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2004-08-20 Home Front: Politix

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Posted by Steve 2004-08-20 10:08:17 AM|| || Front Page|| [11130 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Evidence? Lets see your evidence! Why dont you open up your military record and show us the evidence Senator? You only have to fill out one form!

Funny how, to liberals, 1st admendment rights only apply to liberals.

Posted by CrazyFool 2004-08-20 10:18:59 AM|| 2004-08-20 10:18:59 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 After the Dems ban the book, they can blame Ashcroft for banning this book.

Posted by mhw 2004-08-20 10:27:01 AM|| 2004-08-20 10:27:01 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 Dumb move on their part. Let's hear Regency now say, "So? Sue us."

The disclosure process is a bitch.

Posted by growler 2004-08-20 10:28:54 AM|| 2004-08-20 10:28:54 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 Hmm.... Can the discovery process open Kerry's records?

Posted by CrazyFool 2004-08-20 10:29:59 AM|| 2004-08-20 10:29:59 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 'No publisher should want to be selling books with proven falsehoods in them,' Kerry campaign spokesman Chad Clanton tells the online mag

All those trees killed for Mike al-Moore... all for naught.

Posted by BH 2004-08-20 10:31:01 AM|| 2004-08-20 10:31:01 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 Man oh man, the arrogance of the Left is just breathtaking. I hope the publisher answers this demand with a hearty-- and public-- "Fuck you!" to the Kerrycrats.

You know what really pisses me off? It's the persistent stereotype of conservatives as repressive totalitarians constantly seeking to deprive people of their civil liberties-- when it is the Left which demonstrates again and again that it, not the right, has no respect for our freedoms.

I apologize to all, for having once been a Democrat. What the hell could I have been thinking...

Posted by Dave D. 2004-08-20 10:32:00 AM|| 2004-08-20 10:32:00 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 It's ok Dave. Being a Democrat isn't a crime. Pandering to the liberal, communist, totalitarian, hypocritical, but try to pass themselves off as mainstream American democrats is.

Posted by mmurray821 2004-08-20 10:40:06 AM|| 2004-08-20 10:40:06 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 Foolish move by desperate people! Smell the fear?

Posted by Frank G 2004-08-20 10:43:50 AM|| 2004-08-20 10:43:50 AM|| Front Page Top

#9 Truman/JFK/Scoop Jackson Democrats should be proud of their party heritage. But the party of Mikey and Howie and Jimmah has nothing in common with this heritage.

Time for a truly centrist party that's serious about national security, committed to free trade and low deficits, and not in thrall to our own home-grown religious wackos.

Start a new centrist party that appeals to the millions of disgusted moderates in both these corrupt, incompetent parties. A pox on both parties. Neither Mikey nor Mel. Spread the word!

Posted by lex 2004-08-20 10:45:58 AM|| 2004-08-20 10:45:58 AM|| Front Page Top

#10 Its very carefully worded. They aren't calling for the book to be banned, just sort of calling for the publisher to stop publishing the book (which is #3 on NY Times bestseller list) without providing any evidence that its full of lies.

If Kerry was serious he should sue, but I don't think he has a case so he's making these half-threats and trying to peer pressure the publisher into silencing itself for him.

Pathetic.

Posted by Yank 2004-08-20 10:48:52 AM|| [http://politicaljunky.blogspot.com] 2004-08-20 10:48:52 AM|| Front Page Top

#11 "Me thinks he doth protest to much"

-William Shakespeare

Posted by TomAnon 2004-08-20 10:51:16 AM|| 2004-08-20 10:51:16 AM|| Front Page Top

#12 Its simple: ALl Kerry needs to do to silence this is to do what Bush did: Sign the form and release his records.

Funny how the press hounded Bush about this until he did it, but it is not doing anything at all about Kerry.

There's your Prima Facia proof of bias - substitute "Bush" for "Kerry", and the NY Times would be all over this.

