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2004-06-13 Arabia

Report: Manâs Body Found in Saudi Arabia

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Posted by Anonymous4617 2004-06-13 12:13:13 PM|| || Front Page|| [11133 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Rooters is reporting Saudi Police saying it wasn't a Westerner. In fact, in classic Saudi style, the question of a body of any variety being found is unclear:
"There is no truth to media reports that the body of someone of Western nationality was found in the streets of Riyadh."
-Riyadh Police Chief

Classic non-information, no?

Posted by .com 2004-06-13 12:53:48 PM|| 2004-06-13 12:53:48 PM|| Front Page Top

#2 So, did they kill this guy, whoever it was, for the publication of this video, or did Amhed just have it in his home tape collection of Friday night hijinks and they just claimed it was a westerner?

Posted by Laurence of the Rats 2004-06-13 1:01:11 PM|| [http://www.punictreachery.com/] 2004-06-13 1:01:11 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 A4617 - The killing of Robert Jacobs on Tuesday in front of his garage is also rather weird. This is the guy that they "followed home" to kill. I saw no reference in any of the stories regarding whether or not he lived within a compound - and if he did, how did they get in? I knew very very few Westerners who did not live inside a gated compound. I lived out in the shit in 92-93, but that was then - now is definitely different. Jacobs worked for a firm which has many employees and it is possible he had the status to arrange his own living arrangements, but who would choose to live outside - in the shit?

Did anyone see that little detail regards Jacobs?

Posted by .com 2004-06-13 1:22:01 PM|| 2004-06-13 1:22:01 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 .com,
From what people are saying here, it seems that he was one of those westerners who thought that these people would never turn against him. He thought that just because he went to the Camel races and other local events with them, he would be proctected. Your read right. He made his own living arrangments.
You will not believe this but about 7 drillers have quit so far. I told my husband, if the drillers are quitting, it is time to go!

Posted by Anonymous4617 2004-06-13 1:37:58 PM|| 2004-06-13 1:37:58 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 Date :13/06/2004 07:11:20 Ã£
No.: 27

Riyadh, June 13, SPA-- The Police Director of Riyadh Region has denied news reported by some news agencies and media which said that a body of a western nationality was found in a street in Riyadh city.
The Director stated that this news is incorrect. --SPA 1904 Local Time 1604 GMT
http://www.spa.gov.sa/html/sps_enews.htm

Surprise, surprise. The body will probably re-appear in a more convenient location.

Posted by Anonymous4617 2004-06-13 1:42:08 PM|| 2004-06-13 1:42:08 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 A4617 - When you say drillers - you mean drilling companies who provide crews? Schlumberger, etc? If the drillers go, then the mud men, wireline guys, etc. will go too - no work without the drillers.

Posted by .com 2004-06-13 1:48:04 PM|| 2004-06-13 1:48:04 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 .com,

No. They were Aramco employees. There is a mini-exodus going on right now. By next week, we are expecting a full blown one. I have the feeling that the Jihadis will pull a major one soon. They now that expats have very short memories and the have to keep the momentum going.

Posted by Anonymous4617 2004-06-13 1:53:23 PM|| 2004-06-13 1:53:23 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 Monday 14th June, 2004

German reportedly found dead in Saudi
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Big News Network.com Monday 14th June, 2004

Western diplomats in Saudi Arabia said the body of a Westerner discovered by authorities Sunday was believed to be a German citizen.

They said the body was found in Riyadh, near the headquarters of the head of the Saudi National Guard. There was no immediate official confirmation of the discovery.

Saudi police sources said earlier in the day an American working in the country was reported missing Saturday, and that his car was found abandoned.

That man is believed to have been kidnapped by a militant group calling itself the Fallujah Squadron - the Voice of Jihad of al-Qaida in the Arabian Peninsula.

http://feeds.bignewsnetwork.com/?sid=edb280f1b666856a

Would these people ever tell the truth! There must be a body, otherwise a million and one news agencies would not be reporting about it.

Posted by Anonymous4617 2004-06-13 2:07:28 PM|| 2004-06-13 2:07:28 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 A4617 - Gotcha. You're spot-on with the short memories and the jihadis needing to maintain the pressure to succeed - but we both know they will. The money is there, the cannon fodder is there, and the motivation is there. I believe you about the exodus. As soon as the schools let go of their kids, I'll bet many will exit for a month - and then decide what to do. The man, if an Aramcon, will have to come back, go through all of the paperwork crap (which can take quite awhile), pack everything up, etc. Some might just say screw it and leave everything there, not even come back to pack it up. But I believe you're right - August / September will reveal a LOT of available 2-3 BDRM units available in camp. The Saudis on the waiting list will go wild! Lol!

