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2005-02-06

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Posted by Steve White 2005-02-06 00:00:00|| || Front Page|| [8 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 I hear and obey.

Posted by Shipman 2005-02-06 6:16:36 AM|| 2005-02-06 6:16:36 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 In agreement. Will think of an "Ignore" button with a troll image for these occassions... ;-)

Posted by Sobiesky 2005-02-06 8:18:39 AM|| 2005-02-06 8:18:39 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 This post will get lost. I suggest it be the "headline" post for the day.

Posted by Mrs. Davis 2005-02-06 8:59:13 AM|| 2005-02-06 8:59:13 AM|| Front Page Top

#4
Frank G has been posting the "It's all about meeeeeeee" comments in response to Aris for a long time. Why haven't you said anything about that specifically? I suggest you address your comments to Frank directly to him, by name.

Also, what's your opinion of the expression "attention whore" being used repeatedly by .com, Tom, and Frank G?
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Posted by Mike Sylwester 2005-02-06 9:18:13 AM|| 2005-02-06 9:18:13 AM|| Front Page Top

#5
After Frank G posted his "It's all about meeeeeee" comment for about the 100th time, why didn't you start sending them to the sink trap? Why don't you send them to the sink trap now?
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Posted by Mike Sylwester 2005-02-06 9:25:38 AM|| 2005-02-06 9:25:38 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 But repeated attacks, spoofing signatures, trolls, etc., shouldn't be done here.

That seems to be a reversal of a previous decision of yours that such things were allowed in Rantburg, same as stalking. Still: a reversal I applaud. Glad you *finally* saw reason, and what Rantburg had become.

Posted by Aris Katsaris 2005-02-06 9:29:20 AM|| [http://www.livejournal.com/~katsaris/] 2005-02-06 9:29:20 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 hahaha.... the previous two posts sure are relevant. Too hot for you guys?

Posted by Mark E. 2005-02-06 10:00:21 AM|| 2005-02-06 10:00:21 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 Ummm ... Aris and Mike S., from my perspective your own behavior is a good part of the problem.

It takes two (or more) to kindle a flamewar. There's a fine line between advancing the conversation by taking a minority view and regularly insisting on the last word.

Posted by too true 2005-02-06 10:02:01 AM|| 2005-02-06 10:02:01 AM|| Front Page Top

#9 Ah quit your bellyaching Mike and Aris (and others...). Fred and Steve and the other moderaters spend a lot of time and money to provide this forum for us. This isn't 'usenet' and isn't free so take your flamewars somewhere else (I hear DU likes them).

If you dont like something then say so - once. By beating an argument into the ground (and then digging) and whining 'well HE siad this and you siad that and now my whittle feelings are hurt! Mommy!' you are acting like children. Having threads go into the 80's while a couple of people have a personal arguments doesn't do anyone any good. Take it to email or have a knifefight in the lobby at high noon or something.

Steve, (and Fred and all), How about the moderators having the ability to diable posting on individual articles for a certain period of time (an hour or three) so people can 'cool down'.

BTW Thanks Frank (and Steve and the other moderators) for providing (and working on moderating) this forum.

Posted by CrazyFool 2005-02-06 10:06:20 AM|| 2005-02-06 10:06:20 AM|| Front Page Top

#10 Funny that Mike's and Aris' responses have been to basically imply that everyone else trolls, but they don't.

Mike, if I were running this site, your comments yesterday on the Diplomad blog retirement post would have resulted in your suspension from here. And no, I don't think anything Frank G, or .com, or Tom said excuses what you wrote there. It was the first message of the thread, and I do not think Diplomad had any responsibility for Frank, .com, or Tom, or anything they have written that might have offended you.

Posted by Phil Fraering 2005-02-06 10:13:55 AM|| [http://newsfromthefridge.typepad.com] 2005-02-06 10:13:55 AM|| Front Page Top

#11 I find it interesting that Mikey is certain that Frank G has been posting the "It's all about meeeeeeee" comments. I know that Fred can check IP addresses, but I didn't know that Mikey can.

And what is with Aris and his "stalking" obsession: am I stalking him now because I am posting on the same thread, less than an hour after he does?

And Aris, you are so arrogant, even right here in saying to Steve White "Glad you *finally* saw reason". Amazing.

