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2005-01-12 Fifth Column
Soros group raises stakes in battle with US neo-cons
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Posted by anonymous2u 2005-01-12 12:22:14 AM|| || Front Page|| [11138 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 The sort of people this will attract are the same sort the UN attracts... The money will vaporize with little to show for it (just like the UN).
Posted by 3dc 2005-01-12 12:35:39 AM||   2005-01-12 12:35:39 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 richie rich caviar socialists of the world unite--you have nothing to lose but your western white skin privilege guilt
Posted by SON OF TOLUI 2005-01-12 12:49:20 AM||   2005-01-12 12:49:20 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 Typical liberals...got a problem? Throw money at it.
Posted by Seafarious  2005-01-12 12:51:59 AM||   2005-01-12 12:51:59 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 The Democrats had a network of foreign policy experts - who knew?
Posted by Pappy 2005-01-12 1:12:41 AM||   2005-01-12 1:12:41 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 "Money is not a problem"...well, that's nice. Unfortunately, their continued adherence to the failed tenets of Marxism/socialism is a significant one. They are doomed to failure. All the think tanks will be able to do is try and dress up the pig. I hope the money is spread around so good capitalists can use it.
Posted by Remoteman 2005-01-12 1:48:08 AM||   2005-01-12 1:48:08 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 Throw money
Throw more money
Throw even more money
At a Problem you cannot buy or bribe
We of the Problem will be glad to take you all to the cleaners!

Jack.
Posted by Jack Deth  2005-01-12 2:51:45 AM||   2005-01-12 2:51:45 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 Herb and Marion Sandler, Golden West Savings and Loan; and Peter Lewis, the chairman of an Ohio insurance company,the aptly named Progressive

Now there's two companies you might want to avoid. Anyone willing to pee away such large sums of money for lost causes isn't going to get a chance to handle mine.
Posted by 2b 2005-01-12 3:55:44 AM||   2005-01-12 3:55:44 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 oh...and Stephen Bing and ,Andrew Stern, president of the Service Employees International Union, are both reputed mobsters....

which is where I think all arrows point in the current Democratic party.
Posted by 2b 2005-01-12 3:59:27 AM||   2005-01-12 3:59:27 AM|| Front Page Top

#9 Look, if they actually develop viable ideas, we will all benefit from the ensuing discussions. In the meantime, a number of Liberal/Progressive (whatever that means) thinkers will be taken out of circulation, while they concentrate on thinking up new stuff and enjoying their comfortable surroundings. If, in the end, as I think is more likely, nothing more comes of it than the enjoyment, this select group of philanthropists will have less money to annoy us with later. Also a very good thing, no?
Posted by trailing wife 2005-01-12 4:06:56 AM||   2005-01-12 4:06:56 AM|| Front Page Top

#10 What is it about having a Brinks truck or 2 filled with cash that makes these people want to impose socialism on everyone?
They ought to start by giving away all of their personal wealth to benefit the greater good, creating an example for the rest of us.

Singing Kumbaya to your enemies and socialism fail consistantly, but if they want to try to make that a feasible political stance in the US, well what can you say?, fools and their money are soon parted.

Posted by JerseyMike 2005-01-12 7:34:04 AM||   2005-01-12 7:34:04 AM|| Front Page Top

#11 It would be interesting to know how much this group donated to tsunami relief. I believe Soros is in for zilch.
Posted by Mrs. Davis 2005-01-12 7:55:00 AM||   2005-01-12 7:55:00 AM|| Front Page Top

#12 I have heard suspicions that Soros had his origins, and got his seed money, from a Soviet-bloc intelligence service. A true believer in the eventual victory of communism, he is still running on auto-pilot, with his foundation trying to interfere in the democratic process in a half dozen countries, with very little success.
Posted by Anonymoose 2005-01-12 9:31:15 AM||   2005-01-12 9:31:15 AM|| Front Page Top

#13 What's this?

"...even larger sum over a longer period to building institutions to foster progressive ideas
...“joint investment to build intellectual infrastructure”...

Are Harvard, Berkley, etc. having another building fund drive?

Good grief, they already own the entire acadhimmic world what's one more think tank supposed to do? But, hey, if you want to pour money down the sewer.....
Posted by AlanC  2005-01-12 9:34:59 AM||   2005-01-12 9:34:59 AM|| Front Page Top

#14 Article: George Soros, who made his fortune in the hedge fund industry; Herb and Marion Sandler, the California couple who own a multi-billion-dollar savings and loan business; and Peter Lewis, the chairman of an Ohio insurance company, donated more than $63m (£34m) in the 2004 election cycle to organisations seeking to defeat George W. Bush. ... Stephen Bing, a film producer and heir to a real estate fortune who donated $13m, is also expected to be involved in the investment in progressive infrastructure. Andrew Stern, who is president of the Service Employees International Union, has been working to include organised labour in the initiative.

The Muslim media think that conservatives are funded by big-time Jewish moneymen. But every single one of these left-wing nutjobs is Jewish. Where are all the big-money Jewish funders of conservatism? What the Muslim media haven't figured out is that the 9/11 attacks have fuelled a grassroots antagonism towards Muslims among conservatives that won't go away, no matter what a bunch of left-wing Jewish billionaires and anti-American Arab billionaire sheiks have to say about it.
Posted by Zhang Fei  2005-01-12 9:39:39 AM|| [http://timurileng.blogspot.com]  2005-01-12 9:39:39 AM|| Front Page Top

#15 He keeps wanting to flush money down the toilet like this, he'll be cutting hedges for a living.
Posted by tu3031 2005-01-12 9:55:06 AM||   2005-01-12 9:55:06 AM|| Front Page Top

#16 JM naied it. Fools and money.
Posted by 2b 2005-01-12 10:34:03 AM||   2005-01-12 10:34:03 AM|| Front Page Top

#17 "Money is not a problem". They at least got that right, although I don't think they understand the actual meaning of the statment. Its not money, its about ideas. Basic human freedom.

