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2005-07-08 China-Japan-Koreas

WaTimes: Two Part Special Report on China's Military

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Posted by .com 2005-07-08 04:36|| || Front Page|| [4 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Wake up call, please.

This has been out there for a while. Gertz knows this stuff cold.

Com, good job of editing on this. Thanks.

Posted by Captain America 2005-07-08 08:56|| 2005-07-08 08:56|| Front Page Top

#2 U.S. forces could find themselves battling a U.S.-equipped enemy

No, we could find ourselves fighting a US technology stolen and retrofited enemy. Get it right dumbass. Oh, and thank you Mr. Clinton for letting China steal our shit and not doing a thing about it, except sending more shit for them to steal.

Posted by mmurray821 2005-07-08 09:19|| 2005-07-08 09:19|| Front Page Top

#3 He said the Chinese are prolific collectors of secrets and military-related information.

And the Soviets weren't?

My bet is that they collapse internally before they can do much harm beyond Taiwan. Taiwan will be their Falklands, the last gasp of a failing government trying to redirect attention during the usual and painful downturn in any economy.

Posted by Chavish Grilet6152 2005-07-08 10:18|| 2005-07-08 10:18|| Front Page Top

#4 The Soviets stole what they could, but the Chinese are in a league all by themselves. In addition, the "West" never wholesale sold technology, plants, and materiel to the Soviets in exchage for consumer goods. If we did, much of the world would be communist and the Soviets, instead of dissolving, would be at the top.

In addition to stolen weapons designs (e.g. W88 warheads), their have been very shortsighted sales (esp in the 1990's) such as machinery to build one piece fighter aircraft wings, tech help to improve the reliability of their ~~ICBMs~~ space launchers, etc. Marx may have been right with his observation that "The Capitalists will sell us the rope with which we will hang them". He just was wrong as to the buyer.

Posted by ed 2005-07-08 10:45|| 2005-07-08 10:45|| Front Page Top

#5 Well said, Ed, but I agree with CG6152. We may be seeing the beginning of the end. There have been at least 2 reports of "accidents" with new technology in the Chinese Navy lately. I don't think it'll be anytime soon (their collapse), but maybe another "arms race" is just what we need to make 'em collapse (a'la Reagan and the Soviets)? They are in a much better position than the Soviets in that we GAVE them a lot of this technology (thanks, Bill).

Posted by BA">BA 2005-07-08 11:20|| 2005-07-08 11:20|| Front Page Top

#6 Sigh. Just think, BA, how much cheaper (and safer for the US) it would've been if we'd merely kept ol' Bill supplied with hookers dressed as Interns. Sure, during Camelot II, it would've prevented the China Sellout, but that would've never happened or been necessary if we'd figured it out back when he was chasing skirts in ArkoAmerica. Coulda kept the clown smiling right up to the heart attack that finishes him off, cheap! And no Hillary. What a deal. Lost Opportunities.

Posted by .com 2005-07-08 11:51|| 2005-07-08 11:51|| Front Page Top

#7 Man, .com, imagine the possibilities! Plus, "unemployment" would've been low in all the trailer parks he was cruisin'. You're right, lost opportunities!

Posted by BA">BA 2005-07-08 13:02|| 2005-07-08 13:02|| Front Page Top

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