Posted by Tom 2005-02-06 10:26:47 AM|| 2005-02-06 10:26:47 AM|| Front Page Top

#12 According to Mike and Aris, the answer is to force everyone else in Rantburg to change so as not to rile up or cause distress to the town fool or the town crank. They're sensitive when it suits them, and nasty when that suits them, but always so innocent - and damned quick to whine and kow-tow to perceived authority. Ultimately, they are prime examples of the New Man of the pussified Western Society. Introducing low-grade strife without end because an end would require decisive action which might be construed as violence, which is never ever allowed anymore. Violence Bad. Resolution. Bad. Clarity. Bad. Gray pointless posturing and preaching. Good. Arrogance without come-uppance. Good. Absurdity. Good.

I was taught that when wrong, one should fess-up to it. I do that. I've never seen it from either of these two. Never. No matter how absurd it gets, such as a Greek child lecturing Americans on Americanisms, never is any class or honor shown. Face to face, I'd fuck him up. Really fuck him up. That is my way: if wrong - fess-up, if not, press the point until I get an "uncle" - but always resolve the damned problem, now. I'm definitely not happy with this endless shit.

I do believe it is time for a decision - the hard one - where someone leaves town. On a rail, with or without tar and feathers, whatever floats the Sheriff's boat. But we do have two particular individuals who've decided they will remake RB in their image and demand pussification, er, justice.

I'm inclined to agree, for a change. Being an American who luckily missed out on the New Man Pussification Revolution, I'm not very good with the kow-tow shit. So if it's me, the door will not hit me in the ass, because RB has become WankTown.

Posted by .com 2005-02-06 10:27:39 AM|| 2005-02-06 10:27:39 AM|| Front Page Top

#13
the Diplomad blog retirement post would have resulted in your suspension from here

What would .com, Tom or Frank G have to write for you to recommend a suspension for them? What would they have to write for you to recommend even that their nasty, vulgar, abusive comments even been ejected to the sink trap?

I'm not going to praise the moderators. They have the sink trap, and they don't use it. They allow three or four people to personally abuse others day after day after day, and then the moderators ask all the children to behave.

I do apologize for the Diplomad remark. Sorry, Diplomad, whereever you are! If you ever drop by South Hackensack, call me up, and I'll buy you a drink. Friends?
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Posted by Mike Sylwester 2005-02-06 10:31:47 AM|| 2005-02-06 10:31:47 AM|| Front Page Top

#14 Wow, Mikey, I'm shocked that you've posted 3 out of 13 times here and not mentioned "#79" like you did about a dozen times yesterday. You also haven't reprinted any of it today. Think that was enough repetition and bandwidth hogging and ready to move on?

Posted by Tom 2005-02-06 10:37:12 AM|| 2005-02-06 10:37:12 AM|| Front Page Top

#15
I find it interesting that Mikey is certain that Frank G has been posting the "It's all about meeeeeeee" comments. I know that Fred can check IP addresses, but I didn't know that Mikey can.

Look at this link, #9.

No matter who was posting these comments, the moderators should have started sending them to the sink trap long, long ago.
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Posted by Mike Sylwester 2005-02-06 10:42:39 AM|| 2005-02-06 10:42:39 AM|| Front Page Top

#16 I'm not going to praise the moderators. They have the sink trap, and they don't use it. They allow three or four people to personally abuse others day after day after day, and then the moderators ask all the children to behave.

I agree! They're too many meanies on this blog. You know who you are. Pulling wings off litter flies won't get you into me version of heaven. But meby it's all for the best. If it were me I'd me rely let 'em troll in peace. Perhaps Mucki will strike up the RantBurg Choir for a Chorus of Jebus Ima Love them litter Chilrun.

Posted by Shipman 2005-02-06 10:43:35 AM|| 2005-02-06 10:43:35 AM|| Front Page Top

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Re #12 (.com) I was taught that when wrong, one should fess-up to it. I do that.

Do you have any sense of irony at all that might enable you to recognize how ludicrous you are to call other people "attention whores" for posting a lot of comments?
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Posted by Mike Sylwester 2005-02-06 10:44:34 AM|| 2005-02-06 10:44:34 AM|| Front Page Top

#18 What would .com, Tom or Frank G have to write for you to recommend a suspension for them?

Something like:

Does he plan to take this opportunity to go into rehab?
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Posted by: Mike Sylwester 2005-02-05 8:23:32 AM Top Rantburg

I don't know if I would have banned .com, Tom, or Frank G for some of the things they've said about Aris, or if I would have banned Aris for some of the things he's said about them (or about Americans, conservatives, or southerners in general).

I know that sometimes I have actually defended Aris' presence here in spite of the fact that he has been a difficult person. (And occasionally regretted this the next day when he launches into another insultfest, but I digress).

The point isn't whether you think .com, Frank, or Tom have been pissing in the well. The point is that you have pissed in the well yourself, in a post that NOONE else (whether .com, Frank, or Tom) had commented on, bright and early at 8:23 Eastern Standard Time.

