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Posted by Steve White 2005-05-08 12:51:10 AM|| || Front Page|| [10 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 sumthin teribly rong ifn we not haver nuff fuel in iraq.

reely tho im just not knowin what to post.

reely...
Posted by muck4doo 2005-05-08 02:11|| http://meatismurder.blogspot.com/]">[http://meatismurder.blogspot.com/]  2005-05-08 02:11|| Front Page Top

#2 Horses, lot's and lots of horses. That's the ticket or shank's mare and live off the ground.
Sure.
Posted by Shipman 2005-05-08 06:26||   2005-05-08 06:26|| Front Page Top

#3 I'm not sure what to think about this article. A very close friend, Sgt. Hank Harvey, has been in Iraq for the last year on convoy duty. I e-mail him regularly. What he tells me is for the first 6 months he was there his convoy, including fuel trucks, had to run a gauntlet of fire from the moment they left until they reached their destination. Literally driving 80 miles an hour without lights at night. He told me there was a big drop-off in convoy attacks during the 7th month and for the last 5 months the convoys are almost never attacked. He said some of the initial "attacks" were no more than a single individual stepping out to fire a few rounds from an AK and some of them were more organized. He attributes the drop in convoy attacks to increased air protection and increased depletion of insurgents. It's easier for them to attack civilian targets. It's still no pic nic over there but not nearly as bad as the media make it out to be. He said that really pisses him off because it causes undue worry by his family here. Just my $.02 worth.
Posted by Deacon Blues">Deacon Blues  2005-05-08 08:19||   2005-05-08 08:19|| Front Page Top

#4 ...a jet-fuel-like substance called JP-8...

Huh? JP-8 is jet fuel.

If the author made this simple mistake (and his editor didn't catch it) in the second paragraph how many other errors are there in this article?
Posted by Parabellum 2005-05-08 08:35||   2005-05-08 08:35|| Front Page Top

#5 The atlantic monthly is again looking for a reason to be criticaln no suprise here. The title should say "oh My God Those wastefull soldiers and how they trade fuel for safety!" Fuel consumption is a logistical issue that the combat development folks should be aware of but not overly concerned with. Winning our wars and the safety of your soldiers should be the only two real concerns. The Pentagon staff bases decisions on compromise, the last thing I want is energy conservation having any vote when it comes to lethality and survivability of a system. Tell that astronaut to go bact to what he does best, be a spaceman and let the pentagon get back to winning our wars.
Posted by 49pan 2005-05-08 09:42||   2005-05-08 09:42|| Front Page Top

#6 Yep, the only thing missing from this article is our contribution to global warming. Wankers.
Posted by Raj 2005-05-08 11:00||   2005-05-08 11:00|| Front Page Top

#7 
Horses, lot's and lots of horses. That's the ticket or shank's mare and live off the ground. Sure.
"If wishes were horses, we'd all be eating steak." - Jayne Cobb.
Posted by Phil Fraering 2005-05-08 12:29|| http://newsfromthefridge.typepad.com]">[http://newsfromthefridge.typepad.com]  2005-05-08 12:29|| Front Page Top

#8 Reminds me of the discussions about fire control. Iraqi and some coalition forces are discovering that logistics efficiency translates directly into both survivability and lethality. Re fuel: one milblogger noted that it was a serious problem having to stop so frequently to refuel up-armoured Humvees. There's almost no upside to waste, in any case, and big bonuses in flexibility and striking power from being efficient.
Posted by Brian H">Brian H  2005-05-08 12:49||   2005-05-08 12:49|| Front Page Top

#9 I'd have to agree that fuel efficiency is for sissies. In battle, you need big-time power and big-time acceleration, for those moments when you need to get out of craters or power out of an area in a hurry. That means lousy fuel efficiency. That means having gas-guzzling tractor-style engines. Can't really be helped.
Posted by Zhang Fei">Zhang Fei  2005-05-08 22:18|| http://timurileng.blogspot.com]">[http://timurileng.blogspot.com]  2005-05-08 22:18|| Front Page Top

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