Posted by OldSpook 2004-08-20 10:55:05 AM|| 2004-08-20 10:55:05 AM|| Front Page Top

#13 'No publisher should want to be selling books with proven falsehoods in them,' Kerry campaign spokesman Chad Clanton tells the online mag...

This all so stupid, just like the efforts to get Fat Ass Moore's stupid crockumentary booted from various theaters.

If there are "falsehoods" in the book, then PROVE THEM WRONG. If they can't be proven wrong, then shut your damn trap and take it like a man, you little wussy.

Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2004-08-20 10:55:54 AM|| 2004-08-20 10:55:54 AM|| Front Page Top

#14 And I don't support McCain, the pompous flake who brought us this disastrous, absurd non-reform called McCain-Feingold. Wipe the slate clean.

Organize at the grass roots. Sweep the religious nuts and the trial lawyer/public employee idiots out of local and state office and build up a national movement with new blood.

The most fertile territory lies in the huge states that are considered write-offs by each party: appeal to California and NY Republicans and Texas Democrats. And then sweep the libertarian votes in the mountain states, the northeast and the Pacific northwest.

The final part of the equation is to bring into our political process the most rapidly-growing, and most consistently misunderstood or ignored, groups in US society: latino and Asian immigrants. These types don't give a shit about the religious right's agenda, but they also hate protectionism and could not care less about our relations with Europe. By talking up free trade and expanded immigration (for anyone with a college degree), and by shifting the foreign policy focus to the Pacific Rim and Asia generally, we could attract enough latino and Asian voters to tip the balance across Calif, Texas, NY, AZ, CO, NM and perhaps Florida and as well.

Anyway, it's far better than the current miserable choice. A plague on both your houses

Posted by lex 2004-08-20 10:56:20 AM|| 2004-08-20 10:56:20 AM|| Front Page Top

#15 Yes just ban the book, make it disappear. Sort of like his great novel from 1971 The New Soldier. This is becoming more worrisome because now we have the entire liberal press and media backing this shit from Senator Horseface and his Dimwits..

Posted by Bill Nelson 2004-08-20 10:58:02 AM|| 2004-08-20 10:58:02 AM|| Front Page Top

#16 I'm w/ya lex. However, I'd put a hold on any immigration until we fix that big hole on our own southern border.

Posted by Jarhead 2004-08-20 11:08:02 AM|| 2004-08-20 11:08:02 AM|| Front Page Top

#17 The sales on UNFIT for Command is going to soar over this supposed ban threat. I wish I could get PR like what Kerry and his idiots are giving this cause.

The name of the marketing game is BUZZ, good or bad, so thanks Kerry losers.

Posted by Capt America 2004-08-20 11:22:20 AM|| [http://captamerica.blogspot.com/] 2004-08-20 11:22:20 AM|| Front Page Top

#18 Easily solved, Jarhead. Limit immigration to anyone with a college degree. Bring on the Asians; keep Mexicans at current level.

Key point here is to get back to a core idea that once upon a time was dear to both parties: ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY. And advance a new idea that neither party seems to grasp: ASIAN CENTURY. The Atlantic Alliance is dead, has been for 13 years. Focus intensely on China India Turkey Russia. Quit wasting so much precious bandwidth on can't-help, can't-hurt Eurabians.

To help move the dime on this, we should encourage as many as possible of our talented young Asian-Americans to go into State and CIA and other Exec agencies and replace the corrupt old Euro-centric and Arabist hacks clogging those agencies.

NEW OPPORTUNITY PARTY - Spread the word

Posted by lex 2004-08-20 11:23:13 AM|| 2004-08-20 11:23:13 AM|| Front Page Top

#19 Conversations with a Leftist, #46:

"Now they're banning books! Censorship! More crushing of dissent in John AshKKKroft's AmeriKKKa! We don't have a democracy any more! It's that Patriot Act, I tells ya--"

"But, uh, this is John Kerry's campaign trying to get books banned. John Ashcroft gots nothin' to do with it."