Posted by Phil Fraering 2005-02-06 10:51:58 AM|| [http://newsfromthefridge.typepad.com] 2005-02-06 10:51:58 AM|| Front Page Top

#19 It's not the quantity of comments that is at issue, it's the mindless repetition. Mike can tell us daily for weeks that Kofi and Kojo are innocent altar boys, and Aris can fester on one word or question forever, not comprehending that he's not getting an answer because he has a combination arrogance/American comprehension problem. Day in, day out, over and over.

Posted by Tom 2005-02-06 10:54:10 AM|| 2005-02-06 10:54:10 AM|| Front Page Top

#20 RB exists to elicit comments. The key is the commentary, itself, the content or lack, the humor or lack, the point or lack.

Your stunt yesterday was supposed to prove something, I presume. It did. How pointless you can be when your little shorts get in a bunch. That, was ludicrous.

And for you and Aris to whine here today, allies in your asinine pot => kettle game? That's irony.

Posted by .com 2005-02-06 10:56:19 AM|| 2005-02-06 10:56:19 AM|| Front Page Top

#21 too true> There's a fine line between advancing the conversation by taking a minority view and regularly insisting on the last word.

And how have I been "insisting" on said last word, other than by the fact I refuse to be bullied into silence by retarded insults on my person, nation or continent by wimps who wouldn't know logical argumentation if it bit them on the "ars"?

I don't show my belly in submission. You know why? Because I'm not a dog, I'm a person. If you want to convince someone, try to convince him, don't droolishly growl at him.

Funny that Mike's and Aris' responses have been to basically imply that everyone else trolls, but they don't.

Have I ever "spoofed signatures"? Mmm, no I haven't. Have I ever stalked anyone? Mmm, no I haven't. Have I ever made mocking "It's all about me" posts? Mmm, no I haven't. Have I ever made "ignore" posts? Mmm, no I haven't. Have I ever just posted only to make fun of a person's choice of words or expressions? Mmm, no I haven't. Have I ever admitted to trolling or playing games with other posters and having them for my toys? Mmm, no I haven't.

Cheers.

If you dont like something then say so - once.

Keep that advice for the people who've been adding ten content-less troll-posts after any single contribution I make to any thread.

And Aris, you are so arrogant, even right here in saying to Steve White "Glad you *finally* saw reason". Amazing.

Yes, I am so arrogant. I tried to convince the moderators here a while ago that such attitude should not be acceptable. A while ago Steve essentially responded "we may ban Neonazis, but people being followed by other people don't concern us". This here is a much better reaction, atleast finding something wrong with things like spoofed signatured and trolling attacks.

I was taught that when wrong, one should fess-up to it. I do that.

No, you don't. You've insulted me ludicrously even in times when I've been politely and patiently tried to correct you on factual mistakes that you would have discovered if you'd cared to follow a single link, and your only 'fessing up to error was to again ludicrously (and lyingly) accuse me of pretending to be perfect.

You replace your errors with your lies -- *that's* your attitude.

not, press the point until I get an "uncle"

Yeah. You are a dog wanting other dogs to show their bellies. I'm a person.

I do believe it is time for a decision - the hard one - where someone leaves town.

That had been my argument also. Glad you are *also* finally seeing sense.

No matter how absurd it gets, such as a Greek child lecturing Americans on Americanisms, never is any class or honor shown.

Yeah, that's almost as stupid as Americans constantly lecturing Europeans on the EU. Except that mmm, I've never initiated a discussion on Americanism, while you people *constantly* initiate discussions on the EU.

Posted by Aris Katsaris 2005-02-06 10:57:27 AM|| [http://www.livejournal.com/~katsaris/] 2005-02-06 10:57:27 AM|| Front Page Top

#22
I don't know if I would have banned .com, Tom, or Frank G for some of the things they've said about Aris ....

Well, a lot of help you are in this discussion. We know that you would suspend one person for one posting. Thanks for your input.
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Posted by Mike Sylwester 2005-02-06 10:57:49 AM|| 2005-02-06 10:57:49 AM|| Front Page Top

#23 Having seen #21 above, I would like to have a "decision" too. I rest my case.

Posted by Tom 2005-02-06 11:00:55 AM|| 2005-02-06 11:00:55 AM|| Front Page Top

#24 LOL! We are being picked on because we are different and real smart to boot.

