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2005-07-31 Britain
Steyn: Wake up, folks — it’s war!
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Posted by tipper 2005-07-31 06:24|| || Front Page|| [8 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Another article that misses the mark by a mile. His statement that the welfare system is one of the root causes of terorism is absurd! Islam and their belief of intolerance is the root cause. Tony Blair and the Britts have just identified a seam that the terrorists are exploiting, Canada take note. Again I disagree with his analysis that we should deal with them like Isreal, by blowing up the flats. In Isreal they are all fighting over the same land, and in Brittin they are just trying to kill people. Do the analysis, get the leadership thats preaching hate and recruiting from the getto's, break the chain and then chase the money flow back to the funding. Then let the violence begin, on their land, not Brittins.
Posted by 49 pan">49 pan  2005-07-31 08:47||   2005-07-31 08:47|| Front Page Top

#2 His statement that the welfare system is one of the root causes of terorism is absurd!

That is not what he said. His point was this is war. You cannot treat terrorism strictly as a civil law enformment issue and it is stupid to subsidize your enemies with state welfare.
Posted by SteveS 2005-07-31 09:34||   2005-07-31 09:34|| Front Page Top

#3 49 pan: His statement that the welfare system is one of the root causes of terorism is absurd!

Not absurd at all. Stateside, welfare reform kicked off in the early 90's. The booting of millions of people off the welfare rolls coincided with a staggering decline in crime rates. Islam has always been a violent ideology. The welfare state provided its adherents with a steady income while they plotted against their host or home countries. The old saying - idle hands are the devil's tools - has a glimmer of truth in it.
Posted by Zhang Fei">Zhang Fei  2005-07-31 09:40|| http://timurileng.blogspot.com]">[http://timurileng.blogspot.com]  2005-07-31 09:40|| Front Page Top

#4 Not only that. It's a sign of weakness, and weakness - probably more than anything else - encourages terrorism. Steyn, as usual, is dead on about this. It's time to quit treating terrorism as criminal behavior and instead realize it for what it truly is: war. This is how we got into this mess to begin with. The jihadis kept saying, "Allah Allah Mohammed global caliphate jihad." And we kept saying, "No, they're just kidding..."
Posted by Jeff 2005-07-31 10:22||   2005-07-31 10:22|| Front Page Top

#5 Islamists treat welfare as jizya. When the jizya isn't "enough", then they view that as the violation of dhimmitude, and for an example of what happens when dhimmitude is violated, look to the Armenians in the early 20th century.
Posted by Robert Crawford">Robert Crawford  2005-07-31 12:22|| http://www.kloognome.com/]">[http://www.kloognome.com/]  2005-07-31 12:22|| Front Page Top

#6 Steyn is also spot on two major Western problems:

1) Anti-semitism among intellectuals who refuse to consider that the reason Israel has been under attack is the same reason Europe is under attack: Moslems want to impose submission or death to all non-Moslems.

2) Foreign parasites have come to the West in order to spread their indolent ways and murderous ideology.

Both would have to change if we were to openly admit that we are at war. Which is why I highly recommend reading Patrick Henry's "Illusions of Hope" speech. Gentlemen may cry "Peace!, Religion of Peace!" but we are at war.
Posted by Kalle (kafir forever) 2005-07-31 15:29||   2005-07-31 15:29|| Front Page Top

#7 STEVE, You are correct. This war can not be run by the law enforcement agencies. The last thing I need, I'm a soldier, is to worry about the FBI treating a battle like a crime scene. My point was the gettos are simple recruiting grounds. The hijackers in the US lived a middle class life. If you closed the gettos they would hide in middle class areas. We must go after the leadership, and their funds, and seperate them from being able to influence and recruit.
Posted by 49 pan 2005-07-31 22:56||   2005-07-31 22:56|| Front Page Top

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