"Oh, oh, why didn't you say so in the first place. John Kerry, he's one of the good guys, so if he wants a book banned, I'm down with it."

Posted by Mike 2004-08-20 11:34:21 AM|| 2004-08-20 11:34:21 AM|| Front Page Top

#20 Hi everybody. Been gone awhile . . .

Re: Kerry--for whoever's interested: I'm not on an election rampage, I'm not slinging rhetoric or insults, and I'm not exaggerating, and maybe everyone already has noticed this, but --

Kerry sounds a lot like Adolf Hitler. Seriously. It's a bit surprising, but if you compare sound clips/speech modalities/delivery, there is a most startling similarity in approach and psychological motivation. He's a dangerous man--and again, I'm not being emotional. It's a rational observation.

Of course, his censorship tactic is just one more outward proof of his totalitarian leanings. Kerry wants to win the presidency to prove to himself (and "the world") that HE is IMPORTANT, as an individual. His campaign has nothing to do with public service, leading the free world, or our national priorities.

Posted by ex-lib 2004-08-20 12:07:52 PM|| 2004-08-20 12:07:52 PM|| Front Page Top

#21 My copy of "Unfit for Command" shipped from Amazon today. Yippie!

Posted by Chris W. 2004-08-20 12:10:30 PM|| 2004-08-20 12:10:30 PM|| Front Page Top

#22 'No publisher should want to be selling books with proven falsehoods in them,'....
So "Tour of Duty" gets yanked? Or is the First Amendment only for Liberals and their ilk?

Posted by GK 2004-08-20 12:14:34 PM|| 2004-08-20 12:14:34 PM|| Front Page Top

#23 'No publisher should want to be selling books with proven falsehoods in them,'....

There goes Stupid White Men, I guess.

Posted by Mike 2004-08-20 12:35:06 PM|| 2004-08-20 12:35:06 PM|| Front Page Top

#24 Well let's see the Dim strategy so far
1) Sue TV stations that show the Swifty ads
2) Ban the book
3) Blame Bush
4) Not denounce their own 527's (wink wink ok guys I'm running out of money time for an infusion)
5) Get Chris Matthews to work harder
6) Mass publish the Brown books
7)mmm I guess someone will rush to press something like Bush visited a massage parlor in (pick a date whatever).

Posted by Bill Nelson 2004-08-20 12:41:49 PM|| 2004-08-20 12:41:49 PM|| Front Page Top

#25 Hell, I FULLY support the Democrats in their effort. Then again so does the publisher. I just ordered my copy yesterday. I'm sure many others will be soon too. Way to go Dems push it straight to the top of the best seller list!

Posted by 98zulu 2004-08-20 1:52:20 PM|| 2004-08-20 1:52:20 PM|| Front Page Top

#26 ex-lib:

Dunno about his speaking style, but let's look at some other things...

o Relatively low-rank in a war that ended with a bitter nation feeling betrayed.

o Highly decorated, though no one's ever claimed Hitler didn't earn his.

o Sends out thugs to disrupt meetings of competing politicians. Kerry's got people out trying to keep Nader off the ballot, and has a swarm of thugs threatening violence at the RNC.

Now, he's no Hitler -- I don't think he's a monster -- but he's a thug. I don't want a thug in the White House.

In a related bit, Roger Simon's a bit worried about what might happen to bloggers who have been pushing this story. I think he's right to be worried; if the Donks are willing to send thugs out to intimidate Nader petitioners, what will they do to try to shut up the Swift Vet story? If the "unassociated radicals" (conveniently funded by the same loons that fund the Donks themselves) are ready to commit violence at the RNC, what will they do if Kerry loses?

Posted by Robert Crawford 2004-08-20 2:09:12 PM|| [http://www.kloognome.com] 2004-08-20 2:09:12 PM|| Front Page Top

#27 what will they do if Kerry loses?

Hopefully they'll move to France or Canada...

