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2004-04-11 Home Front: WoT

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Posted by Steve White 2004-04-11 12:19:17 AM|| || Front Page|| [11133 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 "The whole argument the government used that we were focusing overseas, that we thought the attack was coming from outside the United States - this memo said an attack could come in the United States"

The arguments of the Democrats against GW have become like those of a shrewish wife. No substance to the nagging...just nag nag nag.

It's not to say that the Dems aren't effective. The Dem's, like shrew wives, can get their friends to sit around and have endless hours of fun berating just how stupid he is......Like, last time he tried to hail a cab, he was ignored because, like I told him , he should have done it from the corner, not the middle of the sidewalk!!! I told him so!! And last time he was in Starbucks...he ordered a "large" instead of a "grande"!!!!

The Dem's have become completely void of their own substance and now are reduced to the divisive politics of nothing more than nag..nag..nag.

Posted by B 2004-04-11 6:16:02 AM|| 2004-04-11 6:16:02 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 This article typifies the kind of slyly dishonest reporting that convinced me the mainstream press is little more than a wholly-owned propaganda outlet for the Democratic Party: some asshole at AP really had to work hard to transmogrify that vague, useless memo into this "Bush Knew About 9/11 In Advance!!" story.

And just exactly what is it that Bush "should" have done in the 36 days that elapsed between the time he saw this potpourri of generalities, rumors and mostly "uncorroborated" miscellaneous intelligence tidbits, and the morning of September 11?

Was Bush supposed to immediately arrest and detain, without charge, all aliens of Middle Eastern origin in the United States at that moment on suspicion they might be plotting terrorist attacks? That's about what it would have taken to nab the 9/11 hijackers before they did the deed-- and under the laws in effect at the time, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN COMPLETELY ILLEGAL FOR HIM TO DO SO. The din of outrage from the American Civil Liberties Union would have been so loud that it would have left every one of us suffering from permanent hearing loss.

Or was Bush supposed to immediately launch an all-out assault on Afghanistan to destroy al Qaeda without even seeking a U.N. resolution? Was he supposed to do it without congressional authorization, which is required by law? That's what he would have had to do; and had he done that, he would have been impeached at once and removed from office before the year was out.

And why, if "patterns of suspicious activity in this country consistent with preparations for hijackings or other types of attacks" were observed by the FBI all the way back since 1998, is this supposed to be Bush's failing, that not enough was done to thwart those plans? He wasn't president in 1998, Bill Clinton was.

But Clinton's a Democrat, so he doesn't even get mentioned in this disingenuous concoction of partisan bullshit.

9/11 happened because for at least the last quarter-century, this ENTIRE COUNTRY refused to acknowledge what the Islamicists themselves had been telling us, again and again: THEY ARE AT WAR WITH US. Again and again they attacked us throughout the 1980's and 1990's; yet we kept dismissing them as a ragtag band of disgruntled kooks.

Whatever oversight kept us from shortstopping the 9/11 attacks, it is the fault of every U.S. president from Carter on; every member of the House and Senate since 1979; and of every last U.S. citizen for not DEMANDING that our government take the problem seriously.

Blame it on George Bush? Screw you, John Kerry.

(sorry for the caps lock; I'm pissed off)

Posted by Dave D. 2004-04-11 8:45:37 AM|| 2004-04-11 8:45:37 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 I believe extreme liberals in certain media venues are taking an active part in trying to lay all the blame for the 9/11 attacks on the Bush Administration. On Thursday on NPR's Fresh Air Terry Gross said "As we all know the 9/11 Commision was formed to find out what the Bush Administration knew prior to the 9/11 attacks." I guess I shouldn't have been surprised by the blatant untruth of this statement considering the complete free pass she gave Dick Clarke. It seems NPR does have a political agenda.

Posted by Deacon Blues 2004-04-11 9:48:56 AM|| 2004-04-11 9:48:56 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 I moved the original memo to Home Front - Politix, which is probably also where this belongs. None of this puffing and blowing actually has anything to do with actually pursuing the war on terror. 50 years from now, this won't even be a footnote in the history books. Assuming they're written in English.

Posted by Fred 2004-04-11 10:52:35 AM|| 2004-04-11 10:52:35 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 Yikes Fred! It's Easter! We'll win, it might take awhile tho.

Posted by Shipman 2004-04-11 11:25:37 AM|| 2004-04-11 11:25:37 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 We almost certainly will win, provided the Democrats' cries of "Iraq is Bush's Vietnam!!" don't become self-fullfilling prophecies.

