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2004-08-31 Europe
Putin, Schroeder and Chirac vow to work for Iraq stability
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Posted by Fred 2004-08-31 20:24|| || Front Page|| [11131 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Incredible -- first the trio stands idly by while a sovereign country is destroyed on basis of lies about WMD, and now they want to profit by doing business in the war-torn country.
Posted by UFO 2004-08-31 8:57:08 PM|| [http://politicsandcurrentevents.com]  2004-08-31 8:57:08 PM|| Front Page Top

#2 What lies? All the evidence said Saddam had WMD. Heck, the peaceniks were using their existence as a reason to NOT invade, claiming Saddam would unleash a bloodbath by USING the weapons the left now claims they always knew were never there.

For that matter, what sovereign nation? Iraq wasn't sovereign, it was ruled by a dictator.
Posted by Robert Crawford  2004-08-31 8:59:29 PM|| [http://www.kloognome.com/]  2004-08-31 8:59:29 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 Even if your inane premise were true, that's not really incredible except to a child. Oops, I repeated myself!

HAND / FOAD
Posted by .com 2004-08-31 9:00:06 PM||   2004-08-31 9:00:06 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 Well, there's no reasoning with the unreasonable, or in this case with those whose interests lie with Israel which is the sole beneficiary of aggression against her Moslem neighbors. What I regret is that my tax dollars are used to destroy life and property, and yes, in a sovereign country that has done nothing against the United States. BTW, sovereignty is defined by international borders, not by the regime within.
Posted by UFO 2004-08-31 9:16:26 PM|| [http://politicsandcurrentevents.com]  2004-08-31 9:16:26 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 UFO: Incredible -- first the trio stands idly by while a sovereign country is destroyed on basis of lies about WMD, and now they want to profit by doing business in the war-torn country.

Incredible -- first UFO stands idly by while Saddam is toppled on basis of American national interests, and now he wants to criticize the countries that did the most to help Saddam stay in power. What has UFO ever done for Saddam? Shouldn't he be in Iraq helping to bring him back to power? Or does he think that his whining alone will do the trick?
Posted by Zhang Fei  2004-08-31 9:20:48 PM|| [http://timurileng.blogspot.com]  2004-08-31 9:20:48 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 Wow. More deep stuff. Really deep. Well that settles it, I'm with UFO! What he sez. You're all thievin' pirates and brigands! Arrrrggghhh!
Posted by .com 2004-08-31 9:21:34 PM||   2004-08-31 9:21:34 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 UFO: Well, there's no reasoning with the unreasonable, or in this case with those whose interests lie with Israel which is the sole beneficiary of aggression against her Moslem neighbors.

Well, there's no reasoning with the unreasonable, or in this case with those whose interests lie with Islam which is the sole beneficiary of aggression against its non-Moslem neighbors.

UFO: What I regret is that my tax dollars are used to destroy life and property, and yes, in a sovereign country that has done nothing against the United States.

Except sponsor and shelter terrorists who killed dozens of Americans and invaded a sovereign country Kuwait, endangering American oil supplies, and threatening to invade Saudi Arabia.

Note that apart from Pearl Harbor and its invasion of an American colony, Japan had done nothing against the US either. There was certainly no invasion of the American mainland.

If you don't like it, withhold your taxes. Or better still, move to a more "humanitarian" country where your taxes will be better spent - like Canada or Sweden.

UFO: BTW, sovereignty is defined by international borders, not by the regime within.

We had no respect for Germany's, Japan's or Italy's sovereignty either. If you don't like America's policy of fighting its enemies abroad - you can certainly move to a neutral country. Or better still - volunteer to fight in the army of the dictator that is clearly in the right - Saddam's army. I believe the people of Fallujah would dearly welcome your presence.
Posted by Zhang Fei  2004-08-31 9:28:48 PM|| [http://timurileng.blogspot.com]  2004-08-31 9:28:48 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 ZF, don't try to take issues to a personal level with me because you can't reach that high. BTW, I won't dignify the rest of your nonsense with an answer.
Posted by UFO 2004-08-31 9:37:34 PM|| [http://politicsandcurrentevents.com]  2004-08-31 9:37:34 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 Well, there's no reasoning with the unreasonable, or in this case with those whose interests lie with Israel which is the sole beneficiary of aggression against her Moslem neighbors.