Posted by Raj 2004-08-20 2:18:38 PM|| 2004-08-20 2:18:38 PM|| Front Page Top

#28 I just heard the funniest (and truest) line about Skeery yet: He's like a blind date that turns out very badly.

Lol! Perfect. More bad baggage than O'Hare.

Posted by .com 2004-08-20 2:21:53 PM|| 2004-08-20 2:21:53 PM|| Front Page Top

#29 Highly decorated, though no one's ever claimed Hitler didn't earn his.

Historical note, and someone please fill in the blanks if my information is wrong:

Wasn't Hitler a communications runner for an infantry unit, a fella who either ran messgaes between commanders or who dispatched runners?

My understanding of this task was it was a terribly dangerous task especially when an enemy is manuevering to attack. All your other comrades in arms were relatively safe hugging the ground, but there you are running with a message an enemy commander would give his left arm to read, a high priority target if ever there was one in WWI.

Posted by badanov 2004-08-20 2:25:32 PM|| [http://www.rkka.org] 2004-08-20 2:25:32 PM|| Front Page Top

#30 My understanding of this task was it was a terribly dangerous task especially when an enemy is manuevering to attack

badnov...at least that's how Hitler spun it :-) For all we know he was a coffee boy.

Posted by B 2004-08-20 2:33:22 PM|| 2004-08-20 2:33:22 PM|| Front Page Top

#31 Actually, on second thought, that's kind of interesting. Kerry's duty was very dangerous as well. Maybe there's something in narcissists that makes them feel emboldened and entitled by actually being forced to risk their lives....

or maybe they just get lots of mileage out of the respect that comes from having been in that situation. Respect they capitalize on over, and over and over again.

Posted by B 2004-08-20 2:37:03 PM|| 2004-08-20 2:37:03 PM|| Front Page Top

#32 Has anyone gotten a comment from Howard Dean? I'm sure he's terribly disappointed with this tactic, given his accusation during the convention that the Republicans were planning to burn books.

Posted by eLarson 2004-08-20 2:41:24 PM|| [http://larsonian.blogspot.com] 2004-08-20 2:41:24 PM|| Front Page Top

#33 TomAnon. The Bard really knew how to cut to the bone.

lex, I'm not for religious wackos either. No grape cool-aid for me but could you put a name to the wackos you refer to. I know Pat Robertson is a posterboi on that subject but I think he's not really much of a problem. I do remember McCain banging his head against the religious right in his run for prez. It was his undoing and exposed him to me as unfit for the post.

Posted by Lucky 2004-08-20 2:49:25 PM|| 2004-08-20 2:49:25 PM|| Front Page Top

#34 The final part of the equation is to bring into our political process the most rapidly-growing, and most consistently misunderstood or ignored, groups in US society: latino and Asian immigrants.

The only reason that Latino numbers are considered to be rapidly growing is because a ton of them slink across the southern border every damn day, and the illegal aspect of their presence is either ignored, buried, or whitewashed (think of the term "undocumented"). Once past the border area, where they would be immediately sent back if caught, they have little fear of being discovered, least of all deported. They end up having multiple kids on American soil -- who are now conveniently American citizens -- and voila! Growth in the numbers of Latinos! And as these kids grow up, the multiculturalists keep stressing that foreign culture is a virtue, American culture sucks to high heaven, and it isn't difficult to see in which direction this is heading.

Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2004-08-20 2:56:27 PM|| 2004-08-20 2:56:27 PM|| Front Page Top

#35 Amazon.com claims that it will take them 5-7 weeks to get a copy of "Unfit for Command" out...What's up with that?
(Barnes and Noble, where it's also at #1, says it's immediately available.)
Are they just that overwhelmed with buyers--it's been at Number One for 2 weeks--or have the Kerry people gotten to Regnery Publishing or what?

