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2004-05-12 Home Front: Politix
Torturous apology
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Posted by tipper 2004-05-12 3:57:52 AM|| || Front Page|| [1 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Well, I think that we Americans have self-flagellated enough for everyone over the Iraqi prisoner treatment. Jeeze Louise! We whip ourselves collectively more than Shi'ites! We recognize the problem of prisoner mistreatment and we will correct it. That is what we do, we make bad mistakes and we correct and make it better, painful as it is. Too bad most arab countries do not do that. They just fulminate.

Now back to real evil. Everyone seen the snuffy video of Mr. Berg? It is absolutely sickening. THAT VIDEO should be REQUIRED VIEWING for Kennedy, Fisk, and all the pompous asshats playing dogpile on our military and President Bush. It should be required viewing for the American public, and while you are at it, throw in Spain, France, and the rest of the EU to boot. That is a free preview of what is in store for the civilized world if we try appeasement and lose the WoT or the WoI (Islamofascism).

The only good that will come out of this video record of murder is that it shows the world what we (and I mean the whole world) are up against.

Follow the money where the guys that do this stuff get their resources and it comes back to Saudi money. Follow the Chechian terrorists and you see Saudi money. Check out the Pack Land madrassas and you find Saudi money. We must quit fighting our own money for a start.

Sweet dreams, everyone. I hope that we wake up out of this nightmare soon.
Posted by Alaska Paul in Wales, Alaska 2004-05-12 5:12:38 AM||   2004-05-12 5:12:38 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 The Media is already trying to bury Berg's Decapitation news as they always do with any news that might make muslims and their appeasers look bad.
But there is something that we can ALL do about it and it is very simple: E-mail the websites, listed below, where the video of Nick Burg's decapitation can be watched and ask all of your friends to send those links to everyone they know and so on, and so on....
Americans need to understand the evil they are up against.

Websites showing Berg's decapitation:

Internet Haganah is hosting the video at three of their mirror sites:

Mirror 1: iraq2vediow.zip
Mirror 2: iraq2vediow.zip
Mirror 3: iraq2vediow.zip

http://www.ogrish.com/ogrish-dot-com-ame rican_beheading_in_iraq_small.wmv

http://www.homelandsecurityus.com/

Posted by Anonymous4617 2004-05-12 6:18:05 AM||   2004-05-12 6:18:05 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 kinda puts things in perspective, doesn't it, Teddy K? I mean, it's not like they killed any body by drowning, is it?
Posted by Frank G  2004-05-12 11:43:05 AM||   2004-05-12 11:43:05 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 I've had a lot of trouble posting today. Anyone know what's going on?
Posted by tipper 2004-05-12 11:44:18 AM||   2004-05-12 11:44:18 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 This rates as most rational analysis of the prisoner abuse story I have seen, and I agree that Bush's apology was a serious mistake.

The system is working to rectify the actions of individuals stepping over the line. So what exactly is the problem? Becuase I don't see one. As .com pointed out the Arabs will seethe because its a Tuesday.
Posted by Phil B  2004-05-12 11:46:46 AM||   2004-05-12 11:46:46 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 if you don't comment first, the post goes into the Editor Limbo til they make sure it's not crap/Boris spam
Posted by Frank G  2004-05-12 11:47:15 AM||   2004-05-12 11:47:15 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 One of the regular commenters at SSDB suggested that we round up some military women who can point and snicker at a naked Robert Fisks' endowments, such as they are. I am almost tempted, actually.
Posted by Sgt. Mom 2004-05-12 11:49:46 AM|| [www.sgtstryker.com]  2004-05-12 11:49:46 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 I couldn't get through to RB between about 8pm and midnight EST and it was intermittent for several hours afterwards
Posted by Phil B  2004-05-12 11:52:22 AM||   2004-05-12 11:52:22 AM|| Front Page Top

#9 DOS attack - note the front page sez 2058 peopel are online....Master Fred's working on it
Posted by Frank G  2004-05-12 11:59:26 AM||   2004-05-12 11:59:26 AM|| Front Page Top

#10 Take a look at the five cowards standing behind the doomed Mr Berg.



