyer analogy, the Dems have constructed an argument that takes into account everything except the testimony of the witnesses. They really don't seem to have caught on to the fact that anyone with a modem can read the milbloggers, i.e., guys on the scene who almost without exception support the mission (or can talk to returning troops.) The contrast between what the Dems are saying and what the troops are saying also reinforces the (accurate) perception that the Dems are generally anti-military. ("Hmm,I can either believe Howard Dean or a Marine sergeant who just got back from Iraq. Lemme think about that for a nanosecond.")

Posted by Matt 2005-12-06 13:15|| 2005-12-06 13:15|| Front Page Top

#2 I think the verbal momentun is part of it, but probably the icing on the cake. Rove understands that the only poll that counts is the one they take on election day and that none of the others matter, except as they effect that one. From Rove's perspective, public opinion in odd numbered years is irrelevant; He can't get the press he needs all the time, so he let's them (the donks and the press)have their fun when it doesn't count. But once we are within election time, they start to focus on the message so that on election day they get 51% of the vote.

The same thing is happening here. Note that Rove has improved the congressional standing of the trunks in 2000, 2002 and 2004. If he can do it again in 2006, he will be in Mark Hanna territory. The focus from now till November 7 will be on victory in Iraq. Americans love a winner and will not tolerate a loser, said somebody famous. The message all year long will be that the trunks will deliver victory in the War on Terror. This will build the majority in Congress and provide the momentum for action in 2007, just as the Iraqis should be in a position to pick up the slack. Pencilneck should be scared, very scared.

Posted by Thosh Thavitle8705 2005-12-06 13:53|| 2005-12-06 13:53|| Front Page Top

#3 Yes this theory make sense as far as political junkies are concerned. But look at the other side of the coin.

Years of alligations without any response have left the impression amung a lot of people that there is truth to those alligations. Certainly total bullshit statements are now generally taken as fact.

If you win the arguement amung the 10% paying attention and lose it amung the remaining have you really gained?

Posted by rjschwarz 2005-12-06 14:30|| 2005-12-06 14:30|| Front Page Top

#4 RJ, look at the election results. That's what counts. Not enough people are convinced by the BS to win one election out of the last 3. I suspect this is how Bush uses polling, to tell when too many people are starting to buy the BS and it's time to fight back.

Posted by Thosh Thavitle8705 2005-12-06 14:45|| 2005-12-06 14:45|| Front Page Top

#5 I have a cousin who described this effect, after an argument with his wife, as his "out of body experience". "I was over here", he said, "and my mouth was over there still talking!"

Any husband (or wife for that matter) can probably readily testify to the validity of 'Verbal Momentum'.....

Posted by CrazyFool 2005-12-06 15:17|| 2005-12-06 15:17|| Front Page Top

#6 "we all get to watch the democrats crowd together on that last little twig way out at the end of the limb."

Upside: We all get to watch.
Downside: We all get to watch.

Posted by DepotGuy 2005-12-06 16:10|| 2005-12-06 16:10|| Front Page Top

#7 and Karl Rove brought out the small saw today (Bush gently chiding) - big saw later (Cheney)

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2005-12-06 17:04|| 2005-12-06 17:04|| Front Page Top

#8 Thosh, you make a good point but it still concerns me because fully 50% of the country doesn't vote and at some point a good chunk of them might. These are the ones who don't pay attention until they think the world is ready to end and that is what the Democrats have been screaming for years now.

If the lies sinks in it could be bad. Truth doesn't matter, impressions do.

But as I said so far you are right. It seems enough people see through the BS that my concerns may be totally unwarranted. Could be my point only effects those who get stuck in watercooler arguements with uninformed idiots. But that's pretty bad as it is.

Posted by rjschwarz 2005-12-06 18:21|| 2005-12-06 18:21|| Front Page Top

#9 fully 50% of the country doesn't vote and at some point a good chunk of them might.

am making matters worse, 50% of the dead folks still don't vote and at some point - a good chunk of them might :-)

Air America can't float a radio station in a single US city and the congress voted 403-3. The press has the biggest megaphone to pronounce "how Americans think" but no matter how much they hype it, the Deaniac crowd is a tiny minority.

Posted by 2b 2005-12-06 18:29|| 2005-12-06 18:29|| Front Page Top

#10 Hear, hear Thosh!

Get a name BTW.

Posted by Shipman 2005-12-06 18:31|| 2005-12-06 18:31|| Front Page Top

#11 I loved the way Hugh Hewitt pased up Dean today. The man clearly was out there in left field and doesn't realize it or care. Kerry all but lost any direction when he paints the U.S. GIs as the bad guys. Yes Karl was right to let them keep swinging, eventually they would have to hit themselves because they were the only ones in the fight.

Posted by Cyber Sarge">Cyber Sarge 2005-12-06 20:51|| 2005-12-06 20:51|| Front Page Top

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