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2004-10-06 Home Front: Culture Wars
Puppet Sex Leads to Rating Rift
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Posted by tu3031 2004-10-06 1:02:27 PM|| || Front Page|| [11128 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 I'm sure the MPAA would approve it if the puppets were of the same gender....
Posted by Whumble Sneth6418 2004-10-06 1:20:02 PM||   2004-10-06 1:20:02 PM|| Front Page Top

#2 Hmm - Wood puppets having sex?

There once was a movie where a mannequin came alive as Kim Cattrall (pre-Sex & the City) and rolled around with the Male lead, only to return to wood status when other people were around...

Hmm - Puppet sex without the implements. And MPAA is upset? Odd people to be getting prudish these days...
Posted by BigEd 2004-10-06 1:26:44 PM||   2004-10-06 1:26:44 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 BigEd: Are we thinking of the same movie? 'Cuz I don't remember KC getting peed on in Mannequin. Maybe that was the director's cut. I do remember how impressed I was with the special effects; that is, my own wood status was inversely proportional to hers. ;)

Posted by BH 2004-10-06 2:52:10 PM||   2004-10-06 2:52:10 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 Never saw director's cut.
Posted by BigEd 2004-10-06 3:06:55 PM||   2004-10-06 3:06:55 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 Tim Robbins puppet is set afire , Susan Sarandon puppet is dropped off a 20-story building , "We blow Janeane Garofalo’s head clean off"

Now that's what I call entertainment!
Posted by Steve  2004-10-06 3:08:46 PM||   2004-10-06 3:08:46 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 "Team America" features violent scenes in which a Tim Robbins puppet is set afire and a Susan Sarandon puppet is dropped off a 20-story building — all acts that passed MPAA muster. "We blow Janeane Garofalo’s head clean off, [but for the MPAA] it’s all about the positions of the dolls having sex," Parker said. "It’s not funny — it’s tragic."

I'm gonna see it just for those scenes.

But to get past the MPAA, they should do what Mel Brooks did in "Blazing Saddles" -- fade to black and let the soundtrack suggest what's happening.

("It's twue! It's twue!")
Posted by Robert Crawford  2004-10-06 3:13:24 PM|| [http://www.kloognome.com]  2004-10-06 3:13:24 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 We blow Janeane Garofalo’s head clean off

{Snicker}

Those words remind me...

"Ah Ah, I know what you're thinking, punk. You're thinkin', 'Did he fire six shots or only five?' Now, to tell you the truth, I've forgot myself in all this excitement. But being as this is the .44 Magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world, and will blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself a question: 'Do I feel lucky?' Well, do ya, punk?"




Posted by BigEd 2004-10-06 3:31:36 PM||   2004-10-06 3:31:36 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 hey! don't go dis janeane! >:(
Posted by muck4doo 2004-10-06 3:32:24 PM|| [http://meatismurder.blogspot.com/]  2004-10-06 3:32:24 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 

Tim Robbins puppet is set afire and a Susan Sarandon puppet is dropped off a 20-story building

2 for the price of 1!
Posted by BigEd 2004-10-06 3:34:26 PM||   2004-10-06 3:34:26 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 I would like to see Sean Penn getting the life beat out of him by a bunch of photojournalists. But I'd settle for a puppet representation of it.
Posted by BH 2004-10-06 4:13:19 PM||   2004-10-06 4:13:19 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 Some good sense from Scott and Parker:

And they say that if you're persuaded to change your vote because of a puppet movie, there may be something wrong with you. "If anyone walks out of this movie, or a Michael Moore movie, thinking about voting a certain way, then they're [bleeping] stupid and shouldn't be voting," says Stone. "If this movie makes you think that much, then you're too weak-kneed to vote."

Refreshing from Hollywood ...
Posted by VAMark 2004-10-06 5:21:52 PM||   2004-10-06 5:21:52 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 The MPAA is totally correct on this.

Abstracting sexual acts using puppets carries huge connotations regarding the objectification of sexual relationships in general, and promotes abuse-oriented consequences for women (having to do with the objectification of women) and deconstructs normative cultural taboos regarding sex with children.