Posted by Shipman 2005-02-06 11:02:05 AM|| 2005-02-06 11:02:05 AM|| Front Page Top

#25
Obviously, .com does not have any sense of irony at all that might enable him to recognize that he is ludicrous for calling other people "attention whores" for posting a lot of comments.
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Posted by Mike Sylwester 2005-02-06 11:05:11 AM|| 2005-02-06 11:05:11 AM|| Front Page Top

#26 A while ago Steve essentially responded "we may ban Neonazis, but people being followed by other people don't concern us". This here is a much better reaction, atleast finding something wrong with things like spoofed signatured and trolling attacks.

How awful. Are you okay?

A bit of advice. Next 'trolling attack' or 'spoofed signature' send Fred a bill for damages done to you.

Posted by badanov 2005-02-06 11:11:08 AM|| [http://www.rkka.org/title-boris.gif] 2005-02-06 11:11:08 AM|| Front Page Top

#27 This whole issue is getting way too tedious. It reminds me of elementary school. Just say your piece and drive on.

Posted by Spot 2005-02-06 11:11:36 AM|| 2005-02-06 11:11:36 AM|| Front Page Top

#28 How awful. Are you okay? A bit of advice. Next 'trolling attack' or 'spoofed signature' send Fred a bill for damages done to you.

badanov, check out the post originating the thread. It seems to be the moderators also that find fault with such actions, even though you clearly don't.

Posted by Aris Katsaris 2005-02-06 11:14:37 AM|| [http://www.livejournal.com/~katsaris/] 2005-02-06 11:14:37 AM|| Front Page Top

#29 I may be wrong, but I believe that it was Doc White's intent to stiffle the sort of exchanges exhibited in the most of past 28 posts. It has become quite obvious that some RBers REALLY need to get a life. If the boot fits, go skiing. G'dday.

Posted by GK 2005-02-06 11:22:02 AM|| 2005-02-06 11:22:02 AM|| Front Page Top

#30 Actions?

By posting my views? Oh wait. That's right: They are so because you disagree with them not because they are particularly out of line, right Aris?

You know, I post here and read posts here because of the senses of humor many of your sworn enemies have. Aris, you are an arrogant boy with zero sense of humor and no feel for the kind of discourse I enjoy here.

So be it.

If you continue and if the moderators allow you to continue the way you have eventually, you will win, but I will fade away quietly to a friendlier blog whose owners can keep a lid on the kind of crap you post.

Posted by badanov 2005-02-06 11:23:01 AM|| [http://www.rkka.org/title-boris.gif] 2005-02-06 11:23:01 AM|| Front Page Top

#31 i think mike is an attention whore by posting all those bullshit articles all the time

Posted by Thraing Hupoluper1864 2005-02-06 11:25:24 AM|| 2005-02-06 11:25:24 AM|| Front Page Top

#32 Well, a lot of help you are in this discussion. We know that you would suspend one person for one posting. Thanks for your input.

That particular post did not stand alone. It was more like the straw that broke the camel's back in relation to you.

Although maybe you're wrong that I shouldn't suggest that one person should be banned. Perhaps Aris should be too.

Heck, I'd ban you, Aris, .com, Tom, Frank G., and myself if I could be guaranteed more postings from the likes of Old Spook and Old Patriot.

(On second thought, not .com. He does post extremely informative comments about life in the Magic Kingdom as an expatriate engineer. All I've seen from you in the past year is desperate spinning to keep from dealing with the fact that the UN is broken, which if successful will merely result in the UN staying broken instead of being fixed. You must hate the UN a great deal.)

Posted by Phil Fraering 2005-02-06 11:29:22 AM|| [http://newsfromthefridge.typepad.com] 2005-02-06 11:29:22 AM|| Front Page Top

#33 badanov, I'm not interested in your accidental-intentional "misunderstandings" of my posts.

With .com, Tom, and now you seemingly agreeing, I'm all in favour of drawing the line in the sand. Despite's .com's contempt for my respect to "perceived authority" ("pussification" he calls it), I do have respect to *actual* earned authority of human beings (aka the kind of authority that's NOT earned by mockery, bullying and growing -- behaving like dogs in a packs).

So, once again, let Fred decide what kind of behaviour he considers acceptable in his forum.

Posted by Aris Katsaris 2005-02-06 11:31:35 AM|| [http://www.livejournal.com/~katsaris/] 2005-02-06 11:31:35 AM|| Front Page Top

#34 Blocking the *asterisk* symbol must be worth a try.

Posted by Bulldog 2005-02-06 11:34:26 AM|| 2005-02-06 11:34:26 AM|| Front Page Top

#35 Blocking "I'm not interested in your" would help too.

Posted by Tom 2005-02-06 11:37:20 AM|| 2005-02-06 11:37:20 AM|| Front Page Top

#36 I see my fear that this post might be lost in the shuffle was premature.