Posted by GreatestJeneration 2004-08-20 3:05:15 PM|| [http://www.greatestjeneration.com] 2004-08-20 3:05:15 PM|| Front Page Top

#36 Wasn't Hitler a communications runner for an infantry unit, a fella who either ran messgaes between commanders or who dispatched runners?

I'm reading "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich" right now, and I think that's right. I can't remember what exactly he got his Iron Cross for, but I do know when the war ended he was in the hospital recovering from a gas attack.

Jen -- They were overwhelmed with orders. When I ordered mine, there was no mention of a wait; once it was published, they must have run out quick.

NB -- I believe the royalties are going into airing the ads. Heh.

Posted by Robert Crawford 2004-08-20 3:18:19 PM|| [http://www.kloognome.com] 2004-08-20 3:18:19 PM|| Front Page Top

#37 Actually, on second thought, that's kind of interesting. Kerry's duty was very dangerous as well. Maybe there's something in narcissists that makes them feel emboldened and entitled by actually being forced to risk their lives.... or maybe they just get lots of mileage out of the respect that comes from having been in that situation. Respect they capitalize on over, and over and over again.

Actually, Hitler during the war constantly referred to his experiences in WWI to his generals. Some staff officers in memoirs scoffed at his referring to his experiences as partucularly relevent to the situation. For instance, when commanders during the Soviet Counteroffensive protested the stand fast orders because the ground was so cold and iron-hard ( to use the actual term written by Col Seaton ) and riflemen could not even dig in, Hitler chimed in with the remark soldiers should use artillery or hand grenades to open the ground, ignoring the fact that a grenade was more likely to give a unit's position away to Soviet sound ranging parties than to dig anything deeper than a golf divot in the ground.

All this illutrates that Hitler, like Kerry, took lessons from his combat exoeriences, all of which were irrelevent to the current situation.

Disclaimer: Not saying Kerry eq Hilter. Just saying in regards to their respective combat experiences these men semed to have taken their experiences and misapplied them in their lives. Maybe a personality disorder. WHo knows?

Posted by badanov 2004-08-20 3:20:32 PM|| [http://www.rkka.org] 2004-08-20 3:20:32 PM|| Front Page Top

#38 ex-lib: Kerry--for whoever's interested: I'm not on an election rampage, I'm not slinging rhetoric or insults, and I'm not exaggerating, and maybe everyone already has noticed this, but -- Kerry sounds a lot like Adolf Hitler. Seriously. It's a bit surprising, but if you compare sound clips/speech modalities/delivery, there is a most startling similarity in approach and psychological motivation. He's a dangerous man--and again, I'm not being emotional.

I think the Hitler comparison is stretched. Way stretched. Hitler was a magnetic speaker, with the best facets of both Clinton and Reagan combined, and then some. Hitler was a bona fide war hero. Kerry is neither of these. Hitler was in paramilitary organizations that kidnapped and tortured to death thousands of his opponents. Finally, Hitler wrote Mein Kampf, advocating a Final Solution, way before he became chancellor. Kerry is no Hitler, from the standpoint of outstanding personal characteristics or the standpoint of his evil intentions. (Note that the bad guys are generally extremely brave - no one can say that the 8 million Germans or the 1.2m Japanese who died in WWII were cowards). Here's a chronology of Hitler's war service:

