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2004-12-17 Europe

Turkey will be Islamic 'Trojan Horse' in Europe: Qaddafi

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Posted by Fred 2004-12-17 00:00:00|| || Front Page|| [2 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 ROFL!!! Torpedoed by Khadaffy hisownself, lol! Gul shoulda bought off all the mouthy Mo' guys, heh. Especially those that wear funny hats... I'm tellin' ya, those Hat Guyz need to be watched very very closely...

Posted by .com 2004-12-17 1:55:30 AM|| 2004-12-17 1:55:30 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 Khaddafi has ever opposed the Islamic BrotherHood and similar orgainizations. I suppose there is something good in nearly every man.

Posted by JFM 2004-12-17 2:05:40 AM|| 2004-12-17 2:05:40 AM|| Front Page Top

Posted by .com 2004-12-17 4:52:19 AM|| 2004-12-17 4:52:19 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 Wow--maybe there's something therapeutic about being surrounded by hot bodyguard babes that lets clear thinking and logic take root. Good on ya, Mo'!

Posted by Dar 2004-12-17 10:17:32 AM|| 2004-12-17 10:17:32 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 Hey EU when MO MO starts towing the mark against Islamonazi's you may want to back off the hooka-pipe. Turkey's a problem just like the rest of the hairnets.

Posted by Rightwing 2004-12-17 12:58:48 PM|| 2004-12-17 12:58:48 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 Troy was destroyed by the Ancient Greeks. Too bad the modern Greeks have been unable to stand up to Turkey in the last century.

Posted by Kalle (kafir forever) 2004-12-17 5:45:02 PM|| [http://radio.weblogs.com/0103811/categories/currentEvents/] 2004-12-17 5:45:02 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 trtying to bait me into an Aris thread, Kalle? LOL

Posted by Frank G 2004-12-17 5:48:27 PM|| 2004-12-17 5:48:27 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 At the Helsinki European Council, Greece sold its longstanding objections over Turkey's entry, with Cyprus's admission into the Union as the price.

I think it was a deal VERY well made, especially since Greek objections weren't needed when French ones will do ever so nicely.

Not to mention that if it wasn't for that lying crook, Tassos Papadopoulos, we'd also have gotten a reunified Cyprus in the deal -- but I guess that was the Cypriots' choice.

Posted by Aris Katsaris 2004-12-17 5:58:36 PM|| 2004-12-17 5:58:36 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 I'm still not sure I understand the purpose of Turkey in the EU. I get the distinct impression that the EU is meant to be a superstate on a federal pattern, somewhat like the US model. But a country is more than just a system of common regulations. Sooner or later it is necessary to make some sacrifices for the common good, and you need to have some sense of a common bond. This can be a common tribal identity, common "race," common shared history or language, common religion, or common 'secular' culture (emphasis on CULT in culture) or some combination. Japan unites around a common race and shared history, the US united around a common secular culture and eventually a shared history. I'm not sure just how united India is.
If the EU were simply a grand trading zone, there'd be nothing odd about adding Turkey. But I'm not quite sure how far even the existing states share the same culture, let alone Turkey, which doesn't have an even remotely similar religious tradition. And religion is a fundamental component of culture.
The EU is an interesting experiment; trying to create a country out of a voluntary empire. By comparison creating the US was a peice of cake--we started off with relatively little history of internal conflict, similar versions of the same religion, and a pretty widely accepted secular mission. And even so we suffered from a little set-to about 140 years ago.
A little thought-experiment: would a Danish citizen feel threatened by a bandit attack in Turkey, and be willing to help stop them? Would a Turk feel threatened by an IRA bombing in London?

Posted by James 2004-12-17 11:45:21 PM|| [http://idontknowbut.blogspot.com] 2004-12-17 11:45:21 PM|| Front Page Top

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