The problem for the left, and especially self-important windbags like Soros, is this is not a fight about message or money - its the IDEAS behind the message that matter. The left still doesnt get it: their IDEAS are wrong - they are broken, they do not work, and most of America rejects them no matter how you package them. You can put 3 stripes on a turd and call it "Gucci" but only the gullible types who already support Soros and his collectivist socialist pals are going to buy it.

And all the money Soros wants to throw at this will be like pissing in the wind - his brand of collectivism is antithetical to "Red State" Americans. Always has been, always will be. And will be rejected the same way.
Posted by OldSpook 2005-01-12 11:01:06 AM||   2005-01-12 11:01:06 AM|| Front Page Top

#18 For an example of the ideas not the packaging, see "Air American" and its continuing spiral into the ground.

Hey Soros, give them some more money. Support Air america, pour your money into that black hole, buy advertizing there for your lefty causes.

BWAHAHAH!
Posted by OldSpook 2005-01-12 11:02:31 AM||   2005-01-12 11:02:31 AM|| Front Page Top

#19 Progressive INsurance?

Golden West S&L?

OK - onto the boycott list they go. I do not want ANY of my discretionary money going into the pockets of those who would use it curtial my liberty and detroy this nation with collectivism.

Somone got a web page set up to inform the many conservatives and libertarians who may be inadvertently contributing to people who would like to see conservatism (and libertarianism) destroyed and outlawed?
Posted by OldSpook 2005-01-12 11:07:21 AM||   2005-01-12 11:07:21 AM|| Front Page Top

#20 At a state level, the aim is to build what one person called a “deeper progressive bench”.

If I can speak "liberalese" correctly, this means there going after State-level (not Feds) judges too? Man, they've got another thing coming if they're going to mix in State politics also!
Posted by BA  2005-01-12 11:23:05 AM||   2005-01-12 11:23:05 AM|| Front Page Top

#21 BA, "a deeper bench" means getting more Democrat progressives into local and state politics, thus creating a deeper pool of candidates. California is a prime example of this.
Posted by Pappy 2005-01-12 1:16:36 PM||   2005-01-12 1:16:36 PM|| Front Page Top

#22 coming to a school board near you. Don't we have laws against foreigners contributing to elections?
Posted by 2b 2005-01-12 2:14:00 PM||   2005-01-12 2:14:00 PM|| Front Page Top

#23 2b: coming to a school board near you. Don't we have laws against foreigners contributing to elections?

Soros is a naturalized US citizen.
Posted by Zhang Fei  2005-01-12 2:18:26 PM|| [http://timurileng.blogspot.com]  2005-01-12 2:18:26 PM|| Front Page Top

#24 Pennies from heaven will beat billions from hell any day.
Posted by Captain America  2005-01-12 4:56:01 PM||   2005-01-12 4:56:01 PM|| Front Page Top

#25 Yo' George! I've got a wedding to pay for this year. How 'bout a little love? C'mon... just a little bit. I'm sure I can Progress. (Just what is it that so-called Progressives are trying to make progress toward, anyway? And why do you suppose they can't openly state it?)
Posted by eLarson 2005-01-12 10:21:50 PM|| [http://larsonian.blogspot.com]  2005-01-12 10:21:50 PM|| Front Page Top

#26 "Money is not a problem". They at least got that right, although I don't think they understand the actual meaning of the statment. Its not money, its about ideas. Basic human freedom.

The problem for the left, and especially self-important windbags like Soros, is this is not a fight about message or money - its the IDEAS behind the message that matter. The left still doesnt get it: their IDEAS are wrong - they are broken, they do not work, and most of America rejects them no matter how you package them. You can put 3 stripes on a turd and call it "Gucci" but only the gullible types who already support Soros and his collectivist socialist pals are going to buy it.

And all the money Soros wants to throw at this will be like pissing in the wind - his brand of collectivism is antithetical to "Red State" Americans. Always has been, always will be. And will be rejected the same way.
Posted by OldSpook 2005-01-12 11:01:06 AM||   2005-01-12 11:01:06 AM|| Front Page Top

#27 For an example of the ideas not the packaging, see "Air American" and its continuing spiral into the ground.

Hey Soros, give them some more money. Support Air america, pour your money into that black hole, buy advertizing there for your lefty causes.

BWAHAHAH!
Posted by OldSpook 2005-01-12 11:02:31 AM||   2005-01-12 11:02:31 AM|| Front Page Top

#28 Progressive INsurance?

Golden West S&L?

OK - onto the boycott list they go. I do not want ANY of my discretionary money going into the pockets of those who would use it curtial my liberty and detroy this nation with collectivism.

Somone got a web page set up to inform the many conservatives and libertarians who may be inadvertently contributing to people who would like to see conservatism (and libertarianism) destroyed and outlawed?
Posted by OldSpook 2005-01-12 11:07:21 AM||   2005-01-12 11:07:21 AM|| Front Page Top

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