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2005-09-20 Afghanistan/South Asia
Indian Ocean Gets Modern Boats
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Posted by Steve 2005-09-20 09:13|| || Front Page|| [2 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 The very thought of a Submarine Built by Pakistanis sends a chill shiver up my spine.
It can (of course) submerge, but will it come back up?
Posted by Redneck Jim 2005-09-20 13:06||   2005-09-20 13:06|| Front Page Top

#2 "The price of the contract is quoted as $300 million for each boat."

Not a bad price, actually. I wonder how long it will be before the two of them have a real war?
Posted by Secret Master 2005-09-20 14:35||   2005-09-20 14:35|| Front Page Top

#3 The Indians want the German AIP system, not the French one. They will probably install it on the later boats built.

They will also sign a deal to build the Russian Amur class of Diesel-Electric submarines in India. These will be armed with Klub cruise missiles.

A large number of Indian Naval officers are training in Russia now. The Russians even built new buildings to accomodate them at its nuclear sub training facility. The number of officers is said to be equal to 4 complete crews for Akula-2 SSNs.

While the sailors may be training for India's own nuclear sub (the ATV being built inside Vizag naval base), the Russians are rumored to be completing two Akula SSNs for lease to India.

There have been reports that the Scorpene technology will be useful to the ATV project with a claim that the modular nature of the Scorpene would allow a section containing a small nuclear reactor to be added. The ATV reactor could thus perhaps find its way to future Scorpenes, giving India a number of additional, small SSNs.

Modifications to allow firing of the Klub CM, the Brahmos supersonic cruise missile and the future Sagarika long range nuclear cruise missile may be made.



Posted by john 2005-09-20 18:06||   2005-09-20 18:06|| Front Page Top

#4 Just before the Indian cabinet cleared the Scorpene deal, the German submaker HDW put in a bid to revive their 209 production line in India. They would modify the design (with their Russian partners) to accomodate launch of Russian missles like the Klub.

The Russian Amur deal is probably guaranteed so HDW (which has dealings ie allegations of bribery with the ruling congress party) may be accomodated by participation in the Scorpene and Amur production lines.

Posted by john 2005-09-20 21:29||   2005-09-20 21:29|| Front Page Top

#5 The Russians are also reportedly offerring to train Indian sub crews on AKULA-type simulators, although the jury is still out on whether India will get any AKULAS, etal. since to combat advanced enemy submarines one must be able to know how they work andor will be used. Russia also earlier had offered a similar deal to CHINA where China would have AKULA/TYPHOON training facilities built by Russia for the PLAN.
Posted by JosephMendiola 2005-09-20 21:54||   2005-09-20 21:54|| Front Page Top

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