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2004-06-29 China-Japan-Koreas

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Posted by Laurence of the Rats 2004-06-29 8:20:56 AM|| || Front Page|| [11129 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 ..U.S. fighting power in Korea would be strengthened.

A waste of time, money, and resources.

Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2004-06-29 10:48:54 AM|| 2004-06-29 10:48:54 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 Unless we're looking to "make it look like an accident" come Nork test time?

Posted by eLarson 2004-06-29 11:22:44 AM|| 2004-06-29 11:22:44 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 Training, training, training. Sometimes things are exactly as they appear. (Then again, sometimes there really are guys in black helicopters.)

Posted by RWV 2004-06-29 1:21:38 PM|| 2004-06-29 1:21:38 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 In case you were wondering, the Customs Service guys do use black helicopters as well as MP-5s.

Posted by RWV 2004-06-29 2:04:31 PM|| 2004-06-29 2:04:31 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 If the US expected something nasty,the F-117s wouldn't be in Korea.Japan,now,that's when to worry.This is PR to show SKs we aren't abandoning them as we draw down troop levels.

Posted by Stephen 2004-06-29 2:04:36 PM|| 2004-06-29 2:04:36 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 I hope they're on their way to Korea as part of a plan to attack the North Korean nuclear sites, such as the one at YongByong, or whatever it's called. We should just call in A FLEET of B-52's & just carpet bomb the hell out of their nuclear sites and their medium/long-range missile sites...end of problem. They're successfully blackmailing us. They're making fools out of us. Other rogue states are taking notes...they're watching the manner in which we deal with North Korea. We Must make an example out of them.

Posted by Kentucky Beef 2004-06-29 2:26:42 PM|| 2004-06-29 2:26:42 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 KB: What about retaliation on metro Seoul?

Posted by Michael 2004-06-29 2:53:16 PM|| 2004-06-29 2:53:16 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 KB, we don't really have a fleet of B-52s anymore. There are something less than 100 B-52Hs left in the inventory (94 at last count). All the B-52Ds & Gs were destroyed (wings cut off among other things) as part of the START agreements. As far as bombing the NORKs, We (long, long ago on an island far, far away) used to have target folders for iron bomb sorties against North Korean targets. Rest assured there are much better ways than carpet bombing to destroy these sites and B-52s from Guam could play a part in them.

Posted by RWV 2004-06-29 3:31:21 PM|| 2004-06-29 3:31:21 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 The NORKS have most of their important Nuke assets in deep underground rooms, and I am sure that the entrances are blast hardened. They will not be the easiest nuts to crack. OldSpook, any words of wisdom on how easily any and all the entrances could be detected and neutralized? I do not know if we have the capability of directly attacking all of the underground chambers holding the goodies.

Posted by Alaska Paul 2004-06-29 4:08:10 PM|| 2004-06-29 4:08:10 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 Lobby your congress-critter for tactical nuke development / authorization .....

Posted by too true 2004-06-29 4:44:29 PM|| 2004-06-29 4:44:29 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 Don't think you need to bomb all the buried assets. The only real target in NK is Kim Jong-il. If he and all his progeny were to suddenly disappear, it would be difficult to maintain the cult of personality that is North Korea.

Posted by RWV 2004-06-29 5:37:39 PM|| 2004-06-29 5:37:39 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 I'm still not sure why they call these things fighters when all they've ever been used for is strike (i.e. bombing) missions, even in conflicts where the airspace had to be cleared of the enemy.

Posted by Zhang Fei 2004-06-29 6:16:26 PM|| [http://www.polipundit.com] 2004-06-29 6:16:26 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 ZF, they're fighters when compared to the stealth bomber, the B-2. It's a matter of size and maneuverability. These guys could carry missiles and engage in air-to-air combat, but it would be a waste. Their principal attribute is stealth. We have lots of fighters that can do air to air, but nothing else can go downtown like these guys. The unfortunate thing about them is there just aren't enough of them.

Posted by RWV 2004-06-29 9:34:42 PM|| 2004-06-29 9:34:42 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 First off size doesnt matter - radar and IR cross section and signatures do.

Secondly, look for "penetrating munitions" announcements on the internet from the US.

The hard part used to be guiding them in, exactly, and repeatedly. Now we do not have that problem thanks to the improved guidance, and the development of technology that specifically was designed to overcome this sort of fortification.

Now fill in the lines between whats public and what is real (and with military technology there is usually a pretty good gap).

Also add to that the US surveillance capabilities - to activate these sites they have to eventually produce heat signatures, and those can be detected with the side looking version of FLIR from Recon flights in the area. And my old Dragon Lady pals are probably staying very busy.

Posted by OldSpook 2004-06-29 11:15:14 PM|| 2004-06-29 11:15:14 PM|| Front Page Top

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