Feb 14 Screened for Austrian Military Service; Found Unfit
Aug 14 Hitler petitions to serve in Bavarian forces despite Austrian Citizenship
16 Aug 14 Hitler volunteers for 16th Bavarian Reserve Infantry Regiment, also known as the List Regiment after its commander
8 Oct 14 Hitler takes oath to King Ludwig III of Bavaria
29 Oct 14 Sees first action 5 miles east of Ypres
Nov 14 Unit near Messines; Assigned war-long role as headquarters messenger
Dec 14 Awarded Iron Cross 2nd Class; Refuses to participate in Christmas Truce
1915 Hitler promoted to Lance Corporal; participates in several actions in Artois Sector
7 Oct 16 Wounded in leg at the Somme; Hitler then spends two months at military hospital in Beelitz near Berlin
Early 17 On light duty after being wounded
1 Mar 17 Returns to Regiment at Front in Picardy
Summer 17 List Regiment returns to Ypres Salient
31 July 17 Battle of Passchendaele begins
Fall 17 Regiment rested in Alsace
Late 17/Early 18 Regiment sent to Oise/Aisne Sector
Mar 18 Operating near Montdidier
Aug 18 Awarded Iron Cross 1st Class for service since 1914 as messenger
28 Sep 18 Incident involving Henry Tandy, VC
Article
Oct 18 Regiment back in Ypres Sector
13 Oct 18 Gassed and temporarily blinded near Wervicq
Oct 18 Recovering his sight at Pasewalk, Germany, Hitler witnesses naval mutineers
11 Nov 18 At news of armistice; Hitler reacts bitterly

Posted by Zhang Fei 2004-08-20 3:23:23 PM|| [http://www.polipundit.com] 2004-08-20 3:23:23 PM|| Front Page Top

#39 The Kerry and Hitler comparisons are overstretched - way overstretched. Hitler was a politician of rare ability who managed to rally a nation that had been defeated (in WWI) with millions of dead into another war (WWII) where they lost another 10 million dead. The victors of WWI (Britain, France and the US) were so scarred by the experience that they shrank from a defensive war until it was too late. But Hitler managed to get Germany behind him to reach for one last throw of the dice. Kerry can't even get liberals firmly behind him, never mind America.

Posted by Zhang Fei 2004-08-20 3:30:34 PM|| [http://www.polipundit.com] 2004-08-20 3:30:34 PM|| Front Page Top

#40 #35 - Jen: Are they just that overwhelmed with buyers--it's been at Number One for 2 weeks--or have the Kerry people gotten to Regnery Publishing or what?

Let not your heart be troubled, Jen. I don't think there's any way possible Regnery will cave. I would bank on "overwhelmed/trying to get product". Same thing happened with Hugh Hewitt's book a month or so ago. A great book, by the way. Buy one for the Undecided or Protest Voter in your life.

Posted by eLarson 2004-08-20 3:36:15 PM|| [http://larsonian.blogspot.com] 2004-08-20 3:36:15 PM|| Front Page Top

#41 The Kerry and Hitler comparisons are overstretched - way overstretched. Hitler was a politician of rare ability who managed to rally a nation that had been defeated (in WWI) with millions of dead into another war (WWII) where they lost another 10 million dead. The victors of WWI (Britain, France and the US) were so scarred by the experience that they shrank from a defensive war until it was too late. But Hitler managed to get Germany behind him to reach for one last throw of the dice. Kerry can't even get liberals firmly behind him, never mind America.

Lesson learned. Thanks, Zhang Fei.

Will there be a quiz on this later?

Posted by badanov 2004-08-20 3:42:20 PM|| [http://www.rkka.org] 2004-08-20 3:42:20 PM|| Front Page Top

#42 I agree with eLarson. There is no way anybody would stop publishing a runaway bestseller like that. Especially not in a market that supports plenty of, um, "questionable" I Hate Bushâ¢ ~~novels~~ books currently on the shelves. Michael Moore, anyone? Stuart Smalley? Richard Clarke? etc etc

Posted by Chris W. 2004-08-20 3:42:58 PM|| 2004-08-20 3:42:58 PM|| Front Page Top

#43 badanov: Lesson learned. Thanks, Zhang Fei. Will there be a quiz on this later?

My point was that Hitler was a mass murderer with outstanding personal honor, whereas Kerry is merely a lying liberal with lousy personal honor (i.e. he was a coward, lied about atrocities to smear his compatriots, et al). No similarity at all.

Posted by Zhang Fei 2004-08-20 3:52:59 PM|| [http://www.polipundit.com] 2004-08-20 3:52:59 PM|| Front Page Top

#44 Zhang -- I agree; I said Kerry is no monster. He is simply a thug.