This claim probably doesn't make sense to very many here , and I don't have time for a dissertation to prove my point, but NC-17 is the right call. The kind of "humor" the director is going for belongs (if it belongs at all) within an ADULT context, because adults (hopefully) possess the cognitive and emotional ability to put it in the proper frame of reference.

The makers of the film want an R rating so they can make more money--AND THAT'S THE ONLY REASON.

Posted by ex-lib 2004-10-06 5:31:19 PM||   2004-10-06 5:31:19 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 ex-lib - get a life
Posted by Frank G  2004-10-06 6:08:27 PM||   2004-10-06 6:08:27 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 9.4
You had me going.
Posted by Shipman 2004-10-06 6:17:02 PM||   2004-10-06 6:17:02 PM|| Front Page Top

#15 The makers of the film want an R rating so they can make more money--AND THAT'S THE ONLY REASON.

Good for them. I'll go pay to see the R rated movie, and then I'll buy the Unrated DVD to see all the graphic, bad puppet sex. Can't wait. Thank God for the Sneak Preview this weekend.

As Cartman would say, "Suck my balls."
Posted by nada 2004-10-06 7:15:40 PM||   2004-10-06 7:15:40 PM|| Front Page Top

#16 nada quotes ex-lib:  The makers of the film want an R rating so they can make more money--AND THAT'S THE ONLY REASON. And, then nada adds:
Good for them. I'll go pay to see the R rated movie, and then I'll buy the Unrated DVD to see all the graphic, bad puppet sex. Can't wait. Thank God for the Sneak Preview this weekend. As Cartman would say, "Suck my balls."
Ah, did I miss something?

As I read ex-lib’s post, she isn’t saying a damn thing about censoring the film. Her only point was that The MPAA is totally correct on this.

If we set up organizations like the MPAA, I’d like to think they work. I don’t want to take my kid to a “PG-13” rated movie, only to find out that it should have been rated “NC-17” or “XXX.” I may even want to see a “XXX” rated movie, but not with my kid. Similarly, just imagine your disappointment going to a “NC-17” movie that should have been rated “PG-13.” That would just suck, now, wouldn’t it?

IMO, ex-lib’s other points go to why movies are rated what they are rated. I don’t think she likes the promotion of casual sex and objectification of women. So what? That’s got to at least be a valid viewpoint. But, then again, maybe ex-lib's opinions can't be "allowed" if you find yourself feeling threatened by points of view contrary to your own.
Posted by cingold 2004-10-06 10:30:24 PM||   2004-10-06 10:30:24 PM|| Front Page Top

#17 nada--(which I presume refers to your brain or, more precisely, the lack thereof)--suck your own balls, twerp. I'm a big Southpark fan, so, STFU. You missed my point, and have now been officially entered into the anti-intellectual poster category at Rantburg University. And so what if you're going to go see the movie--I probably will too.

For everyone else: My point about them wanting to make more money with an "R" rating (when they know their film is really an NC-17), even though they're "arguing" that their film is an "R" film, is just them trying to garner more cash because R-rated films can draw a larger audience. THAT'S THE ONLY POINT I WAS MAKING about that. I thought it was pretty much like those guys to try to get what they can get. And I don't really blame them. (You've got to visit Southpark, Colorado, to really understand why that is.)

Frank G.--I presume you're telling me to "get a life" because you couldn't follow the points I was making if your life depended on it. (See note to nada, above, and apply to self).
Posted by ex-lib 2004-10-06 10:46:07 PM||   2004-10-06 10:46:07 PM|| Front Page Top

#18 The MPAA is upset that these guys last movie had a subtitle "Bigger, longer and uncut" that is a penis joke and they didn't get it until the film screened. They felt like fools and the petty dictators are now taking it out on a technicality because they can.
Posted by RJSchwarz 2004-10-06 10:51:12 PM|| [http://politicaljunky.blogspot.com]  2004-10-06 10:51:12 PM|| Front Page Top

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