And to those concerned about bandwidth, as of comment 32, 10 comments at 638 letters per comment for M&A, 22 comments at 475 letters per comment for all others.

Posted by Mrs. Davis 2005-02-06 11:42:44 AM|| 2005-02-06 11:42:44 AM|| Front Page Top

#37 So, once again, let Fred decide what kind of behaviour he considers acceptable in his forum.

I am sure Fred will be very happy to hear that. ;o)

Posted by badanov 2005-02-06 11:49:24 AM|| [http://www.rkka.org/title-boris.gif] 2005-02-06 11:49:24 AM|| Front Page Top

#38 Who wants to bet this thread is going to go over 75 postings, most with the "he started it!" kind of entries?
Thanks for trying, Steve, to get this back on some adult level, although it doesn't look like it is working.
I miss Old Spook, Old Patriot, and TGA. I learned so much from them when they posted, and I don't think they realized how much the rest of us looked forward to their commentaries.
And yeah, I'd miss .com's stories from his travels if he was gone. There's other people who I have noticed have cut way back on their postings ever since this stopped being a place for intelligent discussion and started being some kind of childish "playground at recess" insultfest.

Posted by Desert Blondie 2005-02-06 11:54:55 AM|| [http://azjetsetchick.blogspot.com/] 2005-02-06 11:54:55 AM|| Front Page Top

#39 Clearly the only solution is to have another Rant-a-palooza soon, and this time we'll bring dueling pistols.

Nice try, Steve, but I think the message of your original post got lost somewhere.

Posted by Dar 2005-02-06 12:09:29 PM|| 2005-02-06 12:09:29 PM|| Front Page Top

#40 [Off-topic or abusive comments deleted]

Posted by Me TROLL 2005-02-06 12:17:05 PM|| 2005-02-06 12:17:05 PM|| Front Page Top

#41 Nice one Sitzer.

Posted by Shipman 2005-02-06 12:25:47 PM|| 2005-02-06 12:25:47 PM|| Front Page Top

#42 nice - ya broke the page width...and no, Mikey, it's not me posting that. Assumptions are like, well, you know. So your nice little rant is wrong on the first assumption, making the rest gibberish. I'll call you out on your Kofi-protection racket any time you pull that crap. If that's trolling, TFB. Aris OTOH has been out of my interest range lately, and I'm not the ones he's been back-and-forthing with lately. We do have a history, of course, and I've been attemting to ignore the pugnacious infant. Will try to do even better in the future :-)

Posted by Frank G 2005-02-06 12:26:02 PM|| 2005-02-06 12:26:02 PM|| Front Page Top

#43 Aris and Mike, I think you missed the point of the original post, so let me make it more clear to you. If you don't like the way others treat you, then go play somewhere else. Stop writing posts about how Fred and the other moderators are doing or not doing their job. They are doing their job fine. It's not their job to make sure your feelings aren't hurt or to assure that others are not mean to you or that they catch all posts you don't think are fair and put them in the sink trap.

It's not your board. If you don't like the way they run it go elsewhere where or STHU.

Posted by 2b 2005-02-06 12:30:23 PM|| 2005-02-06 12:30:23 PM|| Front Page Top

#44 Hmmm, I think I wasn't blunt enough. Let me try again.

Mike Sylvester: knock it off. I appreciate that you have a different opinion than many here, and you're welcome to post those opinions. You were out of line with your comment about the Diplomad yesterday, and in retrospect I should have said so. You've been getting more out of line with the flame wars. It's getting to the point that I just pass over any comment thread in which I see your name, because I know that the balance of the thread is going to be pointless. So knock it off.

Aris: knock it off. You're welcome to post your opinions. But you've come under the impression that a discussion is something you "win", not something you have. You're not here to win, and the moderators are not going to force everyone else to conform to your standards of behavior. So knock it off.

Everyone else: it takes two to make a flame war. Frank G has the right idea in #42.

The moderators generally will not police comments. We'll deal with the trolls like Boris, etc., but we've generally left things alone otherwise. But when the discussion turns nasty to the point that we start getting e-mail from long-time regulars saying that they've decided to go elsewhere, that's when we'll say something.

And we're saying it now.

Posted by Steve White 2005-02-06 1:19:19 PM|| 2005-02-06 1:19:19 PM|| Front Page Top

#45 It's getting to the point that I just pass over any comment thread in which I see your name

There are a couple of names I pass over because of the non-sensical blather.
They don't discuss, they lecture. Its tiresome.

Posted by JerseyMike 2005-02-06 1:50:51 PM|| 2005-02-06 1:50:51 PM|| Front Page Top

#46 I hear and obey as well Steve.