Posted by Robert Crawford 2004-08-20 5:48:30 PM|| [http://www.kloognome.com/] 2004-08-20 5:48:30 PM|| Front Page Top

#45 Oh, and about the Kerry campaign letters (and now a complaint to the FEC!) -- if Kerry had anything to do with them, even as little as saying "Yes, go ahead", he should withdraw from the race and resign from the Senate. Anyone that thin-skinned has no place in office, and anyone that intent on quashing free expression has broken his oath to uphold the Constitution.

Posted by Robert Crawford 2004-08-20 5:56:33 PM|| [http://www.kloognome.com/] 2004-08-20 5:56:33 PM|| Front Page Top

#46 Cheers, eLarson!
I've already got Hewitt's book and I have Unfit for Command on order (I pre-ordered it 3 weeks ago) and it's supposed to come between today and Tuesday.

Posted by GreatestJeneration 2004-08-20 6:13:42 PM|| [http://www.greatestjeneration.com] 2004-08-20 6:13:42 PM|| Front Page Top

#47 Robert Crawford: Hitler was pretty much a "thug" too. Thugs with an excess of personal drive often become the "monsters" of history. Time will tell, and hopefully, Kerry won't get a chance to realize his higher amibitions, whatever they may be. But working hard like he is , trying to ban books and silence dissent is not a good sign, and it isn't very American.

Next: I knew people would pitch a fit over my comparison in #20, because at first glance, I know it seems a bit over the top. But I'm not advocating a direct comparison re: life history/activities/ circumstances/accomplishments as being "the same" between them. That would be silly. And I'm not saying Kerry is an adherent of eugenics, although he might be, with his far fringe support of partial-birth abortion and abortion in general, which has direct roots in the eugenics movement of Hitler's time. I'm not saying Kerry is a "Hitler," per se.

What I am saying, is that when listening to Kerry's speeches, I found a striking similarity--something in the sound, the delivery, the base of motivation, and it freaked me out, because I certainly wasn't expecting it. You have to admit he's pretty darn commited to gaining personal political power. In a different time, a different age . . . who knows what he might have done.

Anyway, I restate that I believe Kerry wants to win the presidency to prove to himself (and "the world") that HE is IMPORTANT, as an individual, and that he "knows" how best to run the would. His campaign, and his desire to be president has nothing to do with public service, leading the free world, or our (actual and crucial) national priorities. I don't even think he's that big on supporting the aims and interests of his party. He also keeps talking about an "agenda for America" but never elaborates.

Zhang Fei: I found your assertion that Hitler was a man with "outstanding personal honor" overstretched--way overstretched. His military "accomplishments" were stepping stones toward poltical domination and the actualization of his very questionable personal needs.

Robert Crawford said: " . . . About the Kerry campaign letters (and now a complaint to the FCC!) -- if Kerry had anything to do with them, even as little as saying "Yes, go ahead", he should withdraw from the race and resign from the Senate. Anyone that thin-skinned has no place in office, and anyone that intent on quashing free expression has broken his oath to uphold the Constitution."

That is completely right-on, and I totally agree. The first thing thuggish dictators do is to quash dissent. He is a trip, to be sure.

Posted by ex-lib 2004-08-20 10:10:07 PM|| 2004-08-20 10:10:07 PM|| Front Page Top

#48 BegrÃ¼Ãen Sie der Fuehrer, Kerry! Sein Wille und Erfahrung kÃ¶nnen nicht bezweifelt werden! Lieutenant, burn these books. NOW! And these Swift Vets . . . . send them to the Gulag. Does anyone else have questions about Commander Kerry? I didnât think so.

Yikes, Bush better be careful about what he says during the debates . . .

Posted by cingold 2004-08-20 10:26:58 PM|| 2004-08-20 10:26:58 PM|| Front Page Top

#49 Remember Salman Rushdie's 'Satanic Verses'? Maybe Kerry should issue a Fatwa against the vets.