Frankly, I'm not a thousandth as alarmed by ANYTHING happening in Iraq right now as I am about the utter treachery of the Democrats: they seem perfectly willing to engineer a national disaster in the form of the complete failure of the war against Islamofascism, if only it will help them win this next presidential election.

I guaran-damn-tee you: not a single one of the Democrats mouthing off these days--NOT EVEN ONE--actually believes so much as a single word of the doom-and-gloom crap they've been spewing out (well, maybe poor little Dennis Kucinich believes it, along with Ralph Nader). Every last one of them knows precisely WHY we're in Iraq, knows that we're succeeding, and knows that Iraq is the key to cutting through the Gordian Knot of Islamic lunacy. Every last one of them.

The Democrats made a cynical, calculated choice, back during the primaries, to take a position opposed to everything we are doing in Iraq. They did it because they saw the potential in that huge crowd of foamers and droolers that Howard Dean whipped up into a lather, and with the sole exception of Joe Lieberman, none of them had the integrity to resist tapping into the electoral energy of that madness.

And now they're riding the tiger and can't get off.

Some have said that if Kerry wins, he'll actually continue virtually all of Bush's policies in the War On Terror; that having him as President won't be that bad, after all.

Bullshit.

If Kerry wins, he will be under relentless pressure from the Left to pull out of Iraq and suspend nearly everything we've been doing to prevent further terrorist attacks, and focus instead on kissing Kofi Annan's and Jacques Chirac's asses. And he will NOT be able to resist that pressure, because the tiger isn't going to turn into a pussycat.

"50 years from now, this won't even be a footnote in the history books."

It will be a helluva lot more than a footnote in the history books if the Left wins this round: it'll be an entire chapter. In their view, this August 6th memo is a bigger scandal than Watergate.

Posted by Dave D. 2004-04-11 12:37:52 PM|| 2004-04-11 12:37:52 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 Damn, your harshing my mellow Dave D.

Agreed on many points. If as you say a Kerry term plays out with a quick withdrawl from Iraq, the happy times will last one election cycle, then three attacks and.... for the Muslims... the deluge.

Posted by Shipman 2004-04-11 1:14:34 PM|| 2004-04-11 1:14:34 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 Yeah, that's the way I see it, too: giving up on Iraq will guarantee more terrorist attacks, since the jihadis will inevitably view it as Mogadishu writ large. And more terrorist attacks will leave any American president--Democrat or Republican--with no way out: he can't countenance toleration of the attacks as "just the cost of doing business with the rest of the world," nor could he consider a reprise of Bush's "Arab Democracy Experiment," and the only option left to him would be all-out, total war against the Arab--and possibly the entire Islamic--world.

But at least that war would only take about twenty minutes.

Posted by Dave D. 2004-04-11 1:48:09 PM|| 2004-04-11 1:48:09 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 While I think a Kerry win would cost countless American lives and be a huge set back in the WOT - I think that it would cause such a major backlash in the subsequent election and that it will become a dark day for the Islamofacists and for the world in general.

Right now we are restrained. Allow Kerry to diddle and Americans to die, and no amount of propaganda will contain the wrath.

Posted by B 2004-04-11 4:13:32 PM|| 2004-04-11 4:13:32 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 I'll even go further ...I predict that if Kerry wins...and AQ strikes our shores...Kerry's fate will be like that of Davis.

I can see the possibility of a Kerry win. But he will be less popular than Nixon or Davis and my guess...make that prediction... is that he will suffer the same fate. Clinton just barely escaped it. The moment the left rids itself of the GW Satan, Kerry is a twit who will be hated by all.

Posted by B 2004-04-11 4:17:56 PM|| 2004-04-11 4:17:56 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 Have to agree with fmr governer J. Thompson. There's no gun there smoking or otherwise. People should realize that had any of the hijackers been arrested prior to 9/11 the ACLU would have had them released the next day. Ashcroft's head would have been called for. Meanwhile, at the Detroit ranch new passports would have been issued and the game resumed. Same result. I don't think 9/11 could have been prevented simply because of the self applied handcuffs. Chine

Posted by Chiner 2004-04-11 4:58:48 PM|| 2004-04-11 4:58:48 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 The moment the left rids itself of the GW Satan, Kerry is a twit who will be hated by all.

Yep, what I was trying to think.

Posted by Shipman 2004-04-11 5:37:23 PM|| 2004-04-11 5:37:23 PM|| Front Page Top

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