To all: none of us is innocent, I've done my share of immature shit to others (namely anti-war). I've no excuse, should've just ignored her.

Some of you are trying to use the third grader argument of "trying to justify bad behavior by pointing out other bad behavior." That's childish. Steve's quite right, we're basically all on the same team - let's do the right thing.

Posted by Jeamp Ebbereting9472 aka Jarhead 2005-02-06 2:05:40 PM|| 2005-02-06 2:05:40 PM|| Front Page Top

#47 Wow. Way to exercise that self-control, guys...

Posted by mojo 2005-02-06 2:07:11 PM|| 2005-02-06 2:07:11 PM|| Front Page Top

#48 [sarcasm]

Wow.

Sarcarm tags would be nice.

[/sarcasm]

Posted by badanov 2005-02-06 2:09:42 PM|| [http://www.rkka.org/title-boris.gif] 2005-02-06 2:09:42 PM|| Front Page Top

#49 I know for a fact that there are several regular posters here who bite like lunkers at trolls. It's a pity, as usually they contribute valuable insight.

There's nothing more beautiful than reading an article with an obvious troll comment and no replies.

Loneliness is a troll's worst enemy.

Posted by gromky 2005-02-06 2:11:20 PM|| 2005-02-06 2:11:20 PM|| Front Page Top

#50 I'd also like to say that I'd like nothing more to see some real leftist posters here, people of principle who will argue their points without flaming, even when severely provoked.

Unfortunately, they are few and far between, and most of the people articulate enough to do this would consider the Rantburg audience to be no less than untermenschen.

Posted by gromky 2005-02-06 2:33:49 PM|| 2005-02-06 2:33:49 PM|| Front Page Top

#51
Well, if the moderaters here won't send Frank G's repetitive it's all about me comments, and his repetitve buttboy comments, and his repetitive whore comments to the sink trap, then I'm gone.

I'm willing to defend my opinions to anyone. If you all would rather read Frank G's vulgar, nasty, abusive personal comments, then so be it.
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Posted by Mike Sylwester 2005-02-06 2:35:00 PM|| 2005-02-06 2:35:00 PM|| Front Page Top

#52 #50 "...real leftist posters here, people of principle..." Oxymoron?

#51 Bye.

Posted by Tom 2005-02-06 2:37:29 PM|| 2005-02-06 2:37:29 PM|| Front Page Top

#53 I agree w/you gromky.

BTW - What's untermenschen?

Posted by Jeamp Ebbereting9472 aka Jarhead 2005-02-06 2:57:11 PM|| 2005-02-06 2:57:11 PM|| Front Page Top

#54 Something on the order of "sub-human" I think.

Posted by Tom 2005-02-06 3:01:16 PM|| 2005-02-06 3:01:16 PM|| Front Page Top

#55 It is German for sub-human. It was the name the nazis used for Slavic and coloured people. Jews were on another class.

Posted by JFM 2005-02-06 3:06:47 PM|| 2005-02-06 3:06:47 PM|| Front Page Top

#56 Mike & Aris,

I would rather hear from Frank and Tom anyday.

Buh Bye!!! (M. Savage sez, "Every socialist needs a slave class")

I refuse to bow down to your agenda. But I will be civil.

Posted by Poison Reverse 2005-02-06 3:13:17 PM|| 2005-02-06 3:13:17 PM|| Front Page Top

#57
You, Poison Reverse, are one of the very few people the moderators have ever warned for being so uncivil. What was that you wrote? Something about cock sucking?
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Posted by Mike Sylwester 2005-02-06 3:43:10 PM|| 2005-02-06 3:43:10 PM|| Front Page Top

#58 Mike/Kofi,

Wait just one damn minute. I have never never never used that term in RB. Before you start flinging false accusations, show me some proof.

I know, I know, anti-Americans at the U.N./Foggy Bottom, like yourself, are not used to providing any proof before accusing people. But here at RB, you are not going to get away with it. BTW, I thought you were leaving. Buh Bye!!

Posted by Poison Reverse 2005-02-06 4:03:51 PM|| 2005-02-06 4:03:51 PM|| Front Page Top

#59 I haven't been commenting as much lately, and I haven't been involved in any of these controversial threads, but it seems to me that if the moderators are asking for more civility, posters urging people to leave in the very same thread kind of shows a missing of the point . . .