Posted by Bryan 2004-08-20 10:35:32 PM|| 2004-08-20 10:35:32 PM|| Front Page Top

#50 I am sure that the publisher did his homework, worked with his lawyers, etc etc before he pushed the Publish button. I will have to obtain a copy. Interviews that I heard so far with O'Neal point to pretty rigorious documentation and footnoting. Obviously more rigorous than a MM documentary.

Bryan---Kerry cannot issue a Fatwa, as he is a Catholic, well sort of......

Posted by Alaska Paul 2004-08-20 10:46:44 PM|| 2004-08-20 10:46:44 PM|| Front Page Top

#51 AP - Mebbe he can order a Catheter... uh, um, nevermind...

Posted by .com 2004-08-20 10:51:15 PM|| 2004-08-20 10:51:15 PM|| Front Page Top

#52 Rantburg be awfully quiet once everyone's book comes in...

Posted by Seafarious 2004-08-20 10:53:45 PM|| 2004-08-20 10:53:45 PM|| Front Page Top

#53 Maybe we can have a corner of Rantburg real estate donated by Fred. Then we can set up a WoT book club and have discussion groups and chat and a message board and book ads and.....hmmmmmm, maybe not........

Posted by Alaska Paul 2004-08-20 10:57:45 PM|| 2004-08-20 10:57:45 PM|| Front Page Top

#54 I want a Dangling Conversation. Everything here is so pithy and real. Sometimes you just hanker for some bloviation, know what I mean?

Posted by .com 2004-08-20 11:00:34 PM|| 2004-08-20 11:00:34 PM|| Front Page Top

#55 AP, I take your point.

Maybe Kerry can get Ayatolla what's-his-name to issue the Fatwa - on the grounds that the vets are American.

In exchange, Kerry will promise, if elected, to turn a blind eye to Iran's nuclear programme.

Posted by Bryan 2004-08-20 11:00:39 PM|| 2004-08-20 11:00:39 PM|| Front Page Top

#56 probably back-ordered at Amazon (I buy a bunch from them) - didn't stop me from e-ragging on them for being slackers and noting B&N had it... :-)

Posted by Frank G 2004-08-20 11:19:03 PM|| 2004-08-20 11:19:03 PM|| Front Page Top

#57 .com just wants his own corner of RB to post pix of wimmin all day...

Posted by Seafarious 2004-08-20 11:19:04 PM|| 2004-08-20 11:19:04 PM|| Front Page Top

#58 And this would be bad cuz...

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Posted by .com 2004-08-20 11:22:20 PM|| 2004-08-20 11:22:20 PM|| Front Page Top

Posted by Frank G 2004-08-20 11:35:18 PM|| 2004-08-20 11:35:18 PM|| Front Page Top

#60 ex-lib: I found your assertion that Hitler was a man with "outstanding personal honor" overstretched--way overstretched. His military "accomplishments" were stepping stones toward poltical domination and the actualization of his very questionable personal needs.

Bravery on the battlefield is bravery on the battlefield. Whether these were stepping stones or not does not detract from Hitler's accomplishments on the battlefield. Not everything is political. Bravery is bravery - even for the jihadis our boys are currently fighting. For a liberal, everything is a matter of political context. I don't think that way. If a Nazi fought to the death rather than surrender, he was a brave man. Period. Note that Hitler had no fear of death - he committed suicide rather than be paraded like a circus animal, unlike Saddam, who surrendered rather than lose his life. This is what I mean by personal honor - Hitler had loads, and Saddam had none.

Posted by Zhang Fei 2004-08-21 12:01:11 AM|| [http://www.polipundit.com] 2004-08-21 12:01:11 AM|| Front Page Top

#61 Zhang Fei.... PLEASE let me not go into that...

Posted by True German Ally 2004-08-21 12:09:08 AM|| 2004-08-21 12:09:08 AM|| Front Page Top

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