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2005-03-07 -Short Attention Span Theater-

Earthquakes and Volcanos under North Pole

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Posted by phil_b 2005-03-07 2:22:35 AM|| || Front Page|| [6 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 A volcano melting the artic ice will get the global warming crowd excited, even though volcanic eruptions cause climate cooling.

That's because the idiots have no sense of time beyond the personal, and no understanding of the difference between science and black magic. I take that back: they believe that black magic works... they think science is a matter of individual opinion.

Posted by trailing wife 2005-03-07 4:34:17 AM|| 2005-03-07 4:34:17 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 TW, black magic works, but not the way they presume it does (or for that matter most of the people), what people associate with black magic is just a jumbled recollection of something different. Or, rather "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."

they think science is a matter of individual opinion.

Well, looking at the academic culture for the last couple of hundred years, one may, indeed, think that is the case. :-)

However, it shouldn't.

Posted by Sobiesky 2005-03-07 4:52:28 AM|| 2005-03-07 4:52:28 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 Sobiesky, can you elaborate? I read your post several times and still don't get it. The subject interests me.

Posted by phil_b 2005-03-07 5:15:16 AM|| 2005-03-07 5:15:16 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 Phil, which part?

Posted by Sobiesky 2005-03-07 5:16:37 AM|| 2005-03-07 5:16:37 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 How about black magic works and science being a matter of individual opinion.

Posted by phil_b 2005-03-07 6:04:37 AM|| 2005-03-07 6:04:37 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 Let me skip the black magic (or magic in general) part for now. I don't think I can summarize it in few coherent sentences due to the fact that it is a long past my bedtime and it would require quite a deep dip into history and other topics.

The part about "science being a matter of individual opinion" is a jab at the academe. I would call it a culture of scientism, as opposed to science. A religion of sorts, where the main tenured priests make decision about what is scientific and what is not. After they are replaced by another tenured priest, the scientific "truth" may change accordingly, after the tastes of the new priest. Yes, it is rather consensual church, a Nicean council of priests of scientism without a pontifex maximus, so somewhat less autocratorian. But plethora of lower-rank priests (journal editors) that uphold the current prevalent paradigm. Of course, it is an enterprise of sorts and depends on money (funding). The council decides who is the adherent and gets funding and who is a heretic and doesn't. Often the council does not have to trumpet their judgement, the lower-rank priests simply know which side is the bread buttered on.

Posted by Sobiesky 2005-03-07 6:38:11 AM|| 2005-03-07 6:38:11 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 Let e take a stab at the Black Magic thing.Think about primative people who for the first time see an airplane flying overhead,see/hear thier first firearm fired or thier photo taken for the first time.airplanes must be from the gods,fire arms are thunder and lightning,and cameras steal your soul.

Posted by Raptor 2005-03-07 7:07:17 AM|| 2005-03-07 7:07:17 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic," wrote author ~~and rumored pederast~~ Arthur C. Clarke.

You have to remember Alchemy morphed into science.
Alchemy = Magic.

Posted by Sock Puppet of Doom 2005-03-07 7:34:26 AM|| [http://www.slhess.com] 2005-03-07 7:34:26 AM|| Front Page Top

#9 Not necessarily Phil. Apparently, the Gakkel ridge is unusual for a mid-ocean ridge: large parts are unaccompanied by volcanism. Also, the volcanism associated with mid-ocean ridges is submarine and not explosive - not likely to melt the arctic ice cap. The explosive volcanoes of the "ring of fire" around the Pacific are due to subduction-related volcanism.

Posted by Spot 2005-03-07 8:22:02 AM|| 2005-03-07 8:22:02 AM|| Front Page Top

#10 I thought the alien space Nazis lived under the North Pole in their secret base at the center of the planet. I read this on the Internet. It must be true!

Posted by Chuck Simmins 2005-03-07 9:30:54 AM|| [http://blog.simmins.org] 2005-03-07 9:30:54 AM|| Front Page Top

#11 Just clearing a "little" ice to make oil shipping from ANWR easier. Nothing to see here, go about your business

Posted by Halliburton Arctic Transit Development Division 2005-03-07 9:56:16 AM|| 2005-03-07 9:56:16 AM|| Front Page Top

#12 How'd we do by the way? You need more? Less? Drop us a line on the company email.
Yours in world domination.
ETD

Posted by Halliburton: Earthquake/ Tsunami Division 2005-03-07 10:24:03 AM|| 2005-03-07 10:24:03 AM|| Front Page Top

#13 N Pole Earthquakes - USGS

Posted by BigEd 2005-03-07 11:34:27 AM|| 2005-03-07 11:34:27 AM|| Front Page Top

#14 Chuck --

I thought the Nazis lived under the South Pole?

Posted by nada 2005-03-07 12:33:27 PM|| 2005-03-07 12:33:27 PM|| Front Page Top

#15 Bend over and kiss your ass goodbye.

Posted by Chris W. 2005-03-07 12:36:46 PM|| 2005-03-07 12:36:46 PM|| Front Page Top

#16 Good link Spot, but it says the Gekkel Ridge has an unexpectedly high level of volcanism. Mid-ocean ridges are formed by volcanic processes. So the existence of a ridge means large scale volcanism in the past.

I know that mid-ocean volcanos do not erupt explosively and they tend to erupt for a long time at a moreorless steady rate. I was just having a bit of fun with the ice melting speculation.

Otherwise a second Kamchatka volcano continues a major eruption.

Posted by phil_b 2005-03-07 3:59:51 PM|| 2005-03-07 3:59:51 PM|| Front Page Top

#17 Don't you people get it? That's the site of all those USNAVY submarine reactor cores that have been dumped. Why do you think all those subs still go up to the North Pole? We don't have have to worry about no stinking Russkie subs, they're all tied up in port. Yeah, makes ya think don't it?

They're polluting the world man! Those bears and penguins ain't got nobody but us to worry for them. {/smirk off}

Posted by AlmostAnonymous6392 2005-03-07 5:35:03 PM|| 2005-03-07 5:35:03 PM|| Front Page Top

#18 hmmmm - penguins at the north pole now? - I blame W

Posted by Frank G 2005-03-07 5:42:41 PM|| 2005-03-07 5:42:41 PM|| Front Page Top

#19 #18 Frank: "I blame W."

It does save time, doesn't it? ;-p

Posted by Barbara Skolaut 2005-03-07 7:56:53 PM|| 2005-03-07 7:56:53 PM|| Front Page Top

#20 it was gonna get there someway, I just saved the university grants, protests, faked data, etc...

Posted by Frank G 2005-03-07 8:11:18 PM|| 2005-03-07 8:11:18 PM|| Front Page Top

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