Posted by The Doctor 2005-02-06 5:55:22 PM|| 2005-02-06 5:55:22 PM|| Front Page Top

#60
Poison Reverse, the statement you were reprimanded for was in this thread, #10:

Aris, The last thing I need is some eeeeeeEUCrat, anti-American, sissy boy telling people how to run their web servers. Why don't you go and do what you Eurosissies do best, hand out free needles in Amsterdam, become anti-Christian, and make friends with jihadi's? I thought Frank, .com, Old Spook, lex and I tore you a new one yesterday? Go back to your EUroHole. You are nothing but a liberal PIG.

Excuse me for my faulty memory that you said something explicitly about "cock sucking." The nice Christian expressions you used were "sissyboy," "Eurosissy," "Eurohole" and "tore you a new one".

Later, in #35, you addressed me thus: Just great, another left-winger trolling in the middle of the thread, blathering to oblivion. It's so nice of you to take time away from your super diplodick anti-American role in the U.N./Foggy Bottom, to spew your meaningless chatter.

At the time, Steve White had enough of you and wrote: Okay, PoisonReverse, as a moderator I've been really tolerant. Fair warning: you're getting close to the line. Really close. We at Rantburg are really snarky, but only to those who deserve it. Aris is not the enemy. I have a Zionist death ray, and I'm not afraid to use it.

You indeed are a very civil Christian, a model of civility for all of us. I apologize publicly for misquoting you. How unfair of me!
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Posted by Mike Sylwester 2005-02-06 6:04:59 PM|| 2005-02-06 6:04:59 PM|| Front Page Top

#61 The Doctor,

Please read ALL of the threads before commenting. You need to check out thread #51, Mike/Kofi deciding to leave, was reached, on his own accord.

Posted by Poison Reverse 2005-02-06 6:15:24 PM|| 2005-02-06 6:15:24 PM|| Front Page Top

#62
Poison Reverse, please re-phrase #61. I don't understand it at all.
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Posted by Mike Sylwester 2005-02-06 6:24:47 PM|| 2005-02-06 6:24:47 PM|| Front Page Top

#63 He said you already decided to leave.

Posted by Robert Crawford 2005-02-06 6:49:58 PM|| [http://www.kloognome.com/] 2005-02-06 6:49:58 PM|| Front Page Top

#64 Calling someone a sissyboy or sissy is anti-christian? Mike, you really have thin skin and you are very much a troll, especially from yesterday and the day before when you kept linking to threads where you just repeated everyone elses comments in one huge bandwidth hog, I've gotten to the point where I just ignore any threads that have you or Aris in them. Truth to tell I'm surprised that Fred hasn't banned the both of you yet.

Posted by Valentine 2005-02-06 6:51:40 PM|| 2005-02-06 6:51:40 PM|| Front Page Top

#65 Mike/Kofi,

You need to check/read your hyperlink one more time. Your boy Aris started trolling first (#8) and managed to insult Fred's HTML skills and I in the same thread.

BTW, you still haven't proved to me where I called a c**k sucker. I believe you accused me of calling you the specific name and you owe me a real apology.

You need to refresh on your grammar skills. I used the word "diplodick" as an adjective to describe your anti-American behavior. I didn't use the word to describe you personally. However, now that you mentioned it...hmmmmm.

My Christianity is between me and Jesus. Unless your name is Jesus, I don't answer to you. I really don't need anti-American atheists like you and Aris telling how to behave. Christians like me had to walk around rice paper around PC liberal LLL thinking for many many years now. I refuse to let you make me feel guilty to be a Christian. Christians will not take it lying down anymore and as Justice Anthony Scalia recently stated in a speech, " don't be scared to proclaim your Christianity", I will no longer be ashamed.

Posted by Poison Reverse 2005-02-06 7:30:14 PM|| 2005-02-06 7:30:14 PM|| Front Page Top

#66 Had nothing to do with HTML skills, and certainly nothing with lack of skills thereof. ASP skills possibly.

And if you consider that post to have been "trolling" or even remotely "insulting", rather than a mere polite suggestion... then please tell me how I would have to phrase it in order for the suggestion not to be "trolling".

Since we're *clearly* having linguistic differences, here.

I really don't need anti-American atheists like you and Aris telling how to behave.

I'm not anti-American. But I definitely don't need paranoid anti-European so-called Christians telling me how to behave.

I refuse to let you make me feel guilty to be a Christian.

Perhaps you should start feeling guilty that you've redefined the term "Christian" to mean whatever unChristian thing you've wished it to mean, having removed all senses of humility, pacifism and love for your fellow man from that word, trimming the concept away until it could manage to fit into your personal tendencies.

Posted by Aris Katsaris 2005-02-06 7:51:33 PM|| [http://www.livejournal.com/~katsaris/] 2005-02-06 7:51:33 PM|| Front Page Top

#67
Aris:
Fred, to prevent this from happening again, may I suggest automatically breaking up words that contain more than 50 or so characters? It shouldn't be too difficult to code.

