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2005-08-21 Africa: Subsaharan
South Africa — beyond a joke
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Posted by Fred 2005-08-21 00:00|| || Front Page|| [1 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Wait until Mandela dies...

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=37010
Posted by Matt K. 2005-08-21 00:26||   2005-08-21 00:26|| Front Page Top

#2 IMO

The "good intentioned" social engineering, carried out under great pressure [from the outside]to transform South Africa away from apartied, may actually result in a failed state.

This area is ripe for more terrorists, thugs, and pug uglys.

If South Africa starts to fail, we should be prepared to save lives and lift the nukes, essential equiptment, and feedstocks.

For all South Africans I hope things turn around soon.
Posted by Red Dog 2005-08-21 01:52||   2005-08-21 01:52|| Front Page Top

#3 apartheid
Posted by Red Dog 2005-08-21 01:53||   2005-08-21 01:53|| Front Page Top

#4 Another country in the Dark Continent reverting to the bush after the departure of European and Asian settlers? The sad reality of Africa is that the true exploiters of Africans are millennia of African leaders that have produced nothing but misery for their people. It looks like a new generation of black exploiters stand ready to exploit the heck out of their people with promises of economic nirvana that will never materialize, and will certainly make the lives of non-elite blacks much more miserable than they are today. However, skin color solidarity will ensure that these schemes go through with solid approval from blacks, even as they pave the way for economic suicide.
Posted by Zhang Fei 2005-08-21 02:14|| http://timurileng.blogspot.com]">[http://timurileng.blogspot.com]  2005-08-21 02:14|| Front Page Top

#5 Land reform was long overdue, and if Mugabe had set about it seriously 20 years before, when he first took power, it could have been done gradually, legally, and without any grave damage to Zimbabwe's economy. But it was bound to be a delicate operation.....

Ah, yes. If only they had nuanced the redistribution of wealth, they could have been a contender. Take heed believers - though socialism/communism seems to be a completely discredited and totally failed ideal, it's not the ideal - it's just the process. (note to investors, FIRE! RUN!)
Posted by 2b 2005-08-21 02:36||   2005-08-21 02:36|| Front Page Top

#6 Have at it, I'll get my popcorn.
Posted by Sock Puppet 0’ Doom 2005-08-21 03:31||   2005-08-21 03:31|| Front Page Top

#7 A good series of state murders so give the rest of the people a chance
Posted by AG 2005-08-21 05:01||   2005-08-21 05:01|| Front Page Top

#8 South Africa, the next economic basket case.
Posted by Cyber Sarge">Cyber Sarge  2005-08-21 07:12||   2005-08-21 07:12|| Front Page Top

#9 We are still looking for a working substitute for colonial exploiters.
Posted by gromgoru 2005-08-21 07:14||   2005-08-21 07:14|| Front Page Top

#10 Question: is there ANYPLACE in Africa that would be worth investing fifty cents in? I was just in SA in December and I can vouch for the fact that everyone I talked to said crime was through the roof and all the whites I encountered said they were going to emigrate as soon as they could. The biggest obstacle to leaving, for them, was the government's restrictions on taking wealth out of the country. Sad as it sounds, I think Kim DuToit is dead on with his assessment of Africa: let it sink. When, fifty years from now, people can rationally look back at Africa, they'll see that the best years most of Africa ever had were from 1900 to 1960--the major era of European colonialism.
Posted by mac 2005-08-21 08:38||   2005-08-21 08:38|| Front Page Top

#11 Botswana is pretty much a success story, Mac.
Posted by Eric Jablow">Eric Jablow  2005-08-21 10:07||   2005-08-21 10:07|| Front Page Top

#12 When I was a kid Rhodesia and South Africa were prosperous, powerfull economies. Now they are buckets of shit. And everyone knows why.
Posted by bigjim-ky 2005-08-21 11:11||   2005-08-21 11:11|| Front Page Top

#13 AIDS. Malaria. Tribal warfare. Despot-induced famine. Drought. Desertification. Unsterilized innoculation needles re-used. UN Blue Helmets and African Union troops trading bread for sex. Slave raids.

And I'm positive I've forgotten some things.
Posted by trailing wife 2005-08-21 11:50||   2005-08-21 11:50|| Front Page Top

#14 Tanzanite and Conflict Diamonds. DeBeers is based in South Africa I do believe. Yellow Cake. Bush Meat, including dead Pygmies. Witch doctors and occasional cannibalism.
Posted by trailing wife 2005-08-21 13:51||   2005-08-21 13:51|| Front Page Top

#15 raping virgins as young as infants to be cured of AIDS
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2005-08-21 14:43||   2005-08-21 14:43|| Front Page Top

#16 Eric Jablow - Botswana a success story? You must be joking.

An average life span in the above country actually is just over ... thirty years. Not bad, isn't it?

http:/www.guardian.co.uk/aids/story/0,7369,751317,00.html

The only story in the whole Africa (muslim north included) are, in my modest opinion some insular nations like Mauritius, Sechelles and above all ... Cape Verde Islands, a candidate to ... European Union(!).

http:/www.afrol.com/articles/16293

Regards...
Posted by Matt K. 2005-08-21 15:31||   2005-08-21 15:31|| Front Page Top

#17 Botswana was a success story 25 years ago, but not anymore.
Posted by Darrell 2005-08-21 15:42||   2005-08-21 15:42|| Front Page Top

#18 The interesting thing about migration trends from South Africa is that there is no real difference between races or between english and afrikaans speakers. A large proportion of people of all races with the skills to be accepted as an immigrant in other countries want to leave because of crime and social deteriation. Also of note is that SA has a similar problem as the Europeans with large numbers of low skilled immigrants increasing crime and social problems. It just happens that whites are disproportionately skilled and unskilled immigrants are disproportionately black. SA government demographics.
Posted by phil_b 2005-08-21 16:02||   2005-08-21 16:02|| Front Page Top

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