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2004-11-18 Europe
Mr. Ivory Coast, Chirac says Iraq war created more dangerous world
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Posted by Mark Espinola 2004-11-18 4:46:05 AM|| || Front Page|| [4 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Lol - dangerous for whom mon ami? And what would a scumball like you know about honest brokers, Mssr Chirac, hmmmm?
Posted by .com 2004-11-18 5:13:33 AM||   2004-11-18 5:13:33 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 YAWN
Posted by raptor 2004-11-18 5:14:16 AM||   2004-11-18 5:14:16 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 
It's fair to argue that in the short run our invasion of Iraq has caused an increase of terrorism. Right now, Iraq is still a failed state that cannot control the development of terrorist organizations on its territory. And right now, our occupation of Iraq provides a plausible justification for Moslem terrorism.

However, in the long run, our invasion of Iraq will serve to grind down Islam terrorism -- its infrastructure and its justifications. We are enabling Moslem opponents of their terrorists to speak out, to debate, to criticise, to inform, and to fight back.

For the first time in their lives Iraq's Moslems will experience some justice and freedom, and many of them won't want to enslave themselves in another Islamic tyranny.
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Posted by Mike Sylwester 2004-11-18 7:51:55 AM||   2004-11-18 7:51:55 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 Last year’s U.S.-led invasion of Iraq and ousting of President Saddam Hussein has made the world more dangerous Would that be for France?
Posted by phil_b 2004-11-18 7:59:49 AM||   2004-11-18 7:59:49 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 If only the "power brokers" in Iraq, and we are repeatedly told Sistani is an example of one who is apolitical and all that, would do something real, substantive, selfless. Be a phreakin' Founding Father. If only they were honest men with vision, then the day you refer to would come a helluvalot sooner.

As it is, we satisfy ourselves with the fact that what jihadis are being created are determined to step onto the flypaper and meet the killing machine. There is always an end to the pool of people with the stones to act - even in Islam. But in that pool there are more fools than there are good men and women who can shake off the indoctrination.
Posted by .com 2004-11-18 8:04:40 AM||   2004-11-18 8:04:40 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 
Re #5 (.com):
There are many Iraqis who are doing something real, substantive and selfless to try to develop a democracy in their country.

I don't remember that I was ever told even once that Sistani is apolitical. I remember that I was told that he does not want the clergy to govern, but that he does want the government to obey Islamic principles. And I was told that he wants elections, because the Shia will dominate an elected government.

Don't be too pessimistic.
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Posted by Mike Sylwester 2004-11-18 9:20:46 AM||   2004-11-18 9:20:46 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 um, Jacque who? France-what, now?
Posted by BH 2004-11-18 10:14:13 AM||   2004-11-18 10:14:13 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 So did American participation in WWII. It led to half-a-million American dead and millions of foreign dead among America's WWII allies, who might have surrendered, had they not been supplied by Uncle Sam. Not to mention the millions of Japanese and German dead that wouldn't have occurred without American intervention. If the US had stayed out, its losses might have been limited to the 3000 at Pearl Harbor.
Posted by Zhang Fei  2004-11-18 10:22:54 AM|| [http://timurileng.blogspot.com]  2004-11-18 10:22:54 AM|| Front Page Top

#9 Ah, but the world is now a much more dangerous place....for secret bank accounts, traditional contract corruption, and comfortable retirements along the Riviera. All the great French political sport we've all come to enjoy and admire.
Posted by Don 2004-11-18 10:48:30 AM||   2004-11-18 10:48:30 AM|| Front Page Top

#10 Pardon Moi, but of course we cannot help, because the world is tres dangerous! We shall all be quite safe here behind the Maginot line!
Posted by Snoluck Thrusing8442 2004-11-18 4:15:47 PM||   2004-11-18 4:15:47 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 Jacky's been spouting an enormous amount of merde these days-- even by his standards. I have to think that this is a pre-emptive media offensive designed to keep the MSM off the scent of Jacky ChIraki's biggest con.

My bet's that we'll soon find out about OFF-related kickbacks directed ChIrak's way, either through oil trader intermediaries or else via TotalFinaElf as part of the Nov 2002 sweetheart deal with Saddam for W Qurna.
Posted by lex 2004-11-18 4:23:47 PM||   2004-11-18 4:23:47 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 Zhang Fei, I am reading correctly. You are saying after the Jap sneek attack at Pearl Harbor America should have 'stayed out'. I have have words but better not print them here.
Posted by Mark Espinola 2004-11-18 11:15:54 PM||   2004-11-18 11:15:54 PM|| Front Page Top

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