By thier comments in the senate the names could just as well have been (L to R) Daschle, Byrd, Kennedy, Nelson (FL), Dayton
Posted by BigEd 2004-05-12 12:26:06 PM||   2004-05-12 12:26:06 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 Hmmm...it happened last time I posted. I thought maybe Fred was trying to send me a not so subtle message...like...the internet is busy for you!

Nice to see my posts aren't THAT bad :-)
Posted by B 2004-05-12 12:26:25 PM||   2004-05-12 12:26:25 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 Making a homoerotic pyramid of fetching young Iraqi men naked with their bottoms in the air is not my idea of a good time...

Fetching?
Yeah, I'll bet it ain't, right, Fiskie.
Posted by tu3031 2004-05-12 12:35:25 PM||   2004-05-12 12:35:25 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 Well that settles it. We now have confirmation that Mark Steyn reads Rantburg. He clearly picked up the Tate Gallery/Turner Prize meme from Jen.
Posted by Classical_Liberal 2004-05-12 1:06:41 PM||   2004-05-12 1:06:41 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 C_L : I wouldn't be surprised if Steyn parouses this and other blogs. Remember we are usually sympathetic, and if there was any criticism, he would take it as constructive. Also, We might have a lead on something he would like dig into and expand on. He probably uses all sources.
Posted by BigEd 2004-05-12 1:18:52 PM||   2004-05-12 1:18:52 PM|| Front Page Top

#15 Anyone see the Ajami column in todays WSJ? He wants to know why Bush apologized to King Abdullah, for crying out loud. We owe apologies to IRAQIS, NOT to non-Iraqi arabs - are we accepting the subordination of Iraq to the Arab world, AGAIN? He raises more questions about Brahimi, and applauds Sistani and the Shiite leaders for resisting Brahimi.
Posted by Liberalhawk 2004-05-12 1:56:44 PM||   2004-05-12 1:56:44 PM|| Front Page Top

#16 why wouldn't he read rantburg? It never sleeps, it has insight you can't find anywhere else and it's one of the few interactive blog's that follows the WOT as no other site can.

Mark is a great writer. I could only hope that one day a comment from me would inspire him enough for him to put it forward as an idea of his own.
Go Mark.
Posted by B 2004-05-12 1:59:11 PM||   2004-05-12 1:59:11 PM|| Front Page Top

#17 Speaking of Rantburg (and maybe why tipper had trouble posting - note that i had trouble accessing the site earlier today -) :

"30 rants, 140 comments. 2378 people are online at 14:15"
Is that a record?
Posted by Anonymous4134 2004-05-12 2:42:34 PM||   2004-05-12 2:42:34 PM|| Front Page Top

#18 Mark Steyn does read blogs.I wouldn't be at all surprised if he reads Rantburg.
Posted by Kathy K  2004-05-12 3:28:21 PM|| [site-essential.com/]  2004-05-12 3:28:21 PM|| Front Page Top

#19 What "heroic" fighters for the "Allah," god of War, these horrid little pukes are! (Yawn) Bet they got totally off on it. "Another victory for the dickless wonders of the universe." Even if the Berg was a US soldier, it would be bad enough. But, I mean, how easy is it to nab a civilian from an Iraqi street? Bet it only took one of them.

ALERT: These guys (and all the rest like them) do this stuff because they LOVE to do this stuff. That's it. Plain and simple. It has nothing at all to do with politics or ideologies. It's just gang "turf war" sh-t. If we weren't there, they'd find another excuse, and would fight among themselves. It's been going on for centuries.

I'll keep sayin' it . . .

All Islamic pseudo-men need to die.

Right on, BigEd (#10)! Ha! Too true!

And #1 Alaska Paul: I heard that the Arabs had kind of a "big deal" attitude about Abu G. They were more impressed that President Bush--the most powerful man in the world--would take time to apoligize for the actions of a few miscreant soldiers, and would make it known to the world that the guilty will be punished. NO MORAL GROUND LOST THERE. They thought GW was cool. Me too.
Posted by ex-lib 2004-05-12 4:10:37 PM||   2004-05-12 4:10:37 PM|| Front Page Top

#20 Sgt. Mom: I'm not military, but I used to work for the Army, so I guess I would count for half. Can I come and snicker if I promise not to point? :-p
Posted by Barbara Skolaut  2004-05-12 11:33:48 PM||   2004-05-12 11:33:48 PM|| Front Page Top

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