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2004-06-29 Iraq-Jordan

Debka sez : âSaddamâs "Dirty Dozen" Will be Allawiâs Hostagesâ

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Posted by Anonymous5089 2004-06-29 3:36:50 PM|| || Front Page|| [2 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Bravo Allawi!

Posted by Mark Espinola 2004-06-29 4:11:12 PM|| 2004-06-29 4:11:12 PM|| Front Page Top

#2 someone give me water, the amount of salt this took was so massive.

Posted by Liberalhawk 2004-06-29 4:13:54 PM|| 2004-06-29 4:13:54 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 It does not make sense. Why would any Baathist want to see these guys freed ? They would just be competition for leadership. They are better off dead all around.

Posted by buwaya 2004-06-29 5:13:57 PM|| 2004-06-29 5:13:57 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 What's going on in Iraq now is savage?

I'd consider it sneaky.

Posted by Anonymous2U 2004-06-29 7:21:48 PM|| 2004-06-29 7:21:48 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 Nonsense meter pegged while reading this.

Posted by sludj 2004-06-29 7:31:53 PM|| 2004-06-29 7:31:53 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 Not entirely nonsense. You are projecting US values into an Arab culture. That doesnt work.

Politics over there is played hardball - and family style.

These guys run everything like a bunch of Mafia families. Or at least thats the closest thing we have over here. They are, if anything, even more loyal, but even more vicious when crossed or when they decide to cross. These are grudges and truces that go back over generations.

Know your target set - and this all of a sudden starts to be a bit less "nonsense".

To see an example of how this works, look at the Baathists in Syria and what happened when the supported taking Soviet citizens hostage a few deacdes ago. They quickly surrendered the Soviet nationals when fingers and ears of family members started arriving at the "terrorists" family homes.

I have no doubts the Al-Tikirit's and other families there are backing the Fedyaheen Saddam that are now operating as terrorists (and probably faking to be Islamicists). And you can safely bet that Al'lawi already has some of the other family members that have been very discreetly informed that they are regularly within the sights of Iraqi Government high powered rifles. And that such pictures have been given to the family elders, in addition to being shown to those in prison.

Given those pictures along with the message

[best mafia voice]
"It would be a real shame if something happened to President Allawi, you never know who would be giving the orders to those guys with the rifles, could be the VP, you know, the former the Kurdsih peshmurga leader..."

So you may see some changes - and if so, the foreign fighters (read IRANIANS) will be strung out - and eventually strung up by th same thugs who were helping them. And the Iraqis wouldn't bat an eye about Iranians being summarily killed - after all, there are few families that didnt lose a relative to the Iranians a couple decades ago.

So not as farfetched once you have some context.

The big thing here is how many "goodfellas" does Allawi have backing him up?

Posted by OldSpook 2004-06-29 10:08:00 PM|| 2004-06-29 10:08:00 PM|| Front Page Top

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