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2005-11-08 Europe

Scholar warns against putting Islamic spin on French riots

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Posted by Steve White 2005-11-08 00:00|| || Front Page|| [3 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Class a horse crap. Religion is part of the picture. Ignoring that is pointless. This fellow isn't worth listening to.

Posted by Sock Puppet OÂ´ Doom 2005-11-08 00:52|| 2005-11-08 00:52|| Front Page Top

#2 âThere must be a struggle against this institutionalised racism. There are second-class citizens in France. That is the reality.â

Per usual for the egghead crowd there's a kernel of truth at the bottom of the big steaming pile of dung.

Posted by AzCat 2005-11-08 04:37|| 2005-11-08 04:37|| Front Page Top

#3 He's right. They shouldn't be second-class citizens in France. They should be second-class (or worse) citizens in ALGERIA!!! Ship these rioting Muzzy bastards back, all of them, and the sooner the better. And send their families with them. When the last mosque in France is dynamited and the rubble cleared away for something useful to be built, France can begin to breath easily again. Not until.

Posted by mac 2005-11-08 06:35|| 2005-11-08 06:35|| Front Page Top

#4 Spot on Mac...

Posted by nockeyes nilsworth 2005-11-08 07:11|| 2005-11-08 07:11|| Front Page Top

#5 I am glad they denied him a VISA. Hearing Ramadan potificate this type of hooey 24-7 on CNN and MSMBC would dramatically increase the chances of me shorting out my television by projectile vomitting across the family room. How nightmarish is the idea of a panel including Ramadan, Ward Churchill and Al Sharpton?

Posted by Super Hose 2005-11-08 08:00|| 2005-11-08 08:00|| Front Page Top

#6 Actually, SH, it sounds to me like a great target of opportunity for an air strike...

Posted by mac 2005-11-08 08:23|| 2005-11-08 08:23|| Front Page Top

#7 Oh come on now. The poor upset rioting buggers are trying to integrate in as much as large scale civil strife, riots and strikes are a somewhat common thing for alot of Frenchmen. They are just trying to fit in.

Posted by MunkarKat 2005-11-08 08:31|| 2005-11-08 08:31|| Front Page Top

#8 The economic divide might narrow some if the car-torching Muslim youth focused on getting western education and mastering the local language and etiquette. Colin Powell, Condi Rice, and Clarence Thomas didn't get to where they are in life by joining the Black Panthers or the Nation of Islam.

Next year these Muslim youth will be angered that the local shopkeepers have moved away. Cause and effect are not in the basics of Muslim education.

Posted by Darrell 2005-11-08 09:18|| 2005-11-08 09:18|| Front Page Top

#9 I sincerely hope that in the not too distant future the French teach them something about cause and effect, to wit: cause: rioting; effect, 7.62 bullet to center of mass, followed by 7.62 bullet to head from close range, delivered by French paratrooper. Repeat example as needed.

Posted by mac 2005-11-08 09:31|| 2005-11-08 09:31|| Front Page Top

#10 named by Time magazine as one of the leading thinkers of the 21st century but barred from the United States.

Absolutely shocking!

Posted by Besoeker 2005-11-08 09:33|| 2005-11-08 09:33|| Front Page Top

#11 "The fracture is profound... We are seeing an Americanisation in terms of violence."

You just knew they would get around to this sooner or later.

Posted by DepotGuy 2005-11-08 12:41|| 2005-11-08 12:41|| Front Page Top

#12 "We are seeing an Americanisation in terms of violence."

He'd better hope they don't see Frenchification in terms of violence.

Guess this so-called "scholar" doesn't know anything about the French Revolution (or labor unions, for that matter). Violence extraordinaire - and l'guillotine, too. Bet there are more than a few Frenchies around who know how to use both.

Posted by Barbara Skolaut">Barbara Skolaut 2005-11-08 14:03|| http://ariellestjohndesigns.com]">[http://ariellestjohndesigns.com] 2005-11-08 14:03|| Front Page Top

#13 Unfortunately, he is in many ways correct. The underlying problem in France is it's economic model. A statist socialistic economy cannot produce the jobs necessary to employ its people, regardless of race or religion. Chirac can make all the pleasant noises he wants, but France cannot deliver real jobs.

For Time magazine to name Mr. Ramadan a leading thinker he must also be leftist. He therefore would not bring up this unpleasant economic fact in his analysis.

Posted by DoDo 2005-11-08 15:00|| 2005-11-08 15:00|| Front Page Top

#14 "We are seeing an Americanisation in terms of violence.â Oh right. Blame America. But what did we expect from a Moslem "scholar?"

DoDo's right--not enough jobs for the Frenchies. No one is allowed to work more than 30 or 35 hours per week according to their laws (think that's right). Anyway, their failing economy can't accomodate a bunch of spoiled brat young men who feel sorry for themselves, even if there were jobs.

All this can be traced to a failure in parenting--especially in connection with the fathers. Same problems exist in black America, with largely the same results, except that our law enforcement is better.

Posted by ex-lib 2005-11-08 16:47|| 2005-11-08 16:47|| Front Page Top

#15 "How nightmarish is the idea of a panel including Ramadan, Ward Churchill and Al Sharpton?"

Super Hose - better hope that freak show comes with gibberish-translating subtitles!

Posted by Hyper">Hyper 2005-11-08 16:47|| 2005-11-08 16:47|| Front Page Top

#16 The underlying problem in France is it's economic model.

While that certainly doesn't help the situation I'd argue that the last 14 centuries have shown us that the main underlying problem is Islam's utter inability to peacefully coexist with other cultures.

Posted by AzCat 2005-11-08 22:30|| 2005-11-08 22:30|| Front Page Top

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