Listen, Saucer-boy, you're the one who started slinging insults. Or at least trying to. You attacked the arguers, not the arguments. Hell, you ignored most of the arguments.

Sovereignty doesn't arise from lines on the map, it comes from the consent of the governed. Saddam didn't have that consent; his regime was not a sovereign nation. What is being established now will be a sovereign nation, much more so than Saddam's regime ever was.
Posted by Robert Crawford  2004-08-31 9:54:47 PM|| [http://www.kloognome.com/]  2004-08-31 9:54:47 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 RC, you too are reaching above your level, and FYI borders defining sovereignty are engraved in soil by the blood of those who fought for it.
Posted by UFO 2004-08-31 10:06:36 PM|| [http://politicsandcurrentevents.com]  2004-08-31 10:06:36 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 RC, you too are reaching above your level

Well, I guess we're all "beneath" you -- you're sooooo damned superior, why, your statements don't need to be supported by arguments or facts. Since you said it, why, it just must be true!

borders defining sovereignty are engraved in soil by the blood of those who fought for it.

I believe this was originally called Blut and Boden. I'll have to reassess my estimate of your political alignment; you're not a left-wing kook, you're a right-wing kook.

I should have twigged to that based on the Israel line, but it's harder and harder to tell anymore.
Posted by Robert Crawford  2004-08-31 10:15:07 PM|| [http://www.kloognome.com/]  2004-08-31 10:15:07 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 Relax RC, I'm none of the above and don't use anyone's language but my own, just don't try to match wits with someone way above your class because you don't have any. :-)
Posted by UFO 2004-08-31 10:27:24 PM|| [http://politicsandcurrentevents.com]  2004-08-31 10:27:24 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 Magnificent Delusions. Wow!
Posted by .com 2004-08-31 10:29:42 PM||   2004-08-31 10:29:42 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 "Magnificent Delusions. Wow!"

They certainly are, and they are well preserved by the censorship on this board. :-)
Posted by UFO 2004-08-31 10:41:44 PM|| [http://politicsandcurrentevents.com]  2004-08-31 10:41:44 PM|| Front Page Top

#15 OK, give me an example of a sovereign country, will you?

Does a country that attacked another sovereign country, got beaten, signed a ceasefire under conditions it broke a hundred times ever after, qualify?

Where does sovereignty end? In mass graves?
Posted by True German Ally 2004-08-31 10:46:01 PM||   2004-08-31 10:46:01 PM|| Front Page Top

#16 I'm none of the above and don't use anyone's language but my own, just don't try to match wits with someone way above your class because you don't have any.

What was that earlier about "don't try to take issues to a personal level"? I guess it doesn't apply to Your Magnificence, eh?

Still not trying to provide facts or arguments to support your positions, though. Just unsupported assertions.
Posted by Robert Crawford  2004-08-31 10:47:10 PM|| [http://www.kloognome.com/]  2004-08-31 10:47:10 PM|| Front Page Top

#17 It's not censorship. You're just the latest fool to come along and make the inane and unsubstantiated assumption that you're intelligent, well-informed, principled, and oh so fucking superior. In your dreams, fuckwit. You have no substance, no message, no basis for your goofy blather. Were it not for many of us, you wouldn't have the right to make such a fool of yourself. Get a grip and do your onanistic sputtering in private. When you grow up, then lurk. When you've lurked long enough to hear a popping sound (your head coming out of your ass), then you can post something. Make it pithy and worthy. Jacking off in public is just stupid, boy.
Posted by .com 2004-08-31 10:47:50 PM||   2004-08-31 10:47:50 PM|| Front Page Top

#18 
They certainly are, and they are well preserved by the censorship on this board.