Poison Reverse:
Aris, The last thing I need is some eeeeeeEUCrat, anti-American, sissy boy telling people how to run their web servers. Why don't you go and do what you Eurosissies do best, hand out free needles in Amsterdam, become anti-Christian, and make friends with jihadi's? I thought Frank, .com, Old Spook, lex and I tore you a new one yesterday? Go back to your EUroHole. You are nothing but a liberal PIG.

I suggest that you not be talking that way when Jesus comes.
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Posted by Mike Sylwester 2005-02-06 8:20:59 PM|| 2005-02-06 8:20:59 PM|| Front Page Top

#68
eeeeeeEUCrat

Hey!! Maybe it's Poison Reverse who keeps writing the obnoxious "It's all about meeeeeeeee!"

Poison Reverse, swear on your Christian soul that it isn't you.
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Posted by Mike Sylwester 2005-02-06 8:24:19 PM|| 2005-02-06 8:24:19 PM|| Front Page Top

#69 Mike, I have six sworn affidavits that say you're the one doing it.

Posted by Robert Crawford 2005-02-06 8:26:09 PM|| [http://www.kloognome.com/] 2005-02-06 8:26:09 PM|| Front Page Top

#70
If I were such a good Christian as Poison Reverse is, and I knew that poor Frank G was getting blamed for something I myself had been doing, then I would confess before the entire congregation.
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Posted by Mike Sylwester 2005-02-06 8:28:42 PM|| 2005-02-06 8:28:42 PM|| Front Page Top

#71 Good Lord, it's still on. In a way, it's nice, because we can read the other posts in peace.

Posted by SwissTex 2005-02-06 8:28:58 PM|| 2005-02-06 8:28:58 PM|| Front Page Top

#72 This will be my only comment on that issue:

I'd like to remind everyone what this blog is about: A common enemy, on which even Aris or Mike will agree. This blog should not be about us and our petty quarrels. Let's concentrate on the subject, on intelligent comments and analysis.

Some rather powerful people might read Rantburg...

Posted by True German Ally 2005-02-06 8:32:14 PM|| 2005-02-06 8:32:14 PM|| Front Page Top

#73
Some rather powerful people might read Rantburg...

Well, if they offer their own honest opinion, they might be called buttboys, whores, sissies, diplodicks, pussies by our three mullahs who are above criticism and who decide for everyone what is acceptable here.
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Posted by Mike Sylwester 2005-02-06 8:36:14 PM|| 2005-02-06 8:36:14 PM|| Front Page Top

#74 I just came back to have some more fun

Posted by SwissTex 2005-02-06 8:51:18 PM|| 2005-02-06 8:51:18 PM|| Front Page Top

#75 Geeze! Are you people still whining that someone hurt your whittle feelings and you want someone to kiss your boo-boo?

Grow up and quit your bellyaching already!

Posted by CrazyFool 2005-02-06 8:54:31 PM|| 2005-02-06 8:54:31 PM|| Front Page Top

#76 #38 Blondie you won.

Posted by GK 2005-02-06 8:56:40 PM|| 2005-02-06 8:56:40 PM|| Front Page Top

#77 There's other people who I have noticed have cut way back on their postings ever since this stopped being a place for intelligent discussion and started being some kind of childish "playground at recess" insultfest.

Yes.

Posted by rkb 2005-02-06 9:02:15 PM|| 2005-02-06 9:02:15 PM|| Front Page Top

#78 Can anyone imagine ignoring certain posters until they appear at the end of a thread, crying out: "Why isn't anyone responding to my very good ideas? Why isn't anyone paying attention to ME?"
Wouldn't that be fun?

Posted by Asedwich 2005-02-06 9:02:28 PM|| 2005-02-06 9:02:28 PM|| Front Page Top

#79 Not like Fred doesn't have enough going on, but is there any chance he can implement bozo filters?

Posted by Classical_Liberal 2005-02-06 10:04:08 PM|| 2005-02-06 10:04:08 PM|| Front Page Top

#80 TGA is right on in #72. We have bigger tasks than mudwrestling. We have radical Islam and the LLL to deal with. Listen to TGA's wisdom. He did not get it off a cereal box. He has paid big time for it.

Posted by Alaska Paul 2005-02-06 10:08:51 PM|| 2005-02-06 10:08:51 PM|| Front Page Top

#81 Philadelphia blew it. What wankers.

Posted by Rafael 2005-02-06 10:24:36 PM|| 2005-02-06 10:24:36 PM|| Front Page Top

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