To be honest, I'll bet many people here are having trouble picturing the exact logic that the jihadis are using. How, exactly, will running off the Westerners bring down the Saudis... directly, it doesn't work (see Stratfor article of last week)... But the problem is that we think like Westerners...

I think there are 2 separate goals:
1) Get the infidels out of Muslim Lands
2) Bring down the Royals

And these don't necessarily interconnect / overlap, as most of us would expect from a comprehensive strategy. The attack on the Royals will be pursued separately, yet the Press will never figure that out and keep publishing all kinds of looney speculation about how this attack or that attack achieves the combined goal - when they are actually separate things pursued in parallel.

Sound right to you? Adjust as you see fit!

Posted by .com 2004-06-13 2:14:52 PM|| 2004-06-13 2:14:52 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 The company knows it has a huge problem in their hands. Believe or not, they have relaxed their policies to the point that an employee does not even have to give a 30 days notice to quit. Wives can stay out indefinitely and they are talking about monetary incentives. It is tough trying to cover their asses, legally speaking, while trying to keep the people from leaving.
About the saudis going crazy over the new available houses applies to the sunnis. The shi'as are running very, very scared. Moving into camp is the last thing in their minds right now!
I believe you are right when you say that, getting the infidels out of the Land of the Prophet is one of the goals of the Jihadis. But I do believe that they want to bring down just one brach of the Royals: the one headed by Abdullah.
It will be a long time before The Press (may never will) and most westerners understand what is going on in this country. They will either have to move here for a while or devolve to before the age of enlightment.

Posted by Anonymous4617 2004-06-13 2:41:16 PM|| 2004-06-13 2:41:16 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 A4617 - Any Shi'a already in the camp would be relatively old-timers (back when tech competence was more important than hiring 3 Sunni do-nothings, heh) - are they leaving the camp? I'm sure a Shi'a has no chance on the waiting list, assuming they were allowed on it in the last 5 years!

Re: relaxation of the rules - I'll bet you that anyone taking early exit gets seriously penalized. Aramco has always been pissy and shitty about the retirment plan - especially if you opt for full cash out lump sum. Nasty pricks.

Bringing down Abdullah's faction (remember, he's backed by a good number of the other Princes - beneath the Big Seven) without affecting Nayef / Turki will be a touchy thing. I said it yesterday, I think Abdullah needs to execute a Palace coup and take out Nayef. Turki's off in London, right? But that doesn't mean he's safe. Wotta bunch. Even the good ones are, by any reasonable measure, bad: "The Zionists behind everything!" Sigh.

You're right about the Press, too. Funny thing is, even when they interview people who know something, they spin it and run off into AgendaLand to draw their story conclusion.

Nothing will stop the exodus, now. Watch for a large hit - there's some speculation that the individual killings in Riyadh may be a distraction from big hit elsewhere. probably 50-50 whether it's Khobar or Jeddah (Yanbu).

Take great care! You probably already feel like a prisoner. BTW, did you read any of the on-line book I linked for you? There was some violence inside Aramco Camp during 1967 war with Israel - and described in there.

Posted by .com 2004-06-13 3:10:17 PM|| 2004-06-13 3:10:17 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 A4617, take great care there. Talk to hubby and remind him that a job can be replaced but a life can't be. Y'all come on home now. Swing by Chicago and I'll buy you and family dinner -- nice seafood place right here in my village, and .com can come too (he's buying the wine but he doesn't know it yet -- ssshhhhh!).

Posted by Steve White 2004-06-13 4:06:14 PM|| 2004-06-13 4:06:14 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 ".com can come too (he's buying the wine but he doesn't know it yet -- ssshhhhh!)"

Lol! But is that fair? You see, I don't drink - that was one reason why I tolerated Saudi better than some. I'll pick the food tab!

Posted by .com 2004-06-13 4:26:48 PM|| 2004-06-13 4:26:48 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 Deal! I have no aversion to paying the bar tab, especially if you're not drinking. Now if Fred is there, being an ex-paratrooper 'n all, I'm in trouble.

Posted by Steve White 2004-06-13 10:19:03 PM|| 2004-06-13 10:19:03 PM|| Front Page Top

#15 Thanks .com and Steve. We might take you up that offer. We are going to be in Lansing (on the other side of the lake) pretty soon.

Posted by Anonymous4617 2004-06-14 12:40:28 PM|| 2004-06-14 12:40:28 PM|| Front Page Top

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