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2004-04-08 Europe

Cypriot, Greek Leaders Against U.N. Plan

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Posted by Anonymous2U 2004-04-08 12:46:34 AM|| || Front Page|| [1 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Butter or plain or cajun?

Posted by Shipman 2004-04-08 8:51:32 AM|| 2004-04-08 8:51:32 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 Your title is wrong. "Cypriot, Greek leaders against UN plans" implies that both the leaders of Cyprus' and Greece oppose it. That's wrong. The Greek prime minister hasn't taken a position yet (because he's a wimp IMO) and the chief opposition in Greece has supported it.

If you'd removed the word "Greek" and left the title "Cypriot leaders oppose the plan", you'd have been accurate since both the Greek-cypriot president and the Turkish-cypriot one have opposed it.

Posted by Aris Katsaris 2004-04-08 9:30:06 AM|| 2004-04-08 9:30:06 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 The Cypriots do indeed rejct the plan - thus far. Your reasons though, are erroneous. The actual objections are two, one soft and one hard,although they are rarely stated:
- the soft one: the Greek-Cypriots (82% of population and currently responsible for ~90% of GDP) reject the plan's mandate of 50-50 power sharing with the Turkish-Cypriots (18%, ~10% of GDP) and
-the hard one: they reject the plan's allowing third parties (Greece, Turkey and UK) a constitutionally guaranteed right of intereference (including militarily) in their internal affairs.
The third parties naturally refuse to accept that the Cypriots can tell them to butt out and they have designed a plan that secures them on that front. It's that simple.

Posted by Anonymous4089 2004-04-08 10:19:31 AM|| 2004-04-08 10:19:31 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 ARis - I just copied what the AP(?) (why won't it link) wrote, Aris. I got tsked because headlines were getting "too creative."

Don't blame the messenger.

Unless a stealth edit was performed......

Posted by Anonymous2U 2004-04-08 10:47:40 AM|| 2004-04-08 10:47:40 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 No stealth editors on Rantburg! Why, we associate editors are noisy as all hell, wear buckets on our feet, we do.

Posted by Steve White 2004-04-08 11:13:48 AM|| 2004-04-08 11:13:48 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 we associate editors are noisy as all hell

Yaaarr! We be Associate Editors!

Nah, it just doesn't sound right. How about Acolyte Of Fred?

Posted by Steve 2004-04-08 11:37:07 AM|| 2004-04-08 11:37:07 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 Here's a link to the plan, http://www.cyprus-un-plan.org/

I think that Cyprus, if it's truly looking for unity, should agree to the plan. It's the best offer it's gotten in the last 30 years, and it's not likely to get any better offer any time soon.
The 50-50 power share isn't an exact truth: The unified state will have a bicameral parliament, one chamber of which will have proportional representation, even though the other one will be evenly divided.

The Presidency will be shared on a 50-50 basis, yeah, and that's a true negative: but once again I don't see any better offer being made. The presidential council will be divided 2 to 1 in favour of the Greek cypriots.

As for the "intervention", it is already taking place -- and I think it may not be that difficult to later make an amendment to the constitution that removes this in its entirety.

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If not this plan, then I'll be going with Stefanos Manos' position as the only remaining option: Division. The Greek Cypriots accepting all the territorial and property concessions and in return giving recognition and allowing EU membership to the Turkish Cypriot state.

The division plan doesn't actually *appeal* to me one bit, and there's no chance in hell of it actually being accepted by the Greek Cypriots, but if the Annan plan is rejected, then I really don't see any better option existing.

Ugly new flag though. Couldn't they have atleast included the olive branches to break the monotony?

Posted by Aris Katsaris 2004-04-08 12:13:36 PM|| 2004-04-08 12:13:36 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 I've three, count 'em (3) kinds o popcorn out and Murat doesn't show. I say fooey.

Posted by O Redenbocker 2004-04-08 3:23:51 PM|| 2004-04-08 3:23:51 PM|| Front Page Top

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