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2004-07-24 Terror Networks

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Posted by Dan Darling 2004-07-24 12:54:32 PM|| || Front Page|| [6 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Could this be an attempt to sow discord and mistrust in AlQ? Have them do a mole search? Torture and kill likely suspects (like Afghanis, Pakis and Uzbeks)? We can only hope!

Posted by Brett_the_Quarkian 2004-07-24 2:18:01 PM|| 2004-07-24 2:18:01 PM|| Front Page Top

#2 If we really do have people inside Al Qaeda them the senior intelligence official should be the "former senior intelligence official.

Posted by cheaderhead 2004-07-24 2:42:14 PM|| 2004-07-24 2:42:14 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 Keeping the "leadersip" of any terrorist-organisation or indeed any totalitarian intelligence service just a little more paranoid then is considerd healthy, usually tends to create "opportunitys for swift career-advancement" within the organisation, on the face of it I would say that this is a psy-op and the merricans have several pawns positioned for a possible break-through to the next level of Al-Q's hierarchie.

Now veering violently off topic: could someone a little more airforce-savy than me take a look at this and this and give your opinion on wether its a fake or the real thing, (its for a bet and I am betting fake)

Posted by Heisenbergmayhavebeenhere 2004-07-24 4:06:25 PM|| 2004-07-24 4:06:25 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 Scr$%^&* up the post, appologies for that, the first this in my last post should be this this.

Posted by Heisenbergmayhavebeenhere 2004-07-24 4:12:56 PM|| 2004-07-24 4:12:56 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 If it's fake, it's a damn good Photoshop effort. Don't know enough about fighters to otherwise proffer a more informed opinion, sorry.

Posted by Raj 2004-07-24 4:20:55 PM|| 2004-07-24 4:20:55 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 Seems I remember something about the first one from several years back... Took place on a carrier in the Pacific, not in the Persian Gulf or anywhere else. Apparently there was a "minor technical glitch" and part of the propellent of a Navy Sidewinder being uploaded onto an F-18(???) "spontaneously ignited" and sent the missile about 200 feet down the carrier's flank and into the Pacific ocean. IIRC, one person was injured, but no damage to aircraft or other equipment, and a bunch of Sidewinders (an entire production lot of about 200) were returned to the manufacturer with propellent cracks and some other internal problems. OF course, there's on guarantee that even the information I heard wasn't a set-up...

Posted by Old Patriot 2004-07-24 5:51:04 PM|| [http://users.codenet.net/mweather/default.htm] 2004-07-24 5:51:04 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 I believe its a fake. There should be much more flame.

http://www.nawcwpns.navy.mil/clmf/images/fa18winder1.JPG

Posted by RussSchultz 2004-07-24 5:55:41 PM|| 2004-07-24 5:55:41 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 Errant Sidewinder images ___1___ and ___2___
certainly appears the engine failed to fully ignite.
It

Posted by .com 2004-07-24 6:02:37 PM|| 2004-07-24 6:02:37 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 Oops - dupe of Heisenberg - apology.

Posted by .com 2004-07-24 6:04:16 PM|| 2004-07-24 6:04:16 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 Here's a link to let you fly the F-18 yourself, courtesy of the Aussie Air Force. Again, my abject apology for the dupe post.

Posted by .com 2004-07-24 6:34:55 PM|| 2004-07-24 6:34:55 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 Calm down folks. This is merely a polite
way of saying that they've sent operatives
to school at Ucal/Berekeley.

Posted by Brutus 2004-07-24 10:28:30 PM|| 2004-07-24 10:28:30 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 Heisenbrg-
Its a photoshop, and they ALMOST got it perfect - trouble is they left the exhaust cover on the rocket motor.

Mike

Posted by Mike Kozlowski 2004-07-25 12:01:15 AM|| 2004-07-25 12:01:15 AM|| Front Page Top

#13 Late reply, but it's real, not a photoshop. Any carrier sailor will tell you that the flight deck is a dynamic environment. In this case the Hornet successfully trapped, but the missile came off the rail at 100+ knots and just kept going.

BTW, ask a Navy guy about these tough operating environments, not one of those 10,000 foot runway Air Force types.

Posted by longtime lurker 2004-07-26 8:56:49 AM|| 2004-07-26 8:56:49 AM|| Front Page Top

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