Sounds like our Jew-hating friend from a while ago is back. Still confused about "censorship", and utterly uncomprehending of the idea of "private property".
Posted by Robert Crawford  2004-08-31 10:48:28 PM|| [http://www.kloognome.com/]  2004-08-31 10:48:28 PM|| Front Page Top

#19 I hope they brought towels to wipe up all the drooling they are doing over the oil.....
Posted by CrazyFool  2004-08-31 10:50:04 PM||   2004-08-31 10:50:04 PM|| Front Page Top

#20 ZF:Or better still, move to a more "humanitarian" country where your taxes will be better spent - like Canada or Sweden.

Sweden has better looking wimmin :) Let him go there.

UFO: the censorship on this board

You mean the [censored] has been [censored] what I been posting [censored] since [censored] my [censored] [censored] [censored]!!!
Posted by Rafael 2004-08-31 10:50:45 PM||   2004-08-31 10:50:45 PM|| Front Page Top

#21 (And let me say, if I'm wrong and you're NOT the same guy who bothered this site a few months ago, I apologize. However, you have a curiously similar list of whinges:

o Israel

o "Censorship"

o Your assumed superiority
Posted by Robert Crawford  2004-08-31 10:51:28 PM|| [http://www.kloognome.com/]  2004-08-31 10:51:28 PM|| Front Page Top

#22 damn, troll-whoring, and I missed it!
Posted by Frank G  2004-08-31 11:05:45 PM||   2004-08-31 11:05:45 PM|| Front Page Top

#23 What a snake pit! I leave for a few minutes and the vipers crawl out spitting their venom! None of you could survive a real discussion in an open forum, instead you hide here behind censorship reflected by Fred's 'truth trap'.
Posted by UFO 2004-08-31 11:27:53 PM|| [http://politicsandcurrentevents.com]  2004-08-31 11:27:53 PM|| Front Page Top

#24 I challenge you. Time and place?
Posted by True German Ally 2004-08-31 11:29:29 PM||   2004-08-31 11:29:29 PM|| Front Page Top

#25 You're not in it, are you? Such a fucking coward and prtender.
Posted by .com 2004-08-31 11:29:45 PM||   2004-08-31 11:29:45 PM|| Front Page Top

#26 Saucer-boy, I've asked you to support your assertions. I've asked you multiple times. Instead all you've posted is mindless whining about "censorship" -- despite all your posts still being here -- and insults.

If you want a "real discussion", put an argument forward. So far, you haven't.
Posted by Robert Crawford  2004-08-31 11:35:40 PM|| [http://www.kloognome.com/]  2004-08-31 11:35:40 PM|| Front Page Top

#27 NB -- there are no posts in the sink trap.
Posted by Robert Crawford  2004-08-31 11:37:15 PM|| [http://www.kloognome.com/]  2004-08-31 11:37:15 PM|| Front Page Top

#28 TGA, challenge? If duels were legal you'd wear diapers! Look, just keep polluting this forum as long as Fred is willing to clean up after you.

Really .com, you reveal the size of your brain with that dot. :-)

OK class, if you see another one of my posts show some respect or I'll have you stand in the corner. :-)
Posted by UFO 2004-08-31 11:45:30 PM|| [http://politicsandcurrentevents.com]  2004-08-31 11:45:30 PM|| Front Page Top

#29 Name an open forum of your choice, and a time.
Put up or shut up.
Posted by True German Ally 2004-08-31 11:56:30 PM||   2004-08-31 11:56:30 PM|| Front Page Top

#30 UFO - you've exposed yourself for the weak-ass troll you are - people who's opinions I've come to respect have shown that true. Bite my ass and be gone to the DU hell that spawned you!

and have a nice day :-)
Posted by Frank G  2004-09-01 12:01:48 AM||   2004-09-01 12:01:48 AM|| Front Page Top

#31 UFO = Uninteresting Fucknozzle Orating
Posted by Chris W.  2004-09-01 12:02:52 AM||   2004-09-01 12:02:52 AM|| Front Page Top

#32 Come now TGA, what else could you possibly say than you already have, and who do you think would care to listen to your nonsense? All of you, if you want me to grace you with my presence please show some respect.
Posted by UFO 2004-09-01 12:06:22 AM|| [http://politicsandcurrentevents.com]  2004-09-01 12:06:22 AM|| Front Page Top

#33 respect my ass
Posted by Frank G  2004-09-01 12:09:52 AM||   2004-09-01 12:09:52 AM|| Front Page Top

#34 TGA's been here, done that, you're a pipsqueek with little to offer, but I'm sure you knew that, troll?
Posted by Frank G  2004-09-01 12:13:16 AM||   2004-09-01 12:13:16 AM|| Front Page Top

#35 Well I challenge you to an open debate with me the third time.

Three strikes and you are out.
Posted by True German Ally 2004-09-01 12:13:50 AM||   2004-09-01 12:13:50 AM|| Front Page Top

#36 This whole thing is some goofy self-sacrificial "Don't throw me in the briar patch!" game. Wotta dipshit. He wants it so bad, sure, fine, save the bandwidth. He's no fun, anyway. Fuckwit. No, wait, I like Chris W's def better.

Posted by .com 2004-09-01 12:15:23 AM||   2004-09-01 12:15:23 AM|| Front Page Top

#37 UFO. I'm a poor, devout muslim, working to put myself through med school. It has been very hard. Americans don't like brown skined people. But I can tell your different. Thanks for all your support. Don't let the meanies scare you. After awhile you'll be understood and everything will be OK. True thought will always win over those who listen. LISTEN Rbrs. UFO has been there and done that. Can't you understand, for gods sakes!
Posted by Lucky 2004-09-01 12:16:22 AM||   2004-09-01 12:16:22 AM|| Front Page Top

#38 Lol! Only Lucky could pull that off! *salute*
Posted by .com 2004-09-01 12:17:28 AM||   2004-09-01 12:17:28 AM|| Front Page Top

#39 "respect my ass"

Why FG, is it tight? I'm not into that, but I will respectfully reply to anyone who doesn't resort to personal attacks.
Posted by UFO 2004-09-01 12:22:52 AM|| [http://politicsandcurrentevents.com]  2004-09-01 12:22:52 AM|| Front Page Top

#40 Well there goes my cover Dot.)
Posted by Lucky 2004-09-01 12:35:15 AM||   2004-09-01 12:35:15 AM|| Front Page Top

#41 Unlike Adlai Stevenson I won't wait for the answer until hell freezes over.

Remember to clear browser history and cache before you leave. Not sure if Dad likes you playing around with his computer.

Don't let that door hit you in your back on your way out.
Posted by True German Ally 2004-09-01 12:36:05 AM||   2004-09-01 12:36:05 AM|| Front Page Top

#42 UFO, what profit do you bring forth as a causes?
Posted by Lucky 2004-09-01 12:41:02 AM||   2004-09-01 12:41:02 AM|| Front Page Top

#43 "UFO, what profit do you bring forth as a causes?"

Lucky, my taxes support Israel and my fellow Americans spill their blood for her Zionist goals. Are you asking for more?
Posted by UFO 2004-09-01 12:50:36 AM|| [http://politicsandcurrentevents.com]  2004-09-01 12:50:36 AM|| Front Page Top

#44 UFO,

There are those on Rantburg such as Oldspook, Atomic Conspiracy and True German Ally who have looked the devil in the eyes and survived to pass on their wisdom. Of these, none has experienced the evil he has seen, survived and become the better man than TGA is. He is your better and worthy of your, and all our, respect. Debate him on points of fact and present your arguments in logical and persuasive order, much as you would with a respected uncle or grandfather.

You may be new to this forum, and ignorant of our ways and people. But now, consider yourself educated. Show that you are a class act.
Posted by ed 2004-09-01 12:55:42 AM||   2004-09-01 12:55:42 AM|| Front Page Top

#45 "...Show that you are a class act."

OK ed I'll play, just don't any of you bite before I get my rabies shots. :-)
Posted by UFO 2004-09-01 1:04:34 AM|| [http://politicsandcurrentevents.com]  2004-09-01 1:04:34 AM|| Front Page Top

#46 Way to go UFO, you did it. A slam dunk. I'm with you now, whatever that is. It's kill bill, right?

Just don't let us down, man!
Posted by Lucky 2004-09-01 1:12:05 AM||   2004-09-01 1:12:05 AM|| Front Page Top

#47 Thanks for the welcome Lucky, but it's late dinner time for me and then bedtime, so I'll see you all in the morning unless I get banned. :-)
Posted by UFO 2004-09-01 1:22:37 AM|| [http://politicsandcurrentevents.com]  2004-09-01 1:22:37 AM|| Front Page Top

#48 Lol! LOLOLOL!
Posted by .com 2004-09-01 1:25:34 AM||   2004-09-01 1:25:34 AM|| Front Page Top

#49 UFO:BTW, sovereignty is defined by international borders, not by the regime within.
UFO, those folks over at Websters are probably beneath you also. However, they define sovereignty thus: one that exercises supreme authority within a limited sphere. The one (the sovereign), in this case, was Saddam and the boundries were already established when he murdered his way in to control. It's true that on two occasions he tried, unsuccessfully, to expand that limited sphere. But the sovereign of Iraq was Saddam.
Posted by GK 2004-09-01 1:33:18 AM||   2004-09-01 1:33:18 AM|| Front Page Top

#50 Damn, too late. UFO has gone beddy bye.
Posted by GK 2004-09-01 1:35:03 AM||   2004-09-01 1:35:03 AM|| Front Page Top

#51 Just do a WHOIS on his link :-)
Posted by True German Ally 2004-09-01 1:43:32 AM||   2004-09-01 1:43:32 AM|| Front Page Top

#52 OK, don't bother, it's our good friend Boris, the Serbian troll...
Posted by True German Ally 2004-09-01 1:47:30 AM||   2004-09-01 1:47:30 AM|| Front Page Top

#53 Never said shit did he? The twins had more substance tonight than UFO.

UFO, not me only, but this is a place that likes to have at it. Bring your 'A' game or just play along. It's ok, man! Come back soon!
Posted by Lucky 2004-09-01 1:50:55 AM||   2004-09-01 1:50:55 AM|| Front Page Top

#54 Mike did you seem him? A Serbian Lop Earred thought to be extinct.
Posted by Shipman 2004-09-01 7:21:27 AM||   2004-09-01 7:21:27 AM|| Front Page Top

#55 Well we should have thought of this earlier. Do a WHOIS on his link and guess who comes up?

(DRUM ROLL)

Boris Pribich

You see, UFOs are only UFOs until they are identified. Now the only thing left is a FO.
Posted by True German Ally 2004-09-01 1:40:58 AM||   2004-09-01 1:40:58 AM|| Front Page Top

#56 Well we should have thought of this earlier. Do a WHOIS on his link and guess who comes up?

(DRUM ROLL)

Boris Pribich

You see, UFOs are only UFOs until they are identified. Now the only thing left is a FO.
Posted by True German Ally 2004-09-01 1:40:58 AM||   2004-09-01 1:40:58 AM|| Front Page Top

#57 Well we should have thought of this earlier. Do a WHOIS on his link and guess who comes up?

(DRUM ROLL)

Boris Pribich

You see, UFOs are only UFOs until they are identified. Now the only thing left is a FO.
Posted by True German Ally 2004-09-01 1:42:05 AM||   2004-09-01 1:42:05 AM|| Front Page Top

#58 Well we should have thought of this earlier. Do a WHOIS on his link and guess who comes up?

(DRUM ROLL)

Boris Pribich

You see, UFOs are only UFOs until they are identified. Now the only thing left is a FO.
Posted by True German Ally 2004-09-01 1:42:05 AM||   2004-09-01 1:42:05 